Born in June - waiting on the last few!

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new thread, sorry for the unimaginative title!

afternoon lovely yummy mummies
what a busy chatty lot you've been today!
HELLO to andiem and nedmum (met you briefly on your other thread) and Hello to loonylovegod!!!! (can i still call you Holly?)
Bumper nightmare that your feeding is so sore and generally getting you down - remember me a couple of weeks ago??? i was in AGONY with EVERY feed and crying at even the thought of it - well i'm now loving it and have NO pain - yippee, so it does get better. i totally understand how you and Tallulah feel about not giving up though, personally i felt exactly as you described about stopping and that was my determination to keep going.
Tallulah - sounds like you are turning a corner so yippee for that!
Also Bumper, re you mum, just trust in your own feelings and remember you are doing a FAB job in your new role as mummy x
TA - grab sleep whenever you can, put some earplugs in if necessary!! x
well i've had my hair cut and got a nifty wee fringe - i look 18 again!!! (OK not 18, but maybe 28? )

also Bumper - 1st thing in the morning is a good time to express. Alternatively, try to express a little (ie 1/2 oz) from resting boob at each feed to just build up gradual supply of milk so not to be disapointed when you can only get a small amount out IYSWIM?
what type of pump do you have?
breast milk can be stored safely in the fridge for 7, yes 7, days!!! so you can just keep topping it up and freeze whatever is left at the end of every week.

thanks derlor, any tips or is it just a case of keep practising till it feels right?

glad you managed to get out for a hair cut, bet you look fab

Ahhh, dh is home. all is right with the world...

Whew, just caught up. Well done Tallulah on the bf, know you were having a hard time and it's good to hear your LO is finally putting on weight. It should all get easier in a few weeks, that goes for you too Bumper. I'm doing ok, but Baby Sputnik decided to do a marathon nork fest all weekend, think it was the 3 week growth spurt, just when we'd decided to take the plunge and potty train DD, so not an easy couple of days. Had no success with the potty training either so really frustrating, then yesterday packed her off to nursery and they got some results, am awaiting her return to see if today she will crack it at home too.

welcome Nedmum and Andiem, god I love Mumsnet, you think you are having a hard time with a dying frog and someone turns up who's had 3
Nedmum, you will look back on it and laugh one day. Anyway, stick around and we can all go mad together.

really? 7 days? i have an avent isis, just a hand one, as only really intended to express one feed a day, if that. it's great having you lot around! look forward to the others getting on here so we can close down antenatal!

Bumper - am playing on the computer as an attempt to distract myself from the windy miserable baby in my arms who I've tried everything to help and saw your comment on the BF thread about stripping off in m and s.It made me laugh out loud so thankyou!

Serious latching issues this end too - some days I think we've cracked it then it seems as if from one feed to the next he's forgotten how to do it.

I've also decided I'm definitely no earth mother type - I'm doing it because I know it's a good start for him especially being prem but I don''t find it a beautiful bonding experience and at night when I'm exhausted I really resent it...

And now I've written that for all to see I'm feeling serious maternal guilt.

Can I ask a dumb question about EBM? Presumably for use you need to warm it up. If the baby doesn't drink it can you reuse or do you have to chuck it?

hi sputnik - sling finally came yesterday and dd loves it! shes cocooned in it now. it looks pretty cool too. hop you are getting on well with yours. and good luck with the toilet training!

Bumper I know exactly where you are comng from. When I had 1st DS felt exactly like you where was my life what had happened to me this organised groomed career woman BUT it does get better as everyone says. The bf gets easier. This time around I am much more chilled but the bf is still as hard I have sore nips and throbbing norks so we all know where you are coming from. I thnk we have high expectations of ourselves and we need to cut ourselves a bit of slack. Try to do something nice for yourself. I am keeping going with regular lunches and little bits of retail therapy!

