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March 2007 babies - a bottle of house white please

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kiwibella · 17/05/2007 20:04

you choose - for you or for your bubba

I can't believe the May thread is so excited that their babies are arriving. That time in our lives seems like soooooo long ago .

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kittyhas6 · 18/05/2007 07:32

Kiwi I have always used the same one as Eids

Shrinkinglily · 18/05/2007 08:26

Last night Hasan fed at 9.30 and slept through until 6 am. I'm in shock really, not used to this kind of baby! Of course I sat around in a daze until 12 last night instead of going to bed early as I should have done
Feeling spaced out today.
My car has a puncture and my plans for today are cancelled. I've lost my mobile somewhere....

Shrinkinglily · 18/05/2007 08:28

Oh and also I just plonked him in the bed awake last night and left him and he drifted off himself. That was a first and unplanned as everything is with me these days

TheBlonde · 18/05/2007 09:13

Right I think I have managed to catch up

Fox - how much of a walk from the stations are you? I have to figure out if I will take the train or attempt to drive

Sazzy - sorry to hear you are having trouble in the evenings. It is similar here, DD is 8 weeks now and on a rare night will feed and then sleep for a few hours. Mostly it's feed/sleep for 30mins tops/yell/feed etc

I am finding it very trying especially as DS is refusing to go to bed.
Just remember it doesn't harm them to yell for 5mins while you have a cuppa or bite to eat. If possible stick him somewhere out of earshot so you can refresh

Mossie · 18/05/2007 09:14

Ladies if any of you are up and about please can you offer suggestions here I'm tearing my hair out a bit!!

divastrop · 18/05/2007 10:06

rosy- at your sleep through the night baby.just goes to show,routines dont really work!its made me think i should just keep Elsie downstairs till i go to bed untill it feels right to start taking her up,rather then trying to force the issue.

dd2 keeps waking of a night,shes had real problems with her teeth.shes only just getting the 2nd lot of bottom ones.i hope Elsie isnt the same.

im also spaced out today as ds2 was up at 5.30.i went back to bed but he kept harrassing me,then i came downstairs with the lo's at 7 and fell asleep on the sofa.so yet again i failed to take ds anddd1 to school and had to send them on their own

divastrop · 18/05/2007 10:13

sponge-what topic is your thread in?

Mossie · 18/05/2007 10:46

Crikey Bertie is finally asleep, I'm hoping he stays asleep from the transition from hypnochair to pram, to train to Liverpool! He would choose this morning and last night to have totally forgotten how to latch on as well.

(Yeah, 'cos, like it's all his fault he does it deliberately... )

Sazzy, Bertie can be like Elliot sometimes, there are a few things I've tried and sometimes they work, will report back after I've been to Liverpool. There's a book I really enjoyed called No Cry Sleep Solution, some of it resonated with me and I found it helpful, but there are loads of articles from the book on the web if you google it...

Diva I'm sure your dp will be okay with you meeting up with us, if you really have been as bad as you say then he'll probably be glad to get you out the house for half a day!!

Booboo - happy birthday to Jonny!!

Right off to pack up the final things then off to get the train

ARRRGH!!!!

Still, you only get the confidence after you've done the hard thing (ah... I miss sales bs, really I do )

sazzybee · 18/05/2007 11:06

Thanks for all advice - am racing around today but going to try and get to mothercare and get one of those bath support things. I should never have read baby whisperer before he was born - was convinced if I did it all right, he'd go down like a dream. I think I forgot he was a person too

Kalu kalay the sun is shining today. Makes everything soooo much better

Am off to see my best friend's new baby - she was born yesterday and awake from 11 till 4 in the night

kittyhas6 · 18/05/2007 11:21

Mossie, babies don't forget how to latch!!!!

You'll both be fine, don't panic!!

Sazzy send some of that sun over here will you?

divastrop · 18/05/2007 11:50

'tis p*ing down here

sazzy-ive never read a baby book.the first time i didnt even know such things existed.then after that it was just a case of the baby having to fit in with everybody else.i too forgot that Elsie was a person in her own right and was a bit put out when she didnt do what i expected for the first few weeks.

mossie-dp is ok with it i just thought i would get loads of comments about 'how do you know its a woman?' etc and about me being a hypocrite cos i would never let him meet people off the net etc etc.
i dont know when we would be able to do it atm as i'm still rather loopy and dont know if i could cope(i cant even manage to have a conversation with the playground mums atm as i keep thinking they're laughing at me).

muppethasakitten · 18/05/2007 12:03

Sazzy - reading the baby whisperer in the first few weeks of Samuel's life was exactly what put me into a decline!! And I'm on my third... because her advice is so radically different to my natural mothering techniques (what had worked for my previous two) it made me doubt my own instincts and try methods that weren't right for me.

I can see how her methods would work for many people but i really found myself pushing a square peg into a round hole. It wasn't until my HV said what on earth are you trying to do all that for if it goes against your instincts - that i took a deep breath and went back to my very slack routine way of life (a la rosy school)!

Now i have a much more contented baby and a much more contented me. My dh works crazy hours - if he's back b4 9.30 that's unusual. He doesn't see my 9 year old a 7 year old in the week as he's home after they're asleep and away before they're awake - so to an extent I can appreciate how hard it is on your own. (although I clearly have him at w/e's so wouldn't dream of assuming i completely appreciated how hard it is for you).

If the controlled crying isn't working for you then stop it. Perhaps you could just let him fall asleep on you and then when he's deeply asleep put him down in his cot? It is difficult to find time to sit by yourself, have a glass of wine, cook your supper... I have exactly those issues in the week. The other thing i do sometimes is have a bigger meal at lunch time and then don't have to cook for myself at night time. It's easier to grab a salad at the end of the day then.

