March 2007 - All present and correct now

[LunarSea]

Morning all - new thread as the old one's about to hit the 1000 posts limit.

Not so great this morning - feel like an egg-bound chicken IYSWIM. Grrr - especially as I managed to avoid it all the way through pregnancy. And not sure if there's anything I can take for it while I'm feeding?

Poor Elsie Diva, you must be worried. Aren't the drs concerened?

Dd2 goes to preschool until 1pm for 4 days, She's September born so sadly isn't due to start schol until NEXT year . We'll all be foaming at the mouth by then

ds2 turns 4 on july 23rd and starts infants in septemberthats what you call good timing

ditto

cruisy Kate has been a nightmare today - crying constantly and wanting to be cuddled. She did have her immunisations this morning so I wonder (hope -fingers crossed) if that is the reason. I've just been for dinner with my work mates ( now dreading going back - another story) and hubs looks shattered. Nothing done in the house so my elation was short lived.

Piffle... that sounds just like likkle miss 11yo now!!

Poor thing is so stressed about these bloody SATS. She has given her dad a rough time tonight because of the "pressure" she is under. Welcome to the real world, lil one .

All those with crying babies - oh thank god it's not just me. Jordi mainly has three modes atm - sleeping, crying, feeding. He cries to be fed - or rather screams - finishes feeding and starts screaming after most of them. Why? Still hungry? Wind? Colic? Doing mother's head in? Or - could he be teething? I'm still nowhere near understanding what his cries mean apart from occasionally thinking one is definitely wind pain. On the plus side though, for the past three nights he has slept for SIX hours in a row - weehaa!!!! Although last night, he then followed it up with three hours awake from 4 till 7... oh well. And he has started smiling properly which is darling.

Diva - Jordi has been through phases of feeding every two hours in little bits. I think he still would now if I fed him every time he cried! He does sleep through most of the afternoon but the mornings and evenings are hard work usually. Saying that, he's slept all this evening, so just when I think I'm getting him sussed, it all changes.

All those with boys about 6-8 weeks old, how heavy are they now? I had J weighed last Wed and he was 12lb 7oz!!!! He's huge! It's truly frightening how fast he's growing. I miss his little sculpted face, which is now hidden beneath hamster cheeks and double chin. I just hope it will return one day.

sorry to be dim buts whats this af you mention.... am worried its a new thing to worry about...
am trying v hard to lose weight, have lost 2 stone since birth 6 weeks ago, need to lose 3 to get back to normal. doc told me its ok to exercise now, so will have to up my hours pram walk a day. Dp works all day and in evenings so no time to go swimming etc. can't see myself jogging with pram
have been wearing dp shirts -he thinks its sexy- poor soul has no idea its 'cos I can't get into any of my own clothes and need to wash my maternity ones.
i drove for the first time today since sept -ok, except forgot had undone jeans so I could bend and stood chatting to estate agent flashing my giant pants and flabby tummy

diva who are your new neighbours? hope they are nice, and hi everyone as well

hiya foxy

well had an okay night - dd3 went down about 10ish and woke at 3am for a feed - thought that was good - got some sleep BUT then she decided it was play and awake time and grizzled and cried until after 5am!! I finally put in her bed beside me - sorted our duvet etc to as not to smother her and scooted over to dh's side. Was woken again at 6.15 hearing the older two dds playing and chatting in their room.

She is a lot more lively now and that is lovely to see. SHe loves being near the doors so she can look out. We put her in her vibrating rocking chair and she just watches the world go by.

Dd2 now attends playgroup and loves it although yesterday some little sod felt it was okay to target her amongst a group of kids and stab her very hard in the bum with a plastic knife. I let the first time slide BUT when he did it the second time - I had to say something. Don't know which one was his mum but don't care - poor wee dd2 was looking at me as if to say why is he doing that to me?? But she loves it - playing, singing, story time and being able to do craft/pictures to bring home like dd1 does.

better get sorted and scoot off to speech therapy with dd1 and then it is off to swimming lessons.

off to see gp next week for my 6 week checkup and then off to gym to take up membership again and get working on my spare tyre!! Wish I could jsut cure my insatiable appetite for choc at the moment. I love choc but it is almost like a compulsion to have it at the moment

music your babies like listening too:

dd3 was just really restless the other day so I put on some Andrea Bocelli - it worked to calm my other two down at times... and she loved it - calmed down and then went to sleep by the second song.

what have you found works with your babes?

