April 2007 ...... as the last stragglers trudge wearily over .......

[CaptainDippy]

That ok!!?

Glad all is better in your household SOKL!

Just got back from church, DD2 sleeping in cot, DD3 sleeping in hallway in car seat and DH out with DD1 who will soon be asleep in her pram in the living room ..... ..... THREE sleeping girls ..... We managed it!

Nutty - I left some info on your coccyx pain on the last thread .....

LOL @ Ellie and Pinions discussing my "frenzied lifestyle" last night!!

Just popping in before shower, dressed & church .... hopefully all three girls will sleep in sync this pm and I have had a wee bit of a break ..... .....I definitely need it cos my mum (aka Hagbain the Witch Queen) and granny are down for the week. They are staying in a guest house nearby and already driving me nuts ..... Argh!! Positive coping vibes to be sent my way, please ......

Hope Elkie and Danny are ok in hospital - thank you for the update Mikey - keep 'em coming ......

How is everyone else doing?? Any plans today? After girls' sleep today, going over to PIL to have tea with them and my mum and gran ..... Great ......

Morning ladies.

Lovely to hear from you Isabelly.

Milk vibes to Elkie.

Well, as predicted, the evening was awful. K woke up at 9.30 for a bottle and I was still with her at midnight. Every night we have this where she necks her bottle, cries out as if in pain, makes out she is hungry, has a bit more to eat and then pukes it up.

I have to say I was near to screaming at her last night and the thought of putting her up for adoption came to mind - seriously.

However, she didn't wake up until 7.15 this morning, so no night feed for dh to do. Can't think this is it now tho - just a one off.

I am going through a down patch I have to admit. Not PND level, but I am finding it all very boring, and sometimes I dread when she wakes up in case she is a nightmare - which 9/10 she isn't!

Poor lamb.

Need to get on. Back on later.

Hope everyone is ok.

x

A quick message just to keep in touch. Have just managed to catch up despite constant DS's interruptions ! SKL - we are getting a complete mix of days and nights still (she will be 5 weeks on Wednesday). Although I find if I wake her up at around midnight (if she is asleep) for a feed and then swaddle her and put her in her cradle we get the best result of a sleep up to 4 or 5 am. Know how you feel though bigtime. When she is having a bad evening I think that the best mental approach is just to say to yourself "that's the evening gone", put the subtitles on the telly and walk and rock the little tike until she hopefully eventually settles.....

Morning (or is it?)...can't even pretend to keep up I'm afraid, but all going OK here. Sophie continues to be a little darling, although she hasn't got the hang of day/night yet and is, as per usual, snoozing away peacefully next to me right now. Why can't she do this at night?? As far as she's concerned night time is for eating....oh well, keep trying to persist with some sort of routine, but it is very early days still I appreciate. She really is the most snuggly little creature I've ever met though, and likes nothing better than being curled up on my chest. I am indulging her a bit at the moment as this is a complete contrast to how Em was - she just screamed non-stop when she was tiny, so I am enjoying my little cuddly bundle .

SOKL - K sounds rather like Em was as a baby - i.e. the crying out as if in pain, mega vomits, not settling...It turned out that she had mild reflux and a dose of Infant Gaviscon in her feeds transformed her & our lives. I'm not a Dr obviously, but it might be something to consider? Perhaps discuss it with your GP? I have to say, her behaviour was a major factor in my post-natal 'issues', and the introduction of Gaviscon to our lives really helped the cloud lift.

Am in a bit of pain today. My hip joint started aching yesterday and today it is very, very sore. Am literally grabbing onto furniture/walls to help me walk. Dh has taken Em out for the day, so I am planning to stay stuck to the sofa as much as possible to rest it. Am gonna have to see the GP tomorrow if this continues though as paracetemol is doing bugger all. I wonder if it's just a post-birth pain. Very odd & annoying.

It's Em's 5th birthday tomorrow, so we're having a tea-party for her after school. Only 9 kids coming thank goodness, but it's still a bit of an undertaking at this stage! But my big girl has been such a darling that she deserves a little bash and to be made to feel very special .

Sorry to ramble on...hope all is good with you all.

Milky vibes to Elkie.....

Hi ladies

Dh has taken both dd's out on the train to Portsmouth!! Is he mad?

Just waiting for my parents who are coming for lunch.

EM, I think the reason K vomits is that she has overeaten. It is almost as if she has a pain in her tummy which she mistakes for hunger. I give her a bit more to eat, and she chucks it back up. It is only ever in the evening this happens. Very strange. Seeing the nurse on Tuesday so will ask about it then, but will also look up mild reflux. You sound on top of the World btw!

Hi Birdiemum.

