************DECEMBER 2006 - PART 3 ****************

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I was brave and started a new thread!

Oh Oli, if we lived nearer, I'm sure we would both be helping eachother with packing.

Did some sorting today

Right then.

Poo at not sleping on formula AQ

LFM, stupid hospital, they don't makeit easy do they!I hope your sleep is getting more relaxed again.

Eli, baby steps huh? Seems to be getting there bit by bit though.

Jabber I hope you've had some sleep.

Peace vibes to all the toddlers and extra hands and cardboard boxes to Oil and Margo.

Magnolia sinceds decided to refuse the only bottle he's ever taken last week my next step is going to be to try cup feeding! Its not like I actively want to be away from him (mostly!) but I wish I could confidently leave him when it can't be avoided.

Now have a scabbed over spot, a half scabbed over one and a shiny new one. Will ring Dr tom and see what they say. Last night woke at 1.30, refused to settle so fed, woke again at 4.45, settled again til 5.20 then woke at6. Fed him in bed thinking that was it for the day and he dropped off again til 7, fed a bit and slept again til 8. I like 8am sleep ins but not so keen on all the wakings! Need to keep up thedream feed for a bit longer but at th moment not making much difference though he clearly only actually needs one feed a night.

I also have the grumpiest baby in the world today even after sleeping til 8, napping betwen 10 and 11 (longest nap ever?) and a little luchtime nap. Of course he is now rubbishing me as I type and chattering away on my knee.

Here you all are - thought the thread looked quiet!

Will catch up later

Thanks for the kind thoughts, am gradually training my eye off the monitor.

hi all. grizzly, sleepy baby today. think her teeth are bothering her so i gave her some medised which has made her happy but even more sleepy. hope i'm not going to pay for it tonight

Magnolia, that sounds bl&&dy awful for your and for your dh. I think it's really hard if you can't go out for a few hours without worrying about them, I'll stop whinging now as ds will take a bottle quite readily, he just prefers it from the source...not that I can be bothered expressing anymore after my last attempt (a week to get 10 ounces, he drank 9 in one sitting). Indith, ditto, hope he takes one soon.

Eli, not sure if I responded about the allergies thing was that a few days ago? I'm keeping on with ds for the same reasons, all that I'd read indicated at least 6 months if there are allergies, but I just don't know how you've managed it thus far - will she just not take you, only happy with bottle after being in icu?

Hope the packing/moving going well margo & oli

good to know I'm not alone in persisting for allergies' sake, AQ - feel encouraged, somehow. She will still BF when first awake, and during the night - but recently even that has proved impossible due to the stuffed up nose. She has to sit up, and I sometimes pull the side of her nose to keep an airway open enough for her to breathe - she just gives up on the breast. Mostly, though, she's just got bottle-happy and gets pissed off with milk not coming faster via me

Indith, hats off on the work - also, sounds v interesting; I used to work with Deaf people, mostly voluntary and a bit of paid communication support, and the whole language acquisition thing fascinates me. Hope ds feels better tomorrow - wonder if the unsettledness today is pox-related? If it is pox, that is?

Margo and Oli, mega move-smoothing vibes to you both...I think moving house is akin to having a baby: you have to be far enough from the last time you did it to forget the stressful bits and face it again. All power to you both..

I've been a bit AWOL today - my mother is staying tonight, and is very anxious to help, but is very stressed, has stomach ache, and is anyway THE most unhelpful person in the universe - please wish me a reasonable night's kip in the name of avoiding matricide, until I get her on the Eurostar tomorrow morning

Magnolia, and all with teat-refusing babes...wonder if we could get dd to give them bottle-loving lessons in return for a bit of breast-acceptance?!

Wishing you all a quiet night and well behaved LOs...

Well tonight ds1 took 2oz of Formula dh thought it maybe that he was refusing b/m from a bottle so he tried a bit of formula and hey presto!
So how do i stop myself feeling so bloody guilty???

Hello! DS much better today, no flushedness, except dribble-rash and 3 dirty nappies! Constipation definitely gone and my smiley baby back !

morning.

gloria - glad the rash has gone.

well my dd was up 3 x last night so i'm shattered. now we're back off holiday mode though i'm hoping to get some routine back into things during the day which might lead to better nights.

my dd will still not take a bottle so we've stopped trying. DD1 took milk from a cup at 6 months and we hope to do the same with DD2. I have given up feeling resentful about 'no time off' as it just makes me depressed. Yesterday ihad to pop out and we were more confident DH could have DD as she was due some baby rice which he can give off a spoon and delay the breast feed....

they are all getting much bigger now arent they!!

Marginally better night:
bed at 8pm
feed at 10pm
feed at 12am
feed at 1:30 then sleep until 5:45
back to bed at 7am for an hour.
He's just so blooming unpredictable!

More packing and sorting for me today, it's un, fun, fun, here .

Oh Oli, I don't envy you one bit with the packing! Hope it all goes smoothly

Ds1 went to bed at 10pm, fed at 1.30am then slept till 6am so getting better.

My poor doggy has to go to the vets today think she's got something stuck up her nose!!! Was bleeding last night and now she keeps wandering round the kitchen trying to blow her nose

Good luck with the packing Oli.

Don't feel guilty Magnolia!

Glad DS is better Gloria.