Sponge - AF= menstruation.
Sounds like you are doing great on the weight loss

My eating willpower evaporated once the bf went wrong so I am back on biccies and cakes.

Eids - is your DH back tomorrow?
Not really tried music with the baby yet - she has one of the Tiny Love mobiles that plays classical and that's it so far

Instead I am trying music to wean the toddler off the TV. His current fave is Shakira

yes the blonde we are getting him from the airport tom night around 7pm! so late night 4 the dds then - might get a sleep in fri - doubt it.

both older dds been a bit trying today - not helped that i am feeling really tired. slack mum i am - the had mcdonalds 4 lunch today - am making up 4 it by giving them steamed veges for dinner

Eidsvold you are very concsientious. I frequently fail on the food front. They often will only eat their potatoes (obviously irish blood ) so I give them a spoonful of tonic. I love it when I've managed to cook a healthy dinner and they eat it all...goal!

Spongecake lol at you flashing your belly Well done with the weight loss () power walking with the pram is good which Foxy seems to be doing a bit of! I have a yogalates dvd but haven't looked at it yet But I will!

Dh surprised me and arrived last night. By yesterday evening I was so worn out and couldn't get the children off to bed..ended up being cross which I hate...but they both slept through! And Hasan went from 10.30 to 3 and then 4 to 7. Dh arrived 3ish. It was a good night! thank goodness...I was starting to go off me rocker with crap sleeps. Still feel tired of course!

Hoping to go to Donegal this weekend!

Hi all, sorry I've not been around for weeks, I do think about you all and wonder how everyone is getting on! ALl going well here although the last few days I have been seriously struggling with feeding (started a thread in the feeding bit if anyone can add any advice).

...going back to the beginning of this thread - Lunar, apple juice always works for me (first thing in the morning on a empty stomach is the best), if you are bfeeding and have a constipated baby it also works for them (if you drink it).

Mossie, how are things going? I don't want to add to your advice becaues I guess you have had most of it, thought about it or maybe it will confuse you more but just some thoughts. Bertie may be unsettled because he has wind, is he burping at all after a feed?
When he feeds is he really feeding? can you hear him gulping or see him swallowing? If not the he is just a sucky baby sucking for comfort.
The dummy is not an evil thing, it is a comforter and a sanity saver for you. You will enjoy him a lot more if he's not exhausting you. In Switzerland people are very surprised and almost disgusted if your baby doesn't have a dummy to help calm them down. My aunt says that in the UK dummies have such a bad image because in their day when people were told only to feed their babies every 4 hours the dummies were strapped into their mouths to keep them quiet. The thing is to give a sucky baby something to suck on if and when they want it.

Callie, the dts are also real fatties, dh won't stop going on about how fat they are, they have michelin man thighs and their eyes are disappearing under chipmunk cheeks !

...OK, my time is up for now !

Hiya - nice to see you Leo

How are your beautiful twins?

Sorry, but quick posts again as Monti is yowling

Callie - no idea how heavy Monti is as its impossible atm to get him weighted (HV only available 1.30-3.30pm which I cannot do...) but he's suddenly gor really huge and is only just fitting his 1-3 months clothes. QWill get out his 3-6 months soon.

Kitty - oh you poor thing - IKWYM about looking back and thinking "this week is miles better than last week" but you have got your hands full there!!

Don't know what to suggest..

Morphine?

My DD starts school in Sept, currently at pre school two full days plus three mornings (the pre school suggested she do two full days to give me a bit of a break when Monti arrived, which is very kind of them)

Hope everyone is OK

Mossy and theblonde, how are the boobies?

oh BTW Diva, I just got called "potty mouth" on my other thread, for saying:

I am going to start a thread called "fuck off, I can't do links"

So many messages since I last posted! Don't you ladies have anything else to do? I'm well impressed, I've only the one and I can barely get on here!