Need to go as parents at the door. xx

Goodness me - this is a popular time for Birthdays, isn't it!!!? There's so many of us organising Birthday Do's for older siblings while trying to adjust to our beautiful newborns ..... we are all crazy (and clearly all get horny in the summer!! )

Poor you EM, honey - get lots of rest today if poss and definitely go see your GP tomorrow sweetheart - Not nice to be in so much pain. xx

What's everyone else up to? I'm going to catch up on a few bits while the girls are sleeping (yes, all three of them!! ) and then off to PIL for tea with my mum and gran ...... Sigh .....

Good luck with the tea ith your mum, gran and PILs - what a combination! Sounds joyous from your descriptions of them all .

Lol at horny in the summer!

OK have finally created a v brief profile and stuck a couple of photos on it....all done one handed!

hello everyone! hope you don't mind me butting in - my first daughter was born on 17th April (9 days after EDD - induction) and I've just discovered this thread. I have been avidly reading all about how you've all been getting on and doing loads of nods of recognition.

In particular - Sexonknackeredlegs - your daughter's evening feeding/crying patterns sounds exactly the same as mine. In our case, Bethan will take a feed at about 6ish, glug it down quickstyle, and then start struggling and grimacing. Eventually this fretting turns to full-on bawling. Sometimes I can soothe her and she'll fall asleep within an hour or so, but several nights she's been unsettled and grizzly all the way through until her next feed. After that one, she usually falls asleep.

I've tried Infacol, Tommy Tippee health check bottles, different feeding positions, winding after every 1/2 oz, nothing makes any difference. If she gets to the bawling stage, she's pretty much inconsolable. Although: one thing I have found is that a (cringe) dummy does seem to soothe her if nothing else has worked. When she's struggling and grizzling at the end of her feed, it's as if she's still rooting for more, but if I offer her more she'll dribble all of it down her chin. On the occasions that she has taken more, she's puked it all back up again, so there's obviously no more room in her tum. I was really against the use of dummies and I still keep it as a very last resort, but on the evenings I've used it, it's made the difference between a reasonably contented baby and one that screams the house down for 3 hours. I swaddle her up, give her her dummy and sit with her lying tummy down on my front, and she chills right out. If she falls asleep, the dummy falls out and she doesn't notice.

Anyway, you might have tried this already or be really against the idea, but I wanted to let you know about it in case you thought it could work.

octo sorry to hear you think you've got thrush. It's flippin painfl isn't it. We used DAKTARIN cream - oral gel for T and the usual cream for me. I would get Ernie some oral gel and treat him so you don't re-infect each other. The normal cream on your nipples needs to be washed off before you feed. The good news is it works pretty fast and you should be out of the worst of it in 24hrs. Hope you find somewhere open to get some today. I found paracetamol kept me going until the pain eased.

Hi everyone,
Ellie, thanks for the cute pics of Joe, the last few didn't work though, don't think that was me but it could have been?
Sorry to hear about your non-sweet smelling baby, glad he's since had a bath!!
Hi again pinions, it seems a while since you've been on!
Hope elkie is OK
Dippy, good luck with the huge family get together!
SOKL sorry to hear you're having a bad time. T did a similar thing this morning with overeating then throwing it all back up, also slept for 6 hours last night, then tried to make up for it with a mammoth feed, which was projectile vomited all over me!! He was then very upset and distressed, and so I think that's why he's feedding badly today. At least this seems to be a one off, hope things get better soon for you and K.
Finally - a question! Can anyone tell me a sure way of getting those stupid little vials of vit K open? Had to do it on Friday, first one shattered into millions of tiny pieces and cut my hand to ribbons, called the labour ward who told me to snap on the white dot, second was better but still shattered and I spent a while checking for shards of glass in the syringe!! Any easy way to do it?

Hi ALL again (briefly in and out again).

OCTO DUG OUT THIS FOR YOU FROM LAST THREAD, THRUSH, its a bit long winded but just pick out the useful bits.

So signs to look out for:

-SORE NIPS (USUALLY JUST ONE) THAT DOESN'T HEAL
-PAINFUL WHEN FEEDING
-NAPPY RASH TYPE THING AROUND BABYS BOTTOM WHICH IS ALSO VERY PAINFUL FOR THEM
-WHITE COAT ON TONGUE WHICH IS THERE CONSTANTLY AND NOT JUST AFTER FEEDING(HAS BEEN THERE FOR OVER A WEEK AND I THOUGHT IT WAS MILK).
-GENERALLY VERY UNSETTLED

""Baby has DEFINITELY got oral thrush. It is extremely painful for him and all he seems to do is cry and cry and I had a feeling that sth just was not "right". He is really tired and irritable all the time and even when asleep is not really properly asleep.

