April 2007 ...... as the last stragglers trudge wearily over .......

[CaptainDippy]

That ok!!?

Glad all is better in your household SOKL!

Just got back from church, DD2 sleeping in cot, DD3 sleeping in hallway in car seat and DH out with DD1 who will soon be asleep in her pram in the living room ..... ..... THREE sleeping girls ..... We managed it!

Nutty - I left some info on your coccyx pain on the last thread .....

Hi all, glad to hear about some good nights! Ours wasn't too bad and Ruby was asleep all evening too which was a bit more restful for me.

SOSKL - Ruby's still in with me at night but DH has moved out to the spare room! He was waking up every time we did and since I rely on him to get the other 3 up and do the school run, that wasn't much good to either of us. I do find myself getting Ruby up when she's at the snuffly stage rather than full on crying because once I'm awake I figure I might as well get started as we'll be back to sleep quicker IYSWIM. But, I remember with the others that they slept better once in their own room, partly because sometimes they settled themselves rather than waking up for milk. I'm going to keep Ruby in with me for a while longer because once she moves out of our room she'll be sharing with DS. Plus we are going to the UK for six weeks in the summer so will probably move her after that. But I think I moved the others out of our room at around a month old.

Maveta - glad the bf seems to be going so well. Hope you get the tt sorted out one way or the other.

WCL - glad you're over your bug.

Bugmum - hope the UTI clears up soon.

Zazas - much respect to 5 DC and working

Hello to everyone else.

Morning! Happy Bank Holiday to all - hope you all have lovely things planned to do with your families! Weather is absolutely poo here! - Was going to go for picnic / afternoon on the beach, but I think we'll have to take a Rain Check on that one ...... Ha! Ha! "Rain Check", get it!!!?

OK, sorry .....

Ahem.

All fine here - DD's being delightful, esp DD1 who is an absolute angel with Phoebe. Atm DD2 is sleeping in her cot and DD2 is watching Hercules with DD3 sleeping next to her in the car seat. DH just having a shower and I am just catching up here while I have the opportunity!

Hope everyone is doing ok, despite sleep deprivation, sore nips, etc etc.....

Ooooh, post just come .... more pink cards!!

Just remembered, it's Bank Holiday and there's no post ..... must have just been next door negghbours banging a door or something!!

Ernie is now in his own room - about a week now - working really well and sitting in the nursing chair in his room much better for my back than propped up by pillows on the bed. He is waking just once or twice a night now which is fab - last night he fed for 15 mins and then wnt straight back to sleep. He also seems to know now that about 7pm is bedtime as he gets all restless and when change him & put in grobag and lights down he chill sout for his feed and goes to bed straight after. Sometimes it takes a while to settle him but the two other terrors shouting and playing doesn't help! May have to start staggering bedtime to stop them disturbing eachother.

Maveta - silly question - but is Noahs tongue def down when he feeds? - we got into a complete pickle with ds1 because managed to get his tongue on top of nipple and feeding/latching on was a nightmare.

Zazas - you are todays medal winner! I have 3 now and it seems complete chaos at times - you seem to be coping really well - and working !

wriggly babies when feeding - try swaddling them on wedge their arm under your boob!

green poo - thought that was normal I have an info sheet on poo from hosp LOL and it says they go through a green poo phase!

Dh has taken the boys to Castle Combe to watch the car racing so am home with a sleeping ernie til lunchtime - time for bath, tea and chocolate!!!

Have a lovely bank holiday ... in the rain!

LOL CD at post/rain check

Phoebe is mot definitely still in our room (obviously, only being a week old and all....) It also has a lot to do with the fact that we've only manged to strip wallpaper from one wall in her room .... that is as far as we got with the decorating before she was born!! (Which, in turn, had a lot to do with the complete crapness of PIL... ...)

Ok, here goes with what I can remember

Luce, having moved in July I know what you're going through but with a newborn too, must be even harder. Hope you get thorugh the next couple of weeks ok, once you're there you'll just have to unpack it all Sorry didn't need to remind you of that!

SOKL, Harry's poo is pretty runny. I'm thinking the runny/hardness may be to do with the type of formula Georgia's wasn't as runny i'm sure but he's on a different formula. MW didn't seem concerned when i mentioned it was pretty much wee out of the bum, sorry TMI!!!

