creche of may 2007!

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welcome to our second post natal thread!

ITS ive just had a look at your pics, Ted is gorgeous (both your boys are)

He really is..will have to reapply myself and get some of Mae on..

Its true re the jaffa caks being low fat..also yoghurt coated raisins arent supposed to be bad and you can almost kid yourself that they are white chocolate...

Good luck with your solo night Abby..ive only had two days on m own with both kids due to illness either Lilys or mine..next week its just me though assuming am better, eeek!

Its ruddy freezing here..have put Mae in her gro bag for the first time as she kicks her blankets off and its just too nippy tonight..she looks very cute..cant believe it was once Lilys though, or that she was ever so small..they grow so fast, sob...

Your solo night ITS..duh!

Im not a fan of those pants either April..but apparently the corset is making a big comeback and I can see how that might work..desperate times=desperate measures chez Scoot...If im not thin by the V festival Im going to get one..I will cut quite the dash in my corset and wellies!

ITS - cute photos and you look so good

Scoot, OMG we have just discovered those yoghurt coated raisins and me and the dc are already addicted I've got the heating on by the way..

Tam, forgot to say how wonderfully adventurous you are.

anyone with breastfeeding milk issues... this is interesting

Thanks Befsnork - really interesting thread.

Cam - arghh that your DH is going away for 2 weeks. You going to be on your own for that whole time or do you have family nearby? Not sure about adventurous but I'll take the compliment I've not done this before (had kids I mean) so I'll just do whatever I think I can do until it doesn't feel right or I get too knackered...Don't see endless shopping in Boston being hard work. Let me know about the crocs

Hi everyone. I'm sorry if I've missed birth announcents and haven't been around, but life has been crazy. Let me see. Cruz is still my dream baby, Ds1 is funnier every day.

My mom moved so I've spent the past few weeks packing her house and helping her clean. I miss her already. We put our house up for sale because I can't stand not having a yard.

I broke my toe so I'm hobbling around with one kid attached to my boob, while chasing the other around the furniture.

I've missed everyone and will try to be a better poster, but until I get naptimes organized I haven't had time to fold laundry let alone get online.

Thanks guys, I will see what the GP says re checking me when G has his six week check which is not until 9 July as they base it on when he should have been born. Need a smear test anyway as was overdue just before I found out I was pregnant.

AM cheers for exercise tips if I get them before you will let you know, I will be glad to know what I can/can't do. Sorry to hear about your brother and thanks for the suggestions.

Hi LG&T hope you're okay now dh not around (can't cope with 2 so much respect). Just when you are about to sign for your car don't forget to say "is that your absolute best offer?" also don't forget they can often not do much re adjusting the finances but throw in things such as mats/extra months tax/full tank of fuel etc. The end of the month is always good as they have targets to meet and if not met may offer you a good deal.

Befnal exercise what is that? I thought that was getting out of bed each day [quizzical emoticon]

LW you have to do what is best for you, don't worry about the past few weeks though, C will have had all she needs and it is reall good stuff she has been getting. The one piece of useful advice the local bf support worker said to me is "your baby will love you no matter how you feed her/him"

Lupins, G had his first jabs without seeing doc? Now hoping this was okay as it does usually coincide with first GP check or is just after.

I am back in my size 8s only problem is the other half is in size 10s so in total a combined 18 . dh told me not get weighed but I did and wished I hadn't

dd got a nasty cough at the mo and was up a few times last night, unfortunately not in sync with G so very unsettled last night

Don't you just love that snuggling up in bed together and breathing in that baby smell.

Cheers Scoot I live in Worksop but dh works in Sheffield and dds nursery is there also, it is shut tomorrow due to alternating power cuts in order that power is shared out. Worksop town centre is flooded and many roads around here are closed. Our estate is flooded but we are just up a small incline so hopefully out of reach. Glad your mum got rescued.

AM our washing machine has been broken so my washing pile is huge but luckily no ironing. YET

ITS he is so cute love the title of the lippy pic.

Sorry jaffa cakes not really my bag but the cherry flavour filling with white chocolate topping are up there. Yummy. Obviously will not turn one down as do not wish to appear rude. .