Anyway, been to the doctors today and have been given a cream (daktarin) for his mouth, same cream for my nips and tablets for myself. they also get a really painful rash around the bottom which just looks like nappy rash. ""

""We were given daktarin oral gel, to smear around inside of t's mouth and tongue. Also cream for his bottom cos that sore too. You MUST get treatment for yourself you were right, obviously it is no good treating one without the other. You can use the same oral daktarin for nips (cos it goes in the mouth anyway) and this should be kept in the fridge. You also need tablets (nystatin) safe when bf.""

Quite sad cos thats all i've got time for i don't like this mother of 2 thing any more ?!? DS1 gone to playcentre with dp, i think the thought of me bf in public was way too humiliating for dp so gone without me !
Bit defeatist but i can't wait to stop. The only thing that worries me is that then you get your "hormone crash" or at least i did the last time, when periods come back. Am gonna make it to 2 months and then start bottle feeds i think?????

Have to say that the "newborn" stage is well and truly over and am now at the desperately trying to get through every day stage - roll on the next 6 months!!!

And SOKL how do you managae to get on here EVERY day???

I can tell you're pretty organised but still!

Hiya ladies,

EM, hope your hip pain has subsided - sounds awful having to hold on to the walls etc. to get about.
Gorgeous pics btw!

Hi Lazyemma! What a nickname! Thanks for the note re Bethan. I haven't tried a dummy tbh, but may well investigate as it is becoming a nightmare and it makes me dread the evenings. I am trying to stay calm as I know lo's can pick up on stress, but it is soooo hard esp. when we are all tired.

Octo, hope you are ok, and it isn't thrush - sounds painful.

Elie, lovely pics of Joe - thanks for sharing them.

Hiya Katy, CD and Pinions!!

Pinions, not sure how I manage to get on here so often. K does sleep quite a lot still which helps, and during the week for 4/5 days, it is just me and K as Becky is at preschool from 9.30 until 5.30!
Keeps me sane as well!!

Hope everyone else is ok.

Had a lovely day with my mum and dad over, and B has been on top form.

Need to go as K is waking up for the next feeding frenzy!

See you all later. xx

Anyone know how to get rid of constipation in a baby? Zed seems to be suffering.

Infacol usually sorts it out.

The fucking doctor I saw was CRAP

I told him the symptoms I had and that had no swelling or red patches or fever - just the pain in nipple and deep shooting pain and that ernie didn't have it but he had been on antibiotics which could have caused it - he felt breast and said he thought had mild mastitis - if it got any worse to go see my GP - for fucks sake - thats why I am here - its fucking agony and if it gets any worse I think I might pass out - says as don't have temp not going to prescribe antibiotics - so he gives me canestan and some anti inflammatories that aren't really compatible with bf - so didn;t get them when went to chemist - so have been putting on cream after each feed - but he didn;t tell me to wash it off - very angry

Am going to call own doctor in morning and explain what has happened and ask to be seen again - he didn't listen and he failed to prescribe properly - am so cross!

Rant over ...

anyway have been for afternoon kip and planning to go to bed early!

SOKL - it sounds a little bit like relfux - would keep an eye on it - or it could be that K wants something to suck on - maybe a dummy would help??? Depends whether you're into them or not really - helps with ernie - he has virtual constant desire to suck!

Hello Lazyemma

We are a chirpy lot really

SOSKL and Lazyemma-soskl i will wmail you the baby massage information, may help?
lazyemma if you want me to email you as well just leave your email address I'm sure ellie will be more than happy to add you to our list or you can email me elana dot cooper at ntl world dot com.

Octo-you poor love hope you get things sorted out soon your Dr sound crap.

• Arse that the Dr was so rubbish - hope that your dr can help you lots mroe when you contact him tomorrow.....

I am trying to remina v.calm and collect atm - DD's 1&2 have been an absolute nightmare going to bed for the last week or so ...... Don't seem tired at all - complete bonkers and bouncing off the walls - Driving me completely nuts tbh ...... Currently screaming their heads off andh ave been for the last hour. Makes me soooooo anxious cos it means DH & I can't go out anywhere as wouldn't want to leave them with anyone like this. It is really getting me down tbh.

Just been in there, think I've settled DD2, but DD1 is screaming and screaming and screaming, which means DD2 won't be settled for long. I feel really and feel like I want to shake them both ....... HELP!!

Hi dippy tbh they're probably just still settling down after the birth and new addition i would give it time and see how it goes........either that or take them for a ten mile walk every day x

And waspelly - dp has been told not to expect sex for the next 12 years.

Cheers hon, but not sure I have the energy for the ten mile walk ...... might just have to drug them.

Did someone say Gin?

Was going to mention that but was fearing the mn nazi lurkers (not from this thread btw).

hope it goes ok with your mum btw, i've got mine from tues onwards and NOT really looking forward to it......will be sending you I'm in the same boat as you vibes........