Zazas, I too think you're doing an amazing job with 5 dcs and working. I'm off to work in the next couple of weeks for a few days. Got to go in every month for a few days to do a set of management accountsbut i think i'll enjoy dc free time

CD, you nearly made me check the letter box then and we had to 'rain check' our plans too

I've been thinking about putting H in his room but the cot needs a matress first as G's got mouldy in the loft, nice, so we threw it out. And i'd need a chair or something to avoid going downstairs for feeding so not sure there's much point. Kinda like having him next to me in his moses basket. DH doesn't seem to wake either, except last night when he was on duty. But H only woke once and every other night he has me upo twice, little monkey's favouring daddy just like dd does already

Hello to everyone i've missed which is a lot

Lol @ CD and the letterbox!

Eddas - Erin's favouring daddy too...she plays up the night before he goes back to work!!! and then cries all morning for me but drops off to sleep about 10 mins before DH gets back at lunchtime!

SOKL - Erin's poo is quite well formed (we're using SMA Gold at the mo) and looks a mustard kind of colour. Not sure that's any help to you really. She's still in our room and does make a bit of noise but I sleep through anything (I don't always hear her crying for a feed or DH getting up and feeding her - I'm such a bad mummy ) and DH is doing all the night feeds at the moment anyway (he's taken pity on me feeling sore!).

OK A COUPLE OF STOOOOOPPPPIIIIDDD QUESTIONS FROM A FIRST TIMER:

1. If I go to a cafe, on my own, where you have to push a tray along (like in debenhams/bhs kinda thing) what do I do with the pram? Do I find a seat and leave baby in the pram by a table and hope no-one runs off with her....or do I try to carry the tray and push the pram at the same time?

2. If I go somewhere that doesn't allow prams, do I just leave it outside and hopes no-one nicks it? (or do I boycott on the grounds they're not child friendly!!! )

3. If you're in a shop and baby is screaming, what do you do? (i.e. if you know she's been fed, has clean nappy, etc.) Do you just let it scream?

Afternoon all

I'm so glad to know that I'm not alone in how I've been feeling. This thread is so reassuring

Think ds2 has been playing us a treat though. Not even 4 weeks old, and he already knows which buttons to press Didn't want to sleep last night, (me and dh started to get a bit stressed) until dh realised that he stopped crying when the light when one and we talked to him. The cheeky monkey just wanted to stay awake for a chat (yes, he's started making those really cute oohh and aahh noises) So we've now got to try and keep him awake during the day, so he'll sleep at night.

As for the hand expressing - I really do feel like I'm being milked, esp as it flows so quick. Dh is fascinated by it

Have a nice BH all

xx

nuttygirl

answers to your questions

1.Once you've finished pushing the tray along, ask a member of staff to bring it to the table for you,

2.I never my puschair anywhere! I paid a lot of money for it, and don't even leave it in the doctors waiting room!

3.Let them cry. A lot easier said than done, but after the first couple of times it happens, you tend to get selective hearing

never leave my pushchair

Thanks RH - can you tell I'm facing my first day out alone soon (next Saturday!)

I know some of us have got a few events/weddings over the next few months, so I've started a thread for bf friendly outfits asking for help.

bf outfit

ng- you'll be fine! Most places are pushchair friendly purely because they have to be wheelchair friendly (new DDA rules) so they should have lifts etc.

Mothercare is great for feeding, toilets etc. Usually have feeding lounges which are fab, with aircon and comfy sofas, even if just to give yourself a few mins

few mins rest

can you tell I'm typing with one hand? lol

Nutty, my answers are the same as runny's, but

1. a tray fits onto the handes of my pushchair so if i'm somewhere with unhelpful staff i just pop it on there and push both along.
2. Definately boycott as runny says pushcahir costs alot so i don't leave it. I can't even go into a lot of mens shops in my town as they're upstairs No idea how disabled people go there 3)Let them cry, people will stare but they're either sympathy stares from parents or the stares of people without kids and f em if they don't like the crying!!! And you very soon get used to ignoring the stares anyway and develop your own, f* off there's nothing wrong with them look to give back

HTH!!

sorry about the swearing

Runny, my mothercare always smells like dirty nappies, not somewhere i'd want to sit too long But this is just my town!!!