Take care, ooh it is nice to be back.

Morning all

Thanx Charley for the car advice. I will tell you all the sorry tale of yesterday later, school rum now and Beau creating.

Hope you are all ok and it is lovely to hear from you MKG!!!

Talk later xxx

oh balls have jusy stupidly offered to have NCT lot round this arvo only problem is have done no housework and flat is like a bombsite.Poor Archie is going to have to amuse himself so I can run around like a mad thing with the hoover.

Hello by the way hope ev1 is doing well.

JW - they won't care - i'm sure they are all in the same boat (unless they have maids etc lol)

we meet in a the same cafe at the same time every week - makes it nice and easy

BEFNAL NEWS FLASH * they now have a Benugos at the museum of childhood. now i am majorly anti starbucks yes i know they let you bf there but there coffee makes me ill don't know whether its because its cheap robusta beans or because they make them too strong for my sickly constitution but... LOVE BENUGOS!! they do the best cheese and jalapeno turkey bagel. plus it means that befnal is finally climbing up the ranks

AND L has just slept long enough for me to wash my hair and pump some milk. result.

where was I? oh yes, off to lunch . have a lovely day all.

xx

Morning all

Had a bit of a traumatic morning. Lexie is a beautiful little chicken but I am ready to throttle her father.

He just seems to want to carry on as normal, but with a baby, which is impossible. Lexie does cry quite a lot, which means that by the end of the day, I'm ready to hand her over to someone else for a break. Dh on the other hand, wants to come home from work and watch The Bill.

This morning he wanted me to take him to the station which is 45 mins away at 7am, with Lexie in the car. As I was less than enthusiastic about this prospect, he had a big hissy fit and said, no matter what happens, I'll always love Alexa. What is that supposed to mean. Dick.

He seems to think that she sleeps all day and I waltz around having coffee with people. Which I do do, and she does sleep a bit in the afternoon, however she makes up for that by screaming all morning.

I don't like handing her over to him as it totally depends on his mood and patience level as to how he is with her.

As a couple, we were both very free and enjoyed time alone as well as together, and very much did our own thing. I guess it takes a lot to adjust to life as mum and dad. Every time I try to talk to him about it he accuses me of criticising him and says I don't trust him with her.

Its a mare.

Hi MKG, glad cis still being an angel, sorry about your toe.

CM, you sound really well and it's lovely to have you back.

Bef, Very interesting thread. To be honest I haven't noticed a difference in my milk even when I drink bucket loads. I am very bad at consuming fluid. 2 cups of tea and a glass of squash with dinner is my usual daily intake. I have been trying hard to drink lots.

Pink, I'm so sorry your dh is being a mare. It is such an upheaval on life, I remember it well when I had ds. It's about give and take from now on. He may be feeling a little jealous of Lexie, he will have had your whole attention before L came along and now he has to share you. Try to give him sometime with you, perhaps make the effort for a snuggle in the evenings if L is asleep

about him expecting a lift to the station though, that is not on and that is where the give and take MUST come in.

Thanks Mrs JB - I have prob been a little distant and preoccupied since she was born.

I would add, in case anyone thinks me not wanting to take him to the station was unreasonable, was that the reason he wanted a lift is so that he can go for a drink after work.

Morning all, very interesting Befnal about the bf thread, now it means I don't have an excuse to eat bucketloads if it doesn't make my milk more plentiful As for your benugos, keep them to yourself if you please, none of that fancy high-city living chi-chi coffee bars round here, you'd be lucky if you got a nescafe instant..

DS1 is going on a playdate after school so I have the luxury of being alone with J until 3.30, now I have just got to convince him to sleep from now until then

Pink, sorry to hear about your dh, I remember when dd arrived my dh went a bit weird for a while. Many men don't know what to do with babies and don't really enjoy them and this makes them pretty scared of the whole thing, I found it difficult to let go of my dd and let him try to get on with it all, his way, which, needless to say, was different to mine. When he did look after dd he got more confident, and enjoyed her and the situation more. We also we ended up deciding that it was his job to give her a bath and he still baths all 3 dc to this day I agree with MrsJB that he is probably feeling like all your attention is on the baby, are there a couple of hours every evening when she sleeps and you two can be together? We find doing bath and bedtime at the same time everyday (for all the dc!) gives us a couple of hours alone before J wakes up again.