Do I win the prize for the longest, rambling message about one thing???

Piffle · 18/05/2007 12:08

mossie hope Berties ok for you today and remembers how to feed properly! FWIw Finn gets very little aside from nipple as my boobs are just too much for him to gape and gobble at, but he feeds well, is piling on weight and nips are painfree.
you can also find that when littlies have colds they are thristy more than hungry, (same as when theyre older)and nipple sucking usually only gets them foremilk...

Finn i in mostly 3-6 mths stuff as well now, esp with cloth nappies! He is having a lot of sleep atm, conserving his enrgy for what I don't know, I suspect getting mobile as he is nearly rolling over from back to front now, he can travel meters backwards on his back and on his front esp in bed! He is well over 13lbs now and was 8 wks yesterday.

Sazzy bit pressed now but will be back later as Finn often has a screamathon in the evenings if I try and do a routine betime thing, we ad lib it now he falls asleep in my arms downstairs I put him to bed, if he waskes I feed him and treat it as a dark night feed.

Piffle · 18/05/2007 13:04

and also sazzy if you remember I read the BW with dd and my memory told me it was great as dd was a wonderful sleeper...
then after trying it again with Finn and thinking..God her bf advice sucks and differs from what I want to do, I then remembered why I had not kept my copy of the bloody bok in the first place!

However one thing I do think works is not to have long naps in the day, Finn would go 2-3 hrs sometimes and while it is a gosend for getting stuff done, it screwsup pm so badly.
So he gets about 3-4 x 1 hr naps and goes down like a dream now.

evenhope · 18/05/2007 13:25

sazzy bit late but in answer to your question I have 2 teenagers to make my dinner and bring me tea . Sorry I'd forgotten you are on your own- I can see why you need him to go down early. I've just had a row with DH because I wanted him to hold DD for 5 mins so I could put the washing out and he was in the middle of grouting and couldn't stop

muppethasakitten · 18/05/2007 14:34

Yes, i second what evenhope says - I have a 9 year old girl who is like another pair of hands for me when she gets home from school... she takes the place of my absent dh in the helping out stakes.

Piffle · 18/05/2007 14:40

yes 13 yr old ds is a godsend, he can cook, bath dd and hold Finn while I do other stuff

P does anyone else have a Coorie fleece sling?
I have tried several and got this today
Finn has just bombed out in it within seconds. He loves it the stripes colours he just stares at them and smiled his way to sleep
Magic
Get one!

kittyhas6 · 18/05/2007 15:12

Piffle I have a tricotti which Ronnie loves. instant sleep. I have an ergo for when they get bigger. Glad you've found something which works for you!

Mossie · 18/05/2007 15:31

Sazzy, no cry sleep solution thingy -

Basically, you start out by letting him sleep in your arms, etc, as usual.

As Booboo says, he goes through sleep cycles. When he's in a really deep sleep, usually after about half an hour, put him down in his cot.

After a few days, you start putting him down to sleep while he's in the first stage, the half hour before he's in a deep sleep, and staying by the cot, rocking it a bit etc. If he wakes, pick him up again and start the sequence over.

Gradually, you lessen the time before you put him in his cot. The idea is that after about two weeks of this, you're putting him down while he is awake, and falling asleep, so he associates falling asleep, with being in the cot.

Then after a day or two of this, you put him down in his cot, while he's sleepy (yawning, etc) but still awake, and he falls to sleep by himself.

It takes ages of course... but dh wanted to let Bertie do cc and I just couldn't bear the sound of it, it made me cry and cry myself, which wasn't healthy.

Bertie is now at the stage where we're putting him down while he's falling asleep, the last two nights it seems to have worked okay!!

HTH - I think you have to do what feels best for you, as others have said on here, and ignore the books if they make you feel crappy.

Mossie · 18/05/2007 15:32

Piffle "you can also find that when littlies have colds they are thristy more than hungry, (same as when theyre older)and nipple sucking usually only gets them foremilk..." I hadn't thought of that, but it does make sense.

Kitty I am just being paranoid that he's forgotten forever and I'm stuffed... I was also in a big panic this morning about going into Liverpool and I don't think that helped!!!

Right had better go and feed him now, best as I can anyway!!!

kittyhas6 · 18/05/2007 15:58

mossie how did it go on the train? I bet it didn't turn out to be as stressful as you'd feared?

Mossie · 18/05/2007 16:13

He slept all the way there, all the way around Liverpool and then on the train back he woke up and was hungry...

So I put him on my boob, tried to be as discreet as possible but it's difficult with these big floppy norks! I got a few shocked glares and went bright red, but one woman gave me a big smile so it made me feel better.

He's now "official" and registered (Bertrand, not Bertram, in the end, but given he'll be Bertie until he's old enough to leave home and decide for himself whether he wants a long name or a short name it doesn't really matter!)

Mossie · 18/05/2007 16:21

Sazzy just a thought do you have a sling you can put him in while you chop veg / other prep etc for your tea? If he likes being close to you he may even fall asleep in it, but even if not you'll at least be able to get stuff done and hopefully eat!!

spongecake · 18/05/2007 17:47

diva, sorry have been asleep! the amber thread is under behaviour-as you can see haven't tried the thread paste thing.

have found big bit of sheet which may try to fashion into a slito for home, but baby is heavy and it will be vv if he droops out, like me in a hammock

spongecake · 18/05/2007 17:47

sling, not slito! sorry...