I love bluewater's mother and baby facilities, they're great. Even have a loo in some of the feeding rooms, fab idea.

Right ds crying, wonder if it's wind Probably should check rather than keep tyoing!

Yet i'm still here

(Busy day on here today)

Nutty - at the stupid women on phone.
And i loved the q about the cafe! Well knowing the bhs cafe you're talking about i would if you could leave the pram at a table very close to the checkout. DON'T attempt to carry a tray at the same time - if you've got hot drinks, you probably worked that out for yourself. Equally though i wouldn't leave the pram where you couldn't see it. I did it once in argos the one on the headrow cos there are loads of steps down and have never checked sth so much in all my life!

No don't leave a pram anywhere in case it gets nicked.

If you are in a shop and baby screams unless you want to get looks from hell from EVERYONE who walks past including staff, I would leave the shop (with the intention of returning) and calm baby down. TBH they only usually cry like that when hungry so a bottle would normally sort it if you ask me.

LOL have just read everyone elses replies re the screaming so i seem to be in the minority! Sop its just me then. I can't bear it when baby is screaming in a shop i just want to run. But what i would normally do (if still crying after a couple of mins rocking is leave the shop, sort them out and then go back) Unless they are really hungry TBH at this age they will usually sleep for the whole time they are out cos of all the fresh air.

ANYWAY LEAVE THE BABY WITH SOMEONE ELSE AND GO SHOPPING (joke)

Octo - at weaning!

Eca - glad to help and hope thrush has settled now.

Sol - no the baby is still in our room, can't face the thought at having to trudge in and out a nursery 8 times a night just yet. AND dp has been in the spare room (and still is (since i was 6 mths pregnant .

Elkiedee - a lot of "firsttimers" find it a lot easier to bf lying down and try to have the baby below you as if he is looking up at yet on the bed.

Dippy - raincheck i don't get it - being really thick today! please someone enlighten me!!

Luce - moving with a newborn you are braver than me good luck x

....and this is really grim and if you don't want a bit TMI the don't read.

Has anyone else had any blood in their poo. I noticed it last night but it was quite a bit . I know my friend had this too several weeks after birth, so maybe linked to the labour after all you do feel like you are pooing a baby. I have also been very constipated so maybe thats it?

Sorry if that was a bit grim.

.....and nutty - in 3 years i have never come across a place that doesn't allow prams. Either that or i haven't noticed/taken any notice.

hi all. short message as typing with one hand and dd in the other! all ok here except for wanting to scream at dh for being a lazy and moaning git! he is doing my skull in today. thank god its not the men that have to keep up with two hourly feeds overnight, the poor babes would starve. i am knackered at the mo but dont spend my day whinging about it unlike him. can you tell he has pissed me off?!

Eddas, is Harry on Aptamil, and was Georgia on SMA? B was on SMA and Katie is on Aptamil. I know it said on the tine that it could be more liquidy because of the prebiotics in it.

Runny, good to see you back on, and you sound a bit brighter which is grand.

Luce, sorry to hear weeing is sore for you. Can you perhaps provide a urine specimen and that would tell you what it is.

Pinions, no real advice re the blood, but sounds as if it could be due to the constipation. As others have said, just keep an eye on it and head to the docs if no improvement.

Thanks all for your comments re room-sharing. Looks as though we are going to try K in her own room tonight as dh is back to work tomorrow. We only have 1 or 2 get-ups in the night, so not too bad - it is more the grunting etc that seems to keep dh awake poor soul whilst I sleep though it!

Mammyjo, know what you mean about dh's. Mine is driving me mad at the mo. I know he is tired, but so am I, and he is so short tempered. He also forgets that it was only just over 2 weeks ago that by body went through birth, and is still really in recovery.

CD, hope you found something to do today with the weather being pants.

Nutty, I am so glad that you asked the questions you did.

We took a trip to an aquarium today which was a nightmare. It was heaving with people, and you couldn't really get a pushchair around, so I ended up coming out after 5 minutes as was beginning to feel claustrophobic. B and dh only lasted half an hour, as B was not interested in the slightest! Won't be repeating the trip in a hurry as it also cost 20 quid!

Right, K sounding as if she is about to kick off, so had better go.

Hope everyone that I have failed to mention is ok. Back later. xx