We actually have sun here today, hope it is not raining again too much for others and noone is flooded.

Mission acomplished.

Befnal thet thread was really interesting. I was sure that dependant on what you ate or drunk would make a difference to the quality of milk produced.

PJ my sympathy's go to you not really sure where my DP's head is at sometimes, think they just dont get how time consumming the lo's are.

SHOWOFHANDS

I shall be finding myself without internet next week for a while so if you want to attempt a mumsnet Cambridge takeover e mail me on Indith _ underfire @ yahoo dot co dot uk and I'll give you my mobile number

Hope you are ok

Now then, any of you lovelly May ladies want to swap a cute little tiny baby for a spotty, snotty hulking great 5.5 month old? no? Oh well

I like the idea that jaffa cakes are (almost) good for you....not so keen on the idea that breastfeeding does not equal being allowed to eat lots....
Samuel beginning to sleep better at night. Was a little worried because he had not pooed for DAYS but had the smelliest wind (my poor children being brought up as veges - they will probably be known as fartypants at school) ANYWAY he finally pooed at 4am this morning which was relief a) because DH could help with the fallout (he was, of course, thrilled) and b) because I was convince that he was going to explode whilst we were out somewhere with dreadful consequences (Samuel not DH)
BTW does anyone else still have a really obvious linea negra - my tummy looks as if I have painted a thick brown line down it. I am sure this didn't happen first time round - how long will it last? Mind you, to be honest, can't see myself wearing a bikini much this summer lol.
I agree with whoever suggested that DH should be in charge of bathtime - we also do that and it does mean that they have a daily time that is theirs with the children which is particularly good if you are breastfeeding iyswim

At milk supply not being affected by the amout you eat and drink!!! Mine is. Beau much happier and settled if i have eaten well.

Pink sorry your dh is being a donkey. It will take him time to get used to the shift in priorities he now must face. Letting him be more hands on with Lexie will show him that sooner, just leave the room when you hand her over. He wont hurt her and he will be more relaxed and confident if you are not watching him. Go to bed or watch a movie and let him deal with it for a while, very hard i know but worth it

We have sun too, yay!!!

Mrsjb glad to see you back, how is your coccyx?

Bugger school run in a minute, where has the day gone?

Yesterday may haunt me forever, let me share. I went to the garage to see the car i liked from the day before, cue haggling with the salesman as i desperately tried to off load my dying Seat Alhambra. It would have cost over £500 to get it through the MOT alone and that was due to be done next weds. So managed to get the salesman up by £500 on his offer on the Seat. Left garage, drove straight to Sainsburys as was on route to school, fed Beau and Hugo and dashed to school for DD induction talk\tour of the junior school. Walked in to full hall, talk already going on. No one offered me a seat, stood at the back with Hugo being a sod and running off. Beau started yelling, fed him, he pooed through all clothes, Hugo pooed. Waited for talk to end and changed boys, on the girls toilet floor!!! Did tour, Hugo still awful.

Picked up rest of children and had to wait till 4pm for twins merit evening. Waited in reception, Hugo still awful. Headteacher came out to talk to me about Beau, Hugo broke shiny new leaflet stand....headteacher stormed off!!!!! Not a word from her despite my sorries

Left school only to return for 5pm to collect boys. Got home and had to make tea, Beau yelling. Put them all to bed, tried to get car insurance. Beau yelling.....finally sat down at 9pm. Food, drink, Ha!!!

At one point i was texting DH for a gun.

Quiter today, just pick up car and drive very fast away from garage Then in to Sainsburys for the shopping. Now it's the bloody school run again! Am off to a friends with them all for tea tonight, so no cooking for me, yipeeeeeee

Sorry long rant, just a very bad day yesterday. Am off to eat something i need it for my milk

The gun was for me to myself with BTW not for the children

It aint gonna stop me from eating cake, J obviously is benefiting

Big it up for Jaffa Cakes

LG&T - poor you, sounds all too familiar to me, especially the enormous-poo-through-the-clothes-onto-your-lap-in-assembly situation while ds1 does a runner - sending you calm vibes for today

My cousin lives in Worksop Charlie..ere when im home next at the end of July do you fancy a meet up?

