March 2007 - All present and correct now

[LunarSea]

Morning all - new thread as the old one's about to hit the 1000 posts limit.

Not so great this morning - feel like an egg-bound chicken IYSWIM. Grrr - especially as I managed to avoid it all the way through pregnancy. And not sure if there's anything I can take for it while I'm feeding?

Kiwi, what's this 'get things done' business then ?

I am now feeding the DCs their food on strips of bounty kitchen roll because I'm fed up of loading and unloading the dishwasher up to 5 times a day

Muppet, hope you manage a bit of me time today

Chocpenny, Ronnie is a month old tomorrow and and can count on the fingers of one hand how many times he has gone for 2 hours without feeding.
He normally won't go more than half an hour between feeds not great, but it'll get better. Still, it's helping me to lose weight

Mossie, watch those emotions of yours, go and see a doc if you feel you're getting too low xx

Foxy, did you get the email I sent to the new address? (getting paranoid emoticon)

I'll see if I can find a picture of max Wall. Actually Freddie Starr also did an impersonation of max Wall. Personally I can't stand either of them .

max Wall

right.obviously before my time

i just went to the 'nice' play area,by the museum,with the dcits quite out of the way and the,ahem,more repsectable people actually take their children there(rather than the children of the dont give a crap brigade going there on their own and being little s**ts).i was walking round with dd2,trying to show her that walking is fun.shes 17 months now and i know if shes not walking by her 18m check the HV will start going on about observation blah di blah.

when i came back dpwas tidying upstairsnow im paranoid he read my post on that 'things you want to say to your oh but dont' thread.

kitty-what does loose weight mean??

Kitty... I stupidly took on some extra responsibilities because I was going to be "at home". Don't know what I was thinking... maybe that I would be lazing around with an idyllic child. Oh yeah, I am .

Diva... I have been out for afternoon tea with the girlies (the liquid kind - brilliant) and what hubs has achieved in the short time I have been gone is more than I can do in a week .

oh that's a good idea about the kitchen roll...

will check my hotmail kitty

max wall

Just spent 90 minutes getting new windscreen wipers fitted outside Halfords (poor Halfords man was soaked by the end of it) and 90 minutes at "Tesco Mecca" in Osterley (where west londoners go to worship).

How stressful shoppping with 3 kids between 7weeks and 7 years old.

Don't know how you lot manage more than three I really don't.... best behaved was Monti...

Foxy, do all the shoppers at the mecca wear Boden? I'm trying to imagine it now!!

I have spent the entire day tidying up and tidying up again , get a life Kitty .

Kiwi, liquid lunch eh ?

anyone else frazzled then after 3 days of full on kids and husband 9- not sure whichis more trouble
we went ot see my g dad yesterday and it was v stresful, em cried the whole way (dirty nappy then hungry so we had to stop twice), then not much fun in nursing home, as you can imagine, and my poor gdad was upset as well
knackered today
mossie - take care of yourself! do you have people on hand to take bertie out for a bit of a walk even if it's just to give you a break from the crying? have you tried a pouch sling btw? it can be very calming and if nothing else they kind of sink to the bottom of it so the cryng is a bit muffled . you live not too far from me I think (bolton) so give me a shout if you fancy meeting up as well, even if it's just for another pair of hands to walk bertie around for a bit
anyone else get soaked today??

Kitty - thanks for your e-mail, just sent you one back

No they don't wear Boden most of the shoppers are Asian families, as its quite near Southall. The shop is huge - over two floors with those moving conveyer belt things like an airport.

They stock just about everything you could possibly think of - apart from Boden clothes

I now have the miracle cure for Monti's bleeding and infected nappy rash. Oats in my tights in his bath/water I wash his bum with. Started it yesterday and the rash has suddenly shrunk to nothing - absolutely amazing!!! Found it on a MN search

Oats are amazing! I used to hang a sock of them over the tap when i ran a bath so the water ran through it to help my dd's eczema when she was little... super stuff!

Morocco I didn't know you were in Bolton! Dh used to work at Bolton council... it would be lovely to meet up, maybe in Wigan it's half way between by train... but I can't make any promises to anyone at the moment, I just don't seem to be able to get out of the house for longer than about twenty mins without Bertie having a scream session...

Today though has not been as bad, but I am loathe to assume anything from that!

Foxy glad Monti's sorely bum is better!

Kitty I'm going to the dr tomorrow or Wednesday, as I am not sure where to draw the boundaries between just "normal" sleep deprivation and dealing with crying baby type of emotions, and something a bit more. Dh thinks I have depression (based on his personal experience iyswim) but I have never had it before so I don't know, to me, I just feel very hormonal.

God this sounds so silly, but now Bertie has been better with naps today, I'm now paranoid tonight's going to be a mare!

Ffs! I'm a right plonker aren't I?

Hope everyone else has enjoyed the bank hols xxx

yup, Morocco - got wet doing the shopping and loved it . One thing I miss is good rain .

Kitty - not a liquid lunch even... went for coffee with a friend but I felt like apple pie so we went to a pub. No apple pie on the menu but I did have a scrummy dessert and a couple of glasses. It did the world of good.

Amazed by the tips using oats - any kind of oats?? Glad that it's helping Monti's bot.

Mossie - so lovely to see you back and fabulous that today has been a bit better. Fingers crossed that it will last

Hello all

I've been reading but too knackered/depressed to post as it's all gone a bit pear-shaped with me taking LO down to see my parents again - that'll be the last time for a while I reckon. Endless crying/waking up every 1.5 hrs/wind. Can anyone explain to me how a baby can go to sleep without any winding at all during the day and yet get such bad wind at 3am that they're up burping and crying for 2 hours after a 20 min feed? It's a mystery.

