September 2006: no longer baby babies (anyone feeling broody) !!

[Coriander73]

Hello...

just been swmimming...am off to pick the DC up in a mo...where is everyone?!

Ooh, Cori - how exciting re. your hols. What's that you mention? .. Sun? What's that then? Agree thread is v. quiet at the moment, but I also shouldn't be logging on as am at work, but need a break, 'cos it's all driving me mad!
Bristols - how exciting for your scan - do keep us updated on it. Have to admit that had a horrid bug for last couple of days - really, really sick and I just thought, I couldn't be pregnant again now with DS to look after if morning sickness was going to be same as last time, 'cos although DS was an absolute angel, I have had no energy to look after him and I couldn't do that for 16 weeks or more. Mentioned this to DH and he said "Excellent, the poison worked then!!" - he doesn't really mean it, but I guess it was quite amusing.
Glad it sounds like you are tired but not suffering sickness too much Bristols - sounds like an ideal pregnancy!
Right, must get on with work. Maybe we should start a new thread soon, as it is a long way down to post a new message?

Meant to say - good thing about my bug is this morning I fitted into a pair of pre-pregnancy work trousers yay!!! - maybe my weigh-in at WW won't be so bad this week, but I really, really wouldn't recommend it as a way of losing weight !

Is definitely more quiet around here. I'd rather be on here than the Feb antenatal club, though. There are about thirty or forty people and it's so hard to keep up. Have given up for now. Would rather talk to you guys!

We're not going to find out the sex of the baby but obviously will start thinking of names as we go along. My current favourite girls' name is Fleur. What do you think?

Bristols - Fleur is a lovely name. If DS was a girl we were going to call her Isla, Emilia or Robin. What about boys, do you have any boys names?
We're off down to see parents this weekend. I hope it is relaxing (they have a hot tub in the garden )

hi everyone

been feeling really low lately, don't know whether it's because i've been ill so much lately or just the stress of having a sn child and a hard baby and no help other than from dp who is over worked.

dd2 is 1 tomorrow. feels really strange that i was going into labour this time last year, scared of her coming out so early. she's just had her 8 month check (abit late) though and is doing fine. she's now 18lb4. they want to check her hearing as they think she might be over sensitive to loud noises and also check that she's not got a squint. the hv witnessed dd2 throw a proper wobbler and she agrees they're toddler tantrums but she says it's a good thing as a way of showing her development and wanting to communicate but it's bloody hard work dealing with them as she kicks away and throws herself about.

i've also switched dd2 over to bottles full time, i just felt the time was right, she kept biting me and i'm too tired to keep on going anymore.

bristols - that's a lovely name. i find girls easier to name than boys.

mabel - what a horrible time that must have been. i'm glad you're sorting the gate now and that your ds1 has realised what he did was wrong.

i hope the weather changes soon, we wanted to take dd2 out for her birthday but as it's raining yet again we're thinking we'll wait and see if the weather gets any better.

Happy Birthday to your dd Are you having a party? And what did you buy her (inspiration needed!!)
It does sound like you've got a lot on your plate. Do you think it might be worth talking to your gp if you haven't already about feeling low? Also have you tried Homestart if you need a bit of help?
Bristols - I think Fleur is really pretty too.
Hope everyone is coping with the weather and not going too stir crazy.

hi. i've bought her a ball that flashes when it gets touched which she loves and we bought her a few cot toys to keep her amussed when she wakes up. other than that i've been stuck as she has loads of toys still from dd1. we'll go out when the weather gets better. we're having a little party tomorrow but i'm not looking forward to seeing people for one day when they're not here the rest of the time, i know it seems selfish of me but nobody is here for us, even just to talk to about things we're going through with the girls. i'm really upset by the postal strike as she only got a card from me and her dad and a card from her sister.

i'm now looking into homestart. i'm still not sure whether to go on antidepressents or not. i know life will get easier in september when dd1 starts sn nursery but it's getting to september. i get really annoyed with my family, i've been there so much for them but when i need help they're not here for me and they come up with silly excuses as to why they can't help out so i'm just shutting myself off completely from them all as they've hurt me far too much. when i look back to my childhood i remember things and i know i never had that loving family back then so i'm going to have to stop pretending that they'll suddenly be all loving and give me some support.

sorry don't mean to sound all low at the moment but i'm feeling really low. please somebody tell me something that'll make me smile.