Hope you survived the night Eli without resorting to matricide My DM begs to come and 'help' (always on her terms mind as I mentioned in my other post) and then it's like having another child in the house! If she stays the night, she gets up really late, has a nap in the day, then spends the rest of the time moaning about how tired she is!!! Sadly, I don't think she has a clue how to look after kids as we were palmed off with a nanny or grandparents, then packed off to boarding school as soon as humanely possible. I remember her spending the whole of every holiday saying "I can't wait until you go back to school". And now, she spends the whole time saying "my family are so important to me". Maybe she just had us to look after her in her dotage

Hope everyone had a good weekend. Now I have DD2 'on solids' so to speak, she won't bl***y well stop 'asking' for more Yes, they are getting big GS. I dread to think what DD2 weighs but my back is suffering from lugging her around.

Oh bless your doggy Magnolia. I remember when mine got a bone lodged horizontally across the roof of her mouth once. She wondered around shaking her head trying to dislodge it until we took her to the vet.

Hallo all ...

Had a bit of messy night !..ds slept from 10.30 - 3am feed , resettled but only to wake up 10mins later screaming beacuse he had thrown up all over himself & bed ..so changed him& bed in a dazed mode ..resettled him then woke up again for a feed at 4.15am, in middle of feed, he threw up all over me & my bed !!and so again changed him again and resettled him at 5am -till 7.15 wake for day. God what was all that about just as when he was doing so well - he slept for 9hrs on sat night !!

As to bottle feeds- hes slowing making effort to drink from the bottle (EBM & formula),only about 3-4oz each time , and his hysterics are decreasing each time . Dont give up hope Magnolia - just remember babies wont starve themselves .

Indith - well done on getting yr essay done - if u dont mind me asking - what are you studying ? I am deaf myself , my dh & dc are all hearing hence your subject interests me

Hope all the packing is going well for you Margo & Oli , youre very brave to do it with a baby in hand !

Gloria - glad to hear your lo is happier

Coco - hugs. I hate it when they throw up a) cos they are not on form, and you want to protet them from everything and b) all that wasted milk!
I woke up 6 times last night between 11 and 7. Got up 4 times to tend to ds (1 feed), I think he woke me but I left him as he was then quiet another time, and then just as I was getting off to sleep dh woke me up with his snoring! I think sofa for me tonight after his 10pm feed.
We did a charity orienteering walk yesterday with ds in the front pack - and came 2nd! Maybe he was waking as he didn't enjoy the Chablis that we won in his 10.30 feed . I did think it only fair to share with him though as he was part of the team

Well done Sacha for coming 2nd in the walk !- you deserved to have that Chablis - no harm indulging (sp?!) yourself - my vice at the mo is Galaxy ripple chocs !(DH bought a pack of 10 mini ones on sat - oppps nearly gone )

Well done Sacha!

Magnolia I've heard this from others that they will only take BM from the source but will take formula from a bottle. Ds only took a bottle with formula though never got him to take more than 3oz (and he seems to have totally forgotten that he ever did take a bottle now . Anyway don't feel guilty the odd bottle of formula to allow you a bit of freedom isn't going to negate all the good BF stuff

Coco I do a random assortment! That particular essay is for a module on language acquisition in exceptional circumstances so covers a range of things such as Downs Syndrome, Autism etc as well as deaf children of hearing parents (and could incidently include hearing children of deaf parents depending on whether you speak or sign with them)

DS may or may not have chicken pox. Thanks Doctor! Looks like pox but not enough spots and not in the right place apparently but since it might be act like it is so no bumps and babies for us tomorrow Goodbye my little piece of weekly sanity. Not that that is the Dr's faultmor the pox that might not be but probably is fault

Ds woke at 1.20 and 4.30 last night, each time tried to settle without a feed and failed.He did then sleep until 7.15 though which was nice.

Still this means that I have a baby who used to feed at 1 and 4.30/5 without a dream feed and a baby who seems to feed at 1.30 and 4.30 with a dream feed at 10. Anyone else see the inconsistency? First night we did it he resettled without feeds easily, second night text book, third fed at 1.30 only but very restless from 4.30 onwards now has to be fed. Suppose should give it a bit longer but tempting to just quit and accept the wakings I had before and hop he will extend things when he is ready. If I were on maternity leave and could do without the sleep (no offence to any of you but you know what I mean) then I could persist but I'm getting up more than I was with 2 feeds and exams fast approaching!

Well I can cope with the lack of sleep (just) but am really struggling with a baby that NEVER wants to be put down, she just screams and screams, am currently sat one handed typing.

She was happy for 10-15 min under baby gym / mobile till last week, but now she likes nothing, I am failing to get anything done and its driving me potty, the only time shes happy is at bumps and babes while there are other babies to watch...

Ideas anyone please??

Hi WB, DD2 is the same! I'm finding it quite hard too. I just move her about and hold her A LOT. She seems to quite like it in the pram in the garden but I have to be visible. Have you had her medication (she's a reflux baby, yes?) upped according to her weight gain?

How are you feeling otherwise?

Also, some babies just aren't happy until they get moving. I think we might have two of them

I'm another one with a baby who demands t be held or be in motion ! I feel like i'm forever rocking him and my arms are going to drop off soon !He will sit in his bouncer for 15-20mins as long I'm enteraining him ie flashing his toys /or let him suckle on them !

Coco - I read that at first as Galaxy NIPPLE chocs - was feeding at the time though.

Lol at Sacha !

well done sacha.

my dd is ok in 10 minute bursts on her own but am often pacing the house looking for things to do with her.