I had a similar thing with DH after Lily Pinkj..When he went back to work it was as if nothing had really changed for him..therefore he didnt get why I was desperate for a break when he got back and/or knackered and feeling out of sorts, because of all the newness of having a baby..he would then arrange to do things after work and be v. surprised when it didnt go down very well with me..we had some awful fights..he only really saw the light when I was ill and he had to look after the baby himself for 5 straight days..it was only then he relised it isnt all coffee afternoons and This Morning...your DH will come round in time I hope..Can you leave him with L for an afternoon and get out and do something just for you?Might give him some perspective and also would give you a bit of space..v. important I think..

Benugos you say?

DH is working from home today..he has just returned from Tesco to where I had dispatchd him with a list which included 3 items..yoghurt raisins, nappies, salad...he managed to forget the salad...I just dont understand it..how can you have a list of 3 things and forget one?

How did you break your toe MKG?And how on earth are you managing with said tow plus kids?

Tam did you say you were going to Boston?WITH Mathilda?God im rubbish..even going to the shop is a major expedition for me!

Am watching Wimbledon...What the devil is that Williams girl wearing?Im surprised its allowed!Im only jealous of course..my tennis outfit days are over..trackie bottoms and hoodies for me from now on..in fact am sporting a rather lovely VELOUR trouser today!

oh largegandt..im so sorry but you have really made me giggle...im sure it was ruddy awful at the time but you do have to love Hugs I think..oh gawd bless you, I dont honestly know how you do it...oh the thought of the leaflet stand after all that..

But you got your new car though?How is she running?

Humph..is there any evidence that eating cake affects the success of formula feeding in any way?No?Thought not...

Befnal - was an interesting thread. On the downside I linked to Kelly.com and read all the stuff on alcohol and Bf-ing. Am now feeling depressed!! Blissful ignorance was so much better.

On a more positive note I think we're turning a corner on nipple pain. It's now only murderously painful 50% of feeds, so just have to work on it a bit more!

Pink - sorry your DH is being a git. Sounds like he needs reminding you're in this together.

Hope everyone else is having a good day.

I don't know exactly which of you lot I should be addressing this to, but I gather that a few of you were involved:

NB: I will not get through this without crying. It's the hormones I tell ya.

Thank you. I can't express how sincerely I mean that. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I am so indebted to all of you just for listening to me and keeping me sane these last 10 months or so. I don't deserve what you all so kindly did for me and I haven't the words to tell you what it means to me that you did. I haven't stopped sobbing at how amazingly lovely you all are and what you did is the kindest, most generous and helpful thing I could imagine. Please send me all of your addresses, I want to at least try and repay the kindness. Your intervention has come at the best time. DH is working now for 9 days straight, 17hrs a day as he needs to sort things out for his leaving. HV is trying to accuse me of having PTSD and I don't agree (she's lovely btw). Have started having flashbacks and nightmares about the birth and tried to explain that I just felt a bit cheated and like I'd let M down (I know that I haven't I just feel like I have iyswim) and she started fussing. Admittedly, I'm a bit wobbly at the moment but I'm not suffering from PTSD!

M is still feeding constantly during the day and 2hrly overnight so sleep's a rare thing chez SOH. Bit worried about DH as well. He's been a bit poorly, went to the GP and they're testing his blood calcium level, no idea why. Anybody have any clue what they think is wrong?

Anyway, you naughty lot will be pleased to know that you completely baffled a delivery man. You sent him into the wilds of Norfolk and he appeared on my doorstep at 4pm, bedraggled, wet and sobbing. He'd been very lost for a long time. Clearly nobody told him it was left at the duck pond and right at the herd of cows. Poor chap won't return to Norfolk in a hurry.

Oh she's crying for food again, only 15 minutes since the last feed...

I'll catch up properly one day.