Quick update... dh is having a really shit time at work atm with the local elections to work with alongside all his own work... he is trying his best to get out of work on time or early every day to help with Bertie and his boss told him yesterday he had a lack of dedication.

Mil is being a star and helping where she can...

...I know I keep promising I'll reply properly... but now Bertie is yowling again! Will try to come back later, mil's going to take him for an hour today while I get stuff sorted out round here.

Well, GP yesyerday gave me Metonium or whatever its called for Monti's bum and said the swab came back clear for Monti's tummy button i.e.e its not infected, just smelly. So I said "shoudl I wash it more then?" and GP saod "No, just leave it alone"

Can everyone please sniff their baby's tummy button and tell me is Monti the only one with an errrm, personal problem of this kind?

Hope it clears up by the time he gets his first girlfriend (i.e. 25 if I have anything to do with it )

Mossy - how dare his boss say that when he has a newborn baby at home???

A Mum at the school yesterday (the spoilt princess who had been stalking me) said, "are you finding it relaxing being at home then?" ?

She's probably never changed a nappy by the looks of her nails (mioawww )

Callie, Hasan is a chubby chop too.

Leo will check out your thread.

Fox Hasans belly button is ok but one ear still a bit minky. It's the outer ear and behind it...been putting off the dr. Haven't washed him yet this morning and it looks like cradlecap on his ear hopefully his ear will also be fine by the time he is 25.

foxy - dd2 had a whiffy belly button - also was a little red - gp told me to get something called 'cord spirit' - think it is like surgical spirits - worked wonders - dried her bb out and stopped it getting whiffy again. i still have it somewhere - will look up the proper name when dd3 has finished feeding.

getting a bit annoyed with myself - been able to express tonnes a week or so ago - dh used up when i have been out or to let him feed dd3 - and so this week when I am off to the theatre on the weekend and want to have a store built up for dh - bloody 3 ounces so far!!!! little monkey seems at her hungriest around the time i will be out - looks like she might end up with some formula. have until sunday lunchtime to see what i can squeeze out

mossy-i will tell you a secret.the more babies you have the less guilty you feel about ignoring them and going on the computer.ds1 used to take up more of my time on his own than all 5 do now

about your dh's work.

Elsie is alot better today,shes feeding better and more awake.dd2,however,is now ill,so im going to take her to the docs and see if she will have a look at her and just give me something for Elsie's eyes again.

sponge-i spent ages wondering what af was,then somebody else asked on another thread.it stands for auntie flo apparantly

fox-Elsie has an outy belly button so i shouldnt think it will be prone to smelling.i do hope you're enjoying your relaxing time with your baby,who of course never cries,doesnt need feeding,and doesnt poo or wee.and i assume you have a housemaid who does all the other jobs around the house!

what thread did you get called potty mouth on?

Eidsvold I do sympathise on the expressing, I find it really difficult...Hasan is refusing the bottle though now...It all seems too complicated!

Diva hope you get results from the dr and the girls are better soon.

fox stop being red headedly stubborn and do a link! Find something on google that you like. press copy on its description thingy, then come out back to add message and press paste then type \link{ in front of it and \whatever} at the end. That's what I do anyway really slowly as I am a total technophobe.

Laidback get you with your Beltain celebration! Toasted marshmallows sound lovely but surely a few 'shrooms and a big spliff are more appropriate to the hippy lifestyle?

Piffle I think I am doing something wrong with the sling because as soon as I put him in he cries! He prefers the babycarrier, but of course you can't feed in it... still it frees up a hand to get on with stuff...

Diva / Rosy - you should have said about the I can make you thin CD - if you could cope with it on your conscience I downloaded all the mp3 files and could have emailed them over or burned them to a CD ... I did it just before I got pg as I was hoping to lose some weight... and then I got pg and thought "f* it I'll just eat now"!! I hadn't realised it was that CD you were talking about, sorry!