I ended up telling my mum we wouldn't be able to come and stay for a bit as it was just too stressful and now she's all upset. Aarrgh!

But I've had a lovely bank holiday with my friends who all exclaimed over the beauty and perfection of Elliot. That combined with a few beers has made me feel a lot better

I swore I wouldn't start drinking on my own in the evenings and now I've got a glass of wine next to me . I had no idea how much I'd need one at the end of the day!

Can I ask you experienced mothers a couple of questions please?

• Elliot's started kicking and sort of fighting when I'm feeding him. Is this because there isn't enough milk? Or is he just excited?
• When do you start putting the pushchair back up so they're not lying flat?
• Did anyone else's baby go hoarse from too much yelling? I don't leave him cry

I'm so glad that there are so many mums on this thread that have done it before - it's really reassuring. I'm also glad I'm not the only first timer. Our thread is the best I'm sure

Glad you sorted monti's nappy rash foxcub - that's a good tip

Mossie - hope you're feeling a bit better. I've posted on your other thread.

Better go - elliot's yelling again - it's taken me about an hour and a half this evening to try to get him to go to sleep

Hi folks, hope everyone has survived the bank holiday

Not much to report here, right nip is still mangled and I am due to call the BFC tomorrow

DD is 6 weeks now and going slightly longer between feeds so I'm down to about 8 feeds per 24 hrs. I dug out my notebook from DS and it appears by 10 weeks he was down to 6 feeds so it will improve

Sazzy - not flat in pushchairs is from 3 mths I think

sazzy-i have the pushchair back up from about 6 weeks but i think officially they are meant to lay flat till about 3 months or something?or is it when they can hold their head up?ha-i have had 5 kids,honest,and none of them have back problems

muppet-what do you do with the oats for excema?dd2 has it pretty bad on her back,but i dont want to use steroid cream.

kitty-i havent resorted to kitchen roll but i have resorted to microwave food a number of times now.i felt really awful about such things yesterday but since hearing about those children in s.london i just think,well,i know im not perfect but at least im not neglecting/abusing my children

mossie/morocco-maybe we can have a mini meet up at some point in the future?i know im quite far away but the train goes direct to mcr airport,through wigan i think.i really need to escape from this town sometime in the next few months as im going stir crazy.

am getting at your planned mini-meet...

The oats are just porridge oats in the foot of my tights My pharmacist also said its fab for ecsma too [sp???}

I started putting Monti's chair up to about 45% last week as he now can't stand lying flat - he wants to look around. His neck is really strong now.

Diva - has Elsie changed a lot the last couple of weeks? Monti is now demanding to be held or sat so he can watch everything. His feeding is suddenly a lot quicker now too - I keep checking to see if he's really finished a feed as its so quick since he had his growth spurt.

...sorry I forgot who said what and Monti is having a little moan in the background, which is distracting me when all I really want is a beer....

Diva - that's so sad isn't it about those children - there's been such desperately sad news this weekend

Sazzy, bloody hell I have a drink EVERY night. The thought of it gets me through the evening's chaos. matbe I'm truning into an alcoholic . Still I reckon no one would blame me .

Sorry you had a bad time with your mum though. What happened? Was she too interfering/ criticising etc?
Ronnie waves his fistts and legs around when he's latching on and I have to tuck his arms in .
he also HATES lying flat so is propped up in his chair at home and push chair.
He's sounded hoarse from day one, don't know why!

Foxy, really glad the oats helped, think I'll give that a go with dd2 and dd3 as their eczema is terrible atm. That tescos sounded amazing. I want to go to one!

TheBlonde hope you get your nip sorted out, must be really painful

im finding Elsie is happier to sit in her chair looking around now than she was a few weeks ago,and she loves watching dd2 and dd1,she gives really big smiles when she sees them.her whole face lights up when she sees dp though

Diva.........

Theblonde - my nips have got sore again too - a couple of frazzled latches with two kids jumpng up and down and its back to square one on the nip front. Good luck with the BFC.

Forgot to mention (you reminded me Kitty) Monti also waves his arms around and kicks and scrunches his legs when I'm trying to latch him on. He also grabs my delicate nips with his long scratching fingernails (ouch!). I've never understood this and assumed it was a mixture of excitement/hunger and/or wind

oats are a good tip, emily has nappy rash from sitting on a dirty bum yesterday in the car and she's got horrid exzema on her face all of a sudden as well so I'll give it a go tomorrow. I remember doing it with ds2 - also when oldder, their normal cream with lavender and rose in is good for eczema

where are you based diva? i didn't know you were up north as well - honestly though, my memory is terrible!

am watching snooker (enforced!) how dull can a 'sport' be??

v impressed, theblonde btw at your diary! if I evr wrote down how many times em feeds it would be horrific I'm sure, today must have been abou 8 times already and it's not night yet, but I never pay much attention to the poor lamb so it doesn't seem too bad. early days are pretty rubbish really

kitty-why ?

morocco-i'm in barrow-in-furness,cumbria.have been to bolton many times,i lived in eccles for a while and used to get the bus to the market quite often.

do your babies fit in their push chairs?? We have one that the car seat fits in to but I tried Kate lying down in hers recently and the straps were massive on her. As much as I liked the idea of one which I could use the car seat with, the reality it is a pita to get it all together when I am only using the buggy.

Mossie, glad you're ok and survived the weekend - it does not take much to put new mums into the depression area, it (sleep deprivation, screaming babies, the worry) screws with your head big time and you don't know if you're safe unti you get into normal mode to see if it remains.
You are doing an amazing job keeping it together, go easy on yourself, hope beyond hope the LLL lady is your magic wand.

Well another 24 hrs in the divine baby stakes...lulls me into thinking oooh maybe just another one then.

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