Happy birthday KK's DD! What a shame about the postal strike. I know it's disappointing for you but at least she won't know anything about it this year.

I really don't think all this weather helps with feeling down. I think everyone is feeling it one way or another. DH is a GP and he says that he's having loads of depressed patients at the moment. He definitely blames the weather.

Maybe you should try the antidepressants, KK. Surely anything is better than feeling how you feel now. Bear in mind that they do take a couple of months to start working. I don't have anything funny to tell you, I'm afraid, but I am thinking of you. I wish I could help in a more concrete way

Don't hold out for boys names. We only agreed on DS's name two days before he was born!

Oh KK so sorry to hear that you don't feel you have the support you need from your family

Umm, ok funny things.............???????????

DH's suggestions inc:-
Our DD Giggles like a mad thing when you bounce one of those ball pit balls off her head!
She says 'at'at'at whenever she sees the cat but the other day, he is convince, she really said cat!
She can nearly sign dog, it looks more like the sign for hello or goodbye, but she knows what she means! Our indication is her squeals of delight when the dog walks in!
And, I know we should discourage it, but what a giggling comes out of her when she throws her dinner for the dog!

Those were the things that DH thought might bring a smile, not that we are obbsessed with our DD at all!!!!

I couldn't think on any jokes and anyway I am really bad at telling them!

Ooh! I could tell you a really crap one of my dads!
Wanna hear it!?
It really is guff!

hi. thanks for trying to cheer me up so go on what's the joke?

we gave dd2 ice cream today, she loved it but the faces she pulled made me laugh so hard.

this time last year was when i had to get into a wheelchair and see dd2 for the first time. i was in so much pain as i had a massive bleed after my cs because my womb had stopped contracting, the crash team was called and i had loads of doctors all around me with my legs wide open and they were forcing my womb to contract. anyways, dd2 was so tiny but as we were in the liverpool women's hospital there were smaller babies than her, some born at 23 weeks

dd2 was 3lb2 so she was a big girl for gestation. she was beautiful, there's a picture in my profile of when she was a few days old. her ears would fully fold in and would stay like that. she did well for coming out so early it was just all the infections she picked up through the long line that caused her to get ventillated and caused delays with her progress but she's fine now. it's really weird to think of both my girls being through poorly times, especially dd1. both of them have needed ventilation but despite what they've been through they're both doing well. i'm just hoping they'll always be happy.

felt a bit sad about this today. dd1 had a small cake with swipper from dora the explorer on it, she kept saying "dora, dora" because she recognised swipper. anyways she was happy just to look at it and kept repeating "dora, dora" so dp thought she isn't going to understand to eat this so he put a bit in her mouth and she freaked out, started screaming and smacking herself full on in the face. she spat it out and swipper was just mush so she started crying dp felt really guilty after that.

she did another thing to do with dora a few weeks back that was my fault. i bought her dora pyjamas and put her in them for bed. she was in bed by 8 but by 12.30 she was still up saying "dora, dora". oops, she was so tired the next day and it was my fault as i never thought it through. i think we're both going to have to start thinking a bit more about how dd1 is going to react to things like this.

kk - you are doing a fantastic job. Just think a lot of mum's wouldn't even be concerned about how you feel when she reacts like that and yet you are brave enough to post and tell us how you feel.
I looked at the photos on your profile. Your dd1 is a stunning girl, absolutely beautiful.
And your dd2 looks a very happy, contented baby. I know it'shard but try to hld on to what a great job you are doing. Try not to worry about your family too much, I know it's easier said than done, but it causes so much bitterness thinking what they could have done, should have done to help you. Is there anyway you could have a word and ask for some help over the summer, just until September?