Kiwibella I am taking mil's help now... it's weird, I keep thinking I'm taking the p* but she said she has waited years and years to have a grandchild and she wants to spend loads of time with him even if he is bawling!

Foxy I have phoned the NCT breastfeeding line a couple of times... got some good help, although some of it is confusing as well... if it is all right with you though I will take your friend's number just in case... I just get so paranoid I'm not doing it right, even though he is weeing and pooing and everything...

Sazzy I'm impressed with Elliot going to sleep by himself! Wish I could get Bertie to settle without feeding him or cuddling him to sleep, he cries something awful if he is put down to sleep on his own. Stil, time will change that I hope!

Kitty you have a lot on your plate, is there anyone who can give you a hand? I am glad you are feeling a bit better in yourself though.

Diva I hope Elsie is okay.

Callie "Jordi mainly has three modes atm - sleeping, crying, feeding. He cries to be fed - or rather screams - finishes feeding and starts screaming after most of them. Why? Still hungry? Wind? Colic? Doing mother's head in" Bertie is exactly the same atm. I am slowly learning ways to settle him that don't involve letting him nibble on my boob. Sometimes he will take a dummy, will Jordi?

Spongecake AF is your period, it comes from Auntie Flo (as in menstrual "flow")

Eids Bertie likes Seven Nation Army by the White Stripes - it doesn't make him sleep but it does settle him. Is he already turning into an indie kid?

The Blonde how are your poorly norks now?

Leo thanks, yes I am burping him now after feeds too, one of the things the NCT woman suggested, also it is good to hear that about the dummy, I have read so many things about how it affects your supply and how it's not fair and you should just let him suck on your boob for comfort and blah blah blah... everything seems so geared up to make you feel guilty!!

Foxy what is your other thread?

Yes, it was awful of his boss to say that. Actually his boss even asked him to be a presiding officer at the election, he has only ever done polling work before, so this would involve learning a new skill in a matter of days whilst doing his other work, and then on the night of the election getting into work at eight and then staying up all night until the election finished and the votes were counted (3am? Later?) and coming home to be greeted by a crying newborn.

Dh reckons his boss is a bit because he had three weeks off for paternity leave / holiday... and now he still dares to want to spend time with his new born son. F*ing smeghead

Anyway going to go and get on with some stuff now as mil's taken Bertie for an hour / hour and a half until his next feed.

Sorry, didn't realise that was so long!

(As the bishop said to the actress )

mossie a dummy was godsend with dd2 - there were times that she needed to wait and sucking ont he dummy let her have that sensation and then I could sort her out - sometimes dd1's needs took over - sad but true.

DH and I were fervent anti dummy people and dd1 never had one - although she loved her thumb ( and still does) But with dd2 - it was our sanity saver and worked wonders. Dd1 would never take one though.

TBH I swear it took a good six weeks to crack it with dd2 - it was like she was my first as I had never fed dd1 and in fact my milk never really came in. I am just thankful I had my sil on the other end of a phone line to ask daft questions to regarding what is 'usual' for children - my experience had until dd2 only been as the mother of a child with special needs.

dd3 needs that suck to comfort her BUT refuses to take a dummy!!

It did take us a little stretch to get dummy from dd2 - she has just given it up - to the dummy fairies who gave her a stuffed little cuddly dog to take to bed. Having said that dd2 used her dummy to go to sleep and when she was very distressed - seemed happy to do without it other times. we had a couple of sob sessions re the dummy and now - right as rain.

it is works and provides bertie with what he needs than go ahead.

Mossy text me your number on 07902 208 803

hee hee my west London posse telling me off and posting me some links to very naughty kiddies t shirts with rude words on

fecking cheek!

Eids - thanx would like to try that cord spirit stuff

Rosy - Monti has masses of cradle cap. tried to oil and comb it out last night but his ickle scalp is too soft (aaawww). When the sun hits it you can see all the scaly bits (..nice)

Diva - so true what you say about feeling less guilty - I would maintain that MN keeps me sane. I felt a lot more islotated with DS1 as a newborn, pre-MN!