March 2007 babies - a bottle of house white please

[kiwibella]

you choose - for you or for your bubba

I can't believe the May thread is so excited that their babies are arriving. That time in our lives seems like soooooo long ago .

Mossie - I agree with Kitty your DH & MIL need to butt out
Have either of them breastfed before?
Even if your MIL has you are fully entitled to ignore her every word
You are the mummy and you know your baby best

DD is 8 weeks now. Feeding is improving here but she is still cluster feeding in the evening which is a bit trying.
I found feeding DS very tough the first time as I had noone on hand who had bf to ask but I did have mumsnet!

Morning All

Mossie I agree with the others, think you need to put your foot down and feed in your own comfrot zone so to sepak, without the spectators, but I admire you're willingness to stick it out! I'd have been down the asda for a tub of SMA by now!

Diva - thanks fro the advice, tho... I did call my HV this morning, and she said it could take 3 weeks to work its way out, but if i wanted, tho not necessary, I could get some lactose free formula. If the number of nappies has not rediced by next thursday, to go to GP.

Oh the cluster feeds in the evening! They are a drain aren't they! but at the moment it means LO is sleeping from his last feed at 11ish to 7! I like that!

mossie-its normal to obsess about feeding babies full stop,i can tell you that as a formula feeder!the first 6 weeks it was 'i dont think she likes these teats' 'shes sleeping too much' 'i think shes got wind' 'omg shes got a cold and cant feed properly' blah blah blah...even now i still write down every feed she has so i can keep an eye on how much shes taking(and panic if she doesnt have the text-book right amount!).i also agree with kitty-my ex mil and xp kept 'watching' me feed ds1 and it really put me off,i hate people watching me do anything and making comments,id rather make mistakes in private.

off to the docs now,will catch up with everone else later.

I am so of the school of thought that, if everything is ok with baby, you should let them sleep!! I'm lucky that Kate is becoming fairly predictable with her sleeping but if she is going longer or earlier than usual (and I can) - I let her but check on her regularly. MissE is home today and has woken her up... that happens when you are standing over her bed tickling her feet . Now we have a screaming baby who MissE doesn't want to deal with 'cause she's had her fun.

yay, you found the wedding ring Shanks!!

Totally agree with Amie, Mossy - you have done an incredible job perservering with bf Bertie.

forgot to ask... which cream for nappy rash do you guys prefer?

Amie I find Sudocreme is fine for mild rash. If it's worse then metanium is the b*llocks

Amie, Bepanthem(sp?) cream is great.
Mossy I was thinking what Kitty said
My parents are really helpfull and keen to be involved with my babies, esp, Dad. But in the past Dad would be pacing up and down with screaming baby going 'there there' then mum would be doing her thing to try and get wind up, when all the baby needed was fed or peace to sleep and I had to fight with them to get my baby off them
This time everything has been so much easier.
Now I think I was often having bad latch with them and only feeding foremilk.
With Hasan, he hardly ever cries, he's one of those easy babies (yippee) but anytime he cries, with him it's needing to sleep.
Agree with everyone feeding your baby is a hugely strong instinct. When Baby is hungry I feel desperation to feed him

have mailed DH with your suggestions! lets see what he comes back with!

have uploaded a pic pf Joseph at 3 months to my profile.

I'm a bit like Diva, I'm a bit is he hungry? he must be full... it has consumed my life but now he's getting into a routine of sorts I am finding it easier!

What a cutie Amie he's really sweet isn't he?

Shanks - where did you find your ring in the end?

I use vaseline on Monti's bum its fab and cheap and not as icky as some of those white creams

Shrinky IKWYM about feeling desperate to feed. My whole life revolves around feeding cycles atm and I get quite agitated with other people when its Monti's feeding time. I tell Dh and the kids to go away so i can feed him in peace.

I wish I had lots of relatives around who kept picking him up though...

BTW caught DD sitting astride Monti last week, pinning him to his changing mat, muttering something about "pecking order"

Amie - very cute pictures of your little man !

Have awoken with very bad conjunctivitis in my left eye. It is sore, sticky and weepy Am thinking about bathing it in breast milk, but can't really bring myself to do it. Did anyone see "Tribe" last night ?

I haven't used any cream on Amos bot. I use cotton wool which has been soaked in camomile tea (which I keep in a tupperware box) It is cheap and I swear it stops nappy rash as he hasn't had any redness at all.

He is 8 weeks today and a real giant - he is over 14lbs

Mossie - I agree - tell everyone to butt out re. the feeding - you are doing a stirling job !

Just steeling myself to ring my brother....

"But in the past Dad would be pacing up and down with screaming baby going 'there there' then mum would be doing her thing to try and get wind up, when all the baby needed was fed or peace to sleep and I had to fight with them to get my baby off them"

Kitty / Shrinky, that's exactly how it is with dh and mil. Actually, I have to be honest, dh is much worse! Mil isn't too bad most of the time, but last night she too was doing my head in. Actually I think she lets dh wind her up - when she comes over and dh isn't here, she's actually quite good.

I don't know what it is with dh. I'm prepared to admit it could also be me and I'm just giving a very one-sided version without realising it. I'm even tempted to post a genuine question on AIBU? topic (you know, other than the usual ones, am I being unreasonable to expect people not to spit in my face?, am I being unreasonable to smack my dh around? etc, you know ones where the answer to the op is a really obvious YES! or NO!)

Diva it's good to know it's feeding in general that makes Mums obsess, not just bf!! It's such an important thing though isn't it, so much else depends on how they are eating!!

Amie fingers crossed but Bertie has never got nappy rash, however occasionally his bum gets a tiny bit pinker than usual and I use sudocrem.