KK - I honestly don't know how you must manage TBH, I have so much respect for you and other parents with SN children. I know in that situation you just have to cope but at one point with our first baby, DH and I had to face the possibility of being in that position and I fell apart inside. You're amazing and you and DH are doing your absolute best, don't let the odd mistake get you you down because overall you're doing a fantastic job. I just had a look at the pics on your profile - your DDs are so beautiful, especially DD1 with her gorgeous curls! If you need some support with them I can absolutely recommend Homestart - they've been wonderful with me so I'm sure they'll find time for you if they can.

I wonder if the thread's gone quieter because they're all mobile now and we have to spend more time looking out for them?

Something pretty funny happened here today - DS2 was playing with a little toy and dribbled on it, so he looked up at me and very seriously said 'oh dear!' - so cute from a 9 month old He's earned to wave too which is ever so sweet. [proud mummy glow]

Oh Wow! 9 months old and saying oh dear! How fab is that!?

Sorry for being dim and is it awful to ask what does SN mean?
I gathered from previous posts that it is a learning difficulty? am I right but can't figure out what it stands for
Sooo in awe of parents who ...manage, deal with, can't think on the right word. You are fab people. My Aunt was mentally disabled and I was always a little shocked by her outbursts, as a child, as an adult I managed a little better but still thought my grandparents were amazing the way they coped. They had 3 others (my dad inc) as well as my aunt so it was a busy house.

Anyway here is my dads Awful joke

The indians have taken three prisoners, an Englishman, and Scots man and a Irish man.
( I know! You're groaning already!)
So, they are going to kill them but they give each man a last request.
The English man says,'I would like a nice cup of English tea, to calm my nerves.'
He is duly given his tea and,..bop killed by a whack to the head.
He is then skinned and his body used to make a canoe.

The Scots man says,'I want a glass of the best malt before I die.'
He is given his whisky and ,...bop, another thump to the head before his body is used to make another canoe.

They turn to the Irish man,'What is your final request?'
'I want a fork.'
The indians look a bit confused but give him his fork.

The irish man starts stabbing himself with the fork saying,'Your not making a bloody canoe of me!!!'

grooooaaaannnn!
Told you it was guff!!!

GROANNNN!!! (have heard it before and tittered the 1st time )

SN = Special Needs (I'm hoping that's the PC term at the moment)

KK, echo what has been said...

I laughed at the joke, that's really sad isn't it?!!..

Well, today I have a day off...DH has taken the children to see some motor racing event up in Norfolk with BIL whilst I can do what I want.... I've just waved them goodbye (obviously trying to hide my excitement that I was going to have some time on my own for the first time in ages) & now I'm off back to bed with the papers, fresh coffee & the radio...bliss...

ooh Two for tea - my dd isn't mobile just yet. Well not fully yet. She backwards shuffles across the carpet and can now get up on all fours but hasn't made the leap into crawling.

a day off & I'm on MN...just can't keep me away.. J isn't crawling either..sort of bum shuffling but not really good on his feet & still howels if we put him on his tummy..such an incredible difference compared to DD

thanks everyone for your kind words.

dd1 just did one of the worst poos ever, it stuck to the nappy as i tried to shower the poo down the toilet so it's had to go into the washing machine by itself with poo on it still, yuck.

dd2 is crawling and is up against the furniture moving around, she can now safetly get herself back down from standing 98%of the time. she's lifting her leg up against the settee like she's trying to climb on to it already this is so different from dd1 who was almost 2 when she finally crawled. she understands lots of things already like i can ask her to come here and she'll come she has a fasination for socks and looks really cute having a sock in her mouth crawling around.