Daisy I'm interested that you had the throbbing norks too what causes it do you know? I think LO is a bit of a clamper! Did yours just go away? his latch is good so not worried about that

yup, breast milk = 7 days, NOT formula milk though 24 hours for that.
try 1st thing when you have extra milk then, and if struggling you might want to invest in an electric pump.
pmsl at 3 frogs sputnik

Hi weddingcake, I cope with nightfeeds by plonking baby down next to me, getting him latched and going back to sleep . Feel much less sleep deprived than with DD who I dutifully stayed awake for and returned to cot until she was 6 months or so.

wedding cake glad i can make you smile! see, i can't have pnd if I can make jokes (bloody mother, thinking she knows best...).

i know what you mean about the latch, sometimes is fine, sometimes i know it's not right and sometimes I think it's right but it still hurts and I can't see what I am doing wrong (sometimes I literally can't see through the tears!)

sputnik, no, you can't re-heat it. just heat sparingly instead and heat more if needed for less wastage.

The great thing about the sling is you can type with both hands
Had problems at first eating then discovered it's ok if you cover baby with a piece of kitchen roll. Haven't needed it much though as Baby Sputnik still pretty chilled (cue gods of mumsnet smugness sending me 6 months of incurable colic...)

The great thing about the sling is you can type with both hands
Had problems at first eating then discovered it's ok if you cover baby with a piece of kitchen roll. Haven't needed it much though as Baby Sputnik still pretty chilled (cue gods of mumsnet smugness sending me 6 months of incurable colic...)

wedding cake, I know what you mean about feeling resentful, then guilty coz you don't want to hold them coz they'll want to feed...

Bumper maybe your mum is being really cunning and using reverse psychology on you?
Seriously, ignore her.

sputnik do you balance yout laptop on LO's head????
Bumper are there any positions which are less painful for you when BF?
Andiem throbbing pain can be mastitis, do you have any other symptoms? ie redness on your boob/s, feeling flu like, high temp, nausea?

hey weddingcake NO guilt on here allowed, this is a guilt free, say whatever you need to zone!!

weddingcake...no maternal guilt allowed here

We're all dojng a fab job...just keep repeating that mantra!

andiem....i had horrible problems with throbbing norks with DS and its waht caused me to give up after 5.5 weeks. I found some info on vasospasm on Kellymom and it seemed to expalin what had been happening to a T. It was starting again with DD so I adjusted my latch a bit and it's gone.

Kellymom is a great website for BF troubleshooting...heartily recommend it.

Sputnik...dh heated up the ebm in a jug of water, but she took some at room temp later on. It's good practice to get them used to taking room temp bottles so if you can't heat it up it isn't the end of the world!

Talking of maternal guilt...DD is screaming in the kitchen....tried to fob her off with a dummy to get tea over with, but she's having none of it...she's been guzzling all day!

LOL Derlor
This was at the desk. I'm currently on sofa though, laptop sat next to me, baby on chest, slingless so 1 handed, too content to move him and go and load the dishwasher or something "useful".

BTW congratulations Ria on DH's job, fingers crossed for you that it works out

the even better thing about the sling is you can't reach the sink to do the washing up

derlor, we mainly feed in the same position, and sometimes it hurts, sometimes it doesn't. tiktok on the bfing thread suggested trying the breast crawl, going skin to skin then putting her on my chest and letting her find her way. then hopefully she will learn how to latch on properly. i think sometimes I am being impatient and trying to put her on before she is ready.

can I just say again how great you guys all are [creep emoticon]

I'd better go and spend some time with dh now, but will catch up later if this LO lets me!

Hi Daisy, I really must dust down the breast pump and give it a go. was very tied down with DD as she wouldn't accept a bottle at all, probably I left it too late.
glad you found Kellymom, we'll make you a militant extended breastfeeder yet

Hi Derlor I'm sure it's not mastitis I think it is the vasospasm that Daisy was talking about as my nipple is white after a feed not all but just some. He seems to clamp down a lot to manage the let down whereas my other ds just let all the milk run out of his mouth. Ho hum will just have to persevere am hoping he will grow out of it!

LOL sputnik....not sure about extended BF, but this time around it's been so much more enjoyable so i'll give it a fair go i think!

I've just ha a temper tantrum from.....my 5 week old DD she thought she was getting more, but i was just moving her and got an indignant shout from her....little madam

don't know how i'm going to get ds to bed at this rate!