The Blonde, mil bf dh for 3 months, it was in the days when the advice was 15mins one side, 15mins t'other, givem a dummy & stick'em in a cot on their tummy, iyswim. But to be fair when I told her I was bfing she went out and red some books on the subject to see what the "current advice" was. Trouble is I think in some ways she now thinks she is even more of an "expert" as a result!!

Also, she had a terrible time, she did it with no support, with an alcoholic husband, who didn't help her at all... but I think that's another part of it, she thinks that because she did it without support I am making a bit of a fuss about it because I do get some support from dh and also some support from her.

I'm blathering on now and Bertie's woken up!!

X posts Amie what lovely photos he's adorable!!

Mossie - do you have that Sheila Kitzinger BF book, I really love it!

Your MIL sounds as though she means well.

Monti is 10.6 weeks
in 3-6 months clothes
No idea how much he weighs but he's getting bigger!

Amie he is really cute and sweet, aww.

amie-cute photo!

i also use bepanthen,it is wonderful.

mossy-sounds like a nightmare,i really feel for you.when i was getting obsessed with what teats to try with dd2,my mum used to go on about how,in 'her' day,you just got one type of rubber teat and had to make the hole bigger with a hot needle etc,but she seemed facinated with the amount of different things you can get for babies now,rather then thinking she was an expert.

ive been to the docs,explained about the tiredness and everything else,and she thinks i should try a higher dose of the prozac rather than something different.she also said that the dose she prescribed is the standard dose for PMT.dp rolled his eys when i told him thats what im trying.i dont know what he expects me to do,but i hope he realises that there is no drug on this planet that will make me keep my gob shut and act like the un questioning obedient wifey

Foxy you know I looked for a bf book by Sheila Kitzinger because I really liked her chapter on it in the New Experience of Childbirth book, it seemed a lot less prescriptive than some of them. But the only one I could see was the Politics of Breastfeeding which didn't seem like it was actually about how to do it, iyswim.

Bertie's still in newborn at nearly six weeks old... which is just another bloody thing to add to my paranoia that he isn't getting enough.

In a way, I know it sounds awful but I'm almost hoping I go to baby clinic on Thursday and they say, "he's not putting on weight," so I can turn around to dh and say, "I told you he needed feeding". That sounds really bad, I don't mean it how it sounds, but I want someone "in authority" to tell dh that Bertie might just need feeding more often!

God I wish I could stfu!

Diva I hope the increase of dose makes you feel a bit better... without losing your personality of course!!!

Mossy - just about to go out to lunch but will call you when I am back. I have a fab bf book which is very good on the how to, if a bit wholemeal . Suffice it to say the couples in it have also modelled for the Joy of Sex . It's called Bestfeeding - how to BF your baby and is written by a prof of midwifery. It is fab - can you get your local library to get it for you,or I can send you mine if you like? It iw written by Renfrew, Arms and Fisher. Seriously I have never had a BF problem which that book couldn't solve. bloody marvellous!

Hello everyone else. WIll reply properly once I have been out. I'll have had a glass of vino by then, so may be a bit incoherent but no more than usual....

Love to all X

mossie-if bertie is anything like my last 3 babies,he will hit 6 weeks,feed constantly for 3 days solid,then suddenly look twice as big,need new clothes,and turn into a more predictable,happy,gurggly baby

and you will forget the first few weeks ever happened..

Oh Diva I do hope so!

Dolly I have Bestfeeding but it just makes me feel more paranoid because they keep going on about how he should come off by himself when he's had enough... and yet he only does that about 1 time in 100, so I am never happy that I'm doing it right!!!

I'm probably not! Just because I'm paranoid etc...

Going to LLL meeting again tomorrow hopefully get a few more pointers again.

I wonder how women breastfed in the olden days, was it so much easier then, or did they have all these problems?

I suppose if they could afford it they'd just pass the baby over to a wet nurse!!

Just saying hello very briefly as am in an internet caff as I was burgled yesterday

So as they've nicked my laptop not going to be online much
fox -am still keen on coming over next week so will log in for details when i can

Is that true then Diva? I've forgotton but Ronaldo was 6 weeks yesterday and all he wants to do is suck. He hasn't slept since 8 this ,morning (arghhhhh!)but won't be put down, just screams.
This is a trying day

still, he weighs over 12lbs now, wish he would suck some weight off me!

Amie your pics are lovely, what a happy little chap.

I recorded 'the tribe' yesterday. It's such a good prog.

Gawd had quick skim read, but pressed for time as dd is relaly ill - temp of nearly 40 and hacking raspy cough and she has lost her voice and appetite, so I know she is really ill if she is not talking 24/7 and eating constantly. She is in bed bless her.

Finn fab. Sleeping 8-11-6-8 so cannot complain

Sazzy am gutted for you, thieving bastards.

Mossie, how about letting Bertie choose (he knows btter what he wants than dh or MIL , he can always turn his head away if he doesn't want it, you never know for sure until you offer it. Sometimes they just like to suck and when it lets down they come off spluttering as they were not really after dinner, just a light fun snack
And it does get easier after 6 weeks - HONEST!

Diva hope your ad's help.
Shanks so glad you got your ring back- I have my tiffany engagement ring in it's box as my fingers are too small after having had Finn due ton the weight loss ( I'd rather it came off my tummy not my fingers but hey there you go)

Amie - Joseph is gorgeous, they are really growing up fast!

I know I've missed loads but got soooooooooo mcuh to do

Lovely pics Amie

Sazzy did anybody hear anything?? Are the police being helpful? What a horrid experience for you

Still popping paracetemol and hoping to kick off these early mastitusy feelings... don't have those gel pads foxy but they sound a top idea.

Mossy - i read the sheila kitzinger breastfeeding book too - it made me feel really grand. Defo worth trying to get hold of... have you tried ebay?

mossy here