yesterday dp's foster family came around. they brought dp's foster mums niece with her twins and she kept commenting on how she does things and had everyone laughing at me for working so hard with the kids, like the fact that i've put my kids in reusable nappies and i give dd2 milk in between meals which she says makes life very hard as i'm contantly feeding but i'm not. she was saying her twins will take an ounce of milk with a meal and then they wake them up at 10 o'clock for a 6oz bottle, they sleep through until 6 and have a bottle then her mum comes around gives them breakfast and looks after them whilst she goes to work. so they're only getting 9 oz of milk in 24 hours whereas i give a bottle and breakfast together, then in between lunch i give another bottle, in between dinner another bottle then just before bed. she takes between 6 and 8 ounces at a time. i think my way is better or am i wrong?

i'm also really shocked that she's going back to work already, she was trying for over 5 years to have a baby and then on their first course of ivf she got pg. i would have thought she'd spend as much time with them as she could before she wanted to go back to work even though they're 6 months. it's not like they can't afford her to have more time off, it just seems really strange to me. they also have the twins stay over at her parents houses every other week so they can go out as a couple still whereas if i was going to go out i'd want somebody to come to my house then they're still in their own beds. maybe we just have completely different views on things and i shouldn't pass judgement but i'm really annoyed at how she made me look foolish for making my life so hard and spending every minute of the day looking after the kids.

sorry a bit of a long post with me moaning. i am feeling a bit happier at the moment though (hoest even though this post doesn't sound like it), just starting to panick now with moving house in two weeks.

KK..I honestly think your way sounds better but you know we all do things our way don't we & assume that it is the only right way to do them!!! We were with friends yday whose daughter was having her 3rd birthday party & they did lunch boxes & put mini packets of haribo sweets & chocolate biscuits in them...now, I am not ashamed to admit that I confiscated them as DD a) never eats sweets (although appreciate I can't keep that going forever!) & b) doesn't need at the age of 3 to consume a packet of chocolate animal biscuits in one sitting! You may think I am not fair game or a bit of a spoilsport but in my honest opinion I think it's better she doesn't have these things yet - however my friend doesn't bat an eyelid & teases me when I ask her to make a very weak squash for DD as again her kids have capri-sun etc . I guess when it comes to raising children we all have our own routines & quips & quirks & deep down we all think what we do is better wouldn't you say.. BTW is your DP still v friendly with his foster family? I was fostered between 11-18 & have chosen not to remain in contact since I was 19...(long story)

they get on well, she's there if he needs somebody to talk to. he's been through a lot of families but this was his last one so he's stayed a bit closer to them.

i'm similiar with sweets but i do let them have little tasters. i don't let my kids have juice but as dd1 has been around other children drinking juice i allow her to have it very weak. i have to worry more with her teeth as she's got cardiac problems although her teeth are lovely and white. around here a lot of children are having fillings on their milk teeth i've seen loads of small children with black teeth and it really annoys me although i know some might have health problems causing this not just a bad diet and poor hygiene.

i think i was just really annoyed how she pointed out her way of doing things constantly and it really got to me. especially when her 6 month old twins are only having 9oz of milk a day, it doesn't seem enough to me so why boast about it?

dd2 has a really sore bum, she's normally a poo machine and today she's had 6 poos already and i think a new tooth's coming through unless they've both got a little tummy bug as both their nappies have stunk more than usual.

9oz doesn't seem enough..I think they should be on at least 18oz...? Well..ignore them KK! YOU ARE DONG A GRAND JOB

KK - sounds like they're not getting enough milk TBH. DS's were both still having 30-40 oz per day at 6 months. DS2 still has 20-24 oz at 9 months. I like the idea of having a night off every two weeks though! . ABout once every 3 months or so we take ours to my parents and we use the opportunity to go to the cinema or for a meal but that's about it.

Compo - DS2 isn't crawling but he's still super mobile, combining bum-shuffling and rolling at present. I don't think crawling's far off and I'm making it my mission this week to crawl proof the lounge and put the baby gate on. We've gone for one of those roller blind type ones so hoping it works.

We're off to Kendal now for a free Jazz festival hope it's good!

ohhh have fun T42!!!