Feb '06 - thread one billion and something...

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CAMERON, Birthdate 6th Jan, Due 28th Jan, Weight 5lbs 13oz, Born to Teuch, Baby no 1, Lives Inner Hebridean Island, Gas & air and morphine
PEYIA, Birthdate 23rd Jan, Due 4th Feb, Weight 6lbs 12.5oz, Born to TicTac, Baby no 1, Lives Horwich, Lancs, Gas & air only
ALEXANDER, Birthdate 24th Jan, Due 4th Feb, Weight ??, Born to Yeahbut, Baby no 3, Lives Holland, Elective c-section
CAITLIN ERIN MONICA, Birthdate 25th Jan, Due 10th Feb, Weight 8lbs 10.5oz, Born to Womba1, Baby no 3 (1 stillborn), Lives Eastbourne, Elective c-section
MAISIE, Birthdate 26th Jan, Due 7th Feb, Weight 8lbs 5.5oz, Born to ellenrose, Baby no 3, Lives Bristol, Induction due to SPD
JESSICA HELEN, Birthdate 30th Jan, Due 9th Feb, Weight 5lbs 11oz, Born to JuA, Baby no 2, Lives Chorley, Lancs, Elective c-section. Twin 1.
EMILY ROSE, Birthdate 30th Jan, Due 9th Feb, Weight 6lbs, Born to JuA, Baby no 2, Lives Chorley, Lancs, Elective c-section. Twin 2.
T, Birthdate late Jan, Due 18th Feb, Weight 6lbs 13.5oz, Born to ChasingSquirrels, Baby no 2, Lives Cambridgeshire, Unassisted homebirth with no pain relief.
ELIZABETH GRACE, Birthdate 3rd Feb, Due 3rd Feb, Weight 8lbs 5oz, Born to Kando, Baby no 3, Lives Holland,
PETER, Birthdate 6th Feb, Due 12th Feb, Weight 7lbs 9oz, Born to popmum, Baby no 2, Lives Herts,
LAUREN EMMA, Birthdate 6th Feb, Due 22nd Feb, Weight 6lbs 14oz, Born to Morgan, Baby no 2, Lives Dubai,
PHILIPPA ROSE, Birthdate 8th Feb, Due 2nd Feb, Weight 9lbs, Born to CSWS (Tabs), Baby no 1, Lives North Herts, TENS and gas & air
LEWIS JAMES, Birthdate 9th Feb, Due 31st Jan, Weight 9lbs 2oz, Born to PhoenixGirl (Cuffyj1/lewsmummy), Baby no 1, Lives Barnsley, emerg c-section
SETH PETER, Birthdate 9th Feb, Due 1st March, Weight 7lbs, Born to angedemarche (Jangus), Baby no 2, Lives NI, Elective c-secion
EVIE HARRIET, Birthdate 10th Feb, Due 29th Jan, Weight 9lbs, Born to Hotmama, Baby no 2, Lives Nottingham, emerg c-section
RHUARIDH GEORGE, Birthdate 11th Feb, Due 20th Feb, Weight ??, Born to MrsDoolittle, Baby no 2, Lives Newbury, Water birth
BEN, Birthdate 12th Feb, Due 2nd Feb, Weight 8lbs 4oz, Born to 3K, Baby no 1, Lives Gravesend, Kent, c-sec after failure to dilate sufficiently
OSCAR, Birthdate 12th Feb, Due 13th Feb, Weight 9lbs 10oz, Born to Chloe55, Baby no 1, Lives West Yorkshire, Pethidine, epi & lots of stitches!
LUTHER, Birthdate 14th Feb, Due 6th Feb, Weight 8lbs 8oz, Born to NotAnOtter (4blue1pink), Baby no 5, Lives ??,
ANYA OLIVE CATRIONA, Birthdate 20th Feb, Due 8th Feb, Weight 7lbs 9oz, Born to Popadopalis, Baby no 1, Lives Bedford,
BRAM THOMAS, Birthdate 21st Feb, Due 11th Feb, Weight 9lbs 15oz, Born to mustrunmore (Ixel), Baby no 2, Lives N London, c-sec
LUCA, Birthdate 21st Feb, Due 18th Feb, Weight 8lbs 3oz, Born to 2boysmacca, Baby no 2, Lives N Essex, Home birth
IMOGEN ROSAMOND, Birthdate 23rd Feb, Due 2nd March, Weight 7lbs 9oz, Born to Ags, Baby no 2, Lives Kent, Elective c-section
EMRYS JOHN, Birthdate 24th Feb, Due 24th Feb, Weight 8lbs 5oz, Born to Flamesparrow, Baby no 2, Lives Bournemouth, Home birth
ISABEL ERIKA, Birthdate 24th Feb, Due 3rd March, Weight 7lbs 5.5oz, Born to Amiable, Baby no 1, Lives North London, Gas & air and epidural. DH German
RORY JOHN, Birthdate 25th Feb, Due 23rd Feb, Weight 10lb 2oz, Born to dewmeadow, Baby no 2, Lives County Tyrone, Ireland, emerg c-section
LEON JASON, Birthdate 26th Feb, Due 18th Feb, Weight 7lbs 13oz, Born to Jelley (Jasnem), Baby no 3, Lives Waltham Abbey, Rapid labour, ventouse and episiotomy
SALLY ANIELA, Birthdate 28th Feb, Due 28th Feb, Weight 8lbs 13oz, Born to Thell, Baby no 1, Lives London, Water birth at home
NEVE, Birthdate 4th March, Due 27th Feb, Weight 8lbs 11oz, Born to Frizbe, Baby no 2, Lives Ripley, Derbyshire, Water birth
ALFRED WILLIAM, Birthdate 4th March, Due 27th Feb, Weight 9lbs 15oz, Born to damewashalot (Helen38), Baby no 3, Lives Warwickshire,

Dont believe her, she must've been stalking someone again

Well, we at least have an hour on you macca. But totally empathise with the leaky nappies.I really dont know how to get him to understand that its for accidents, not that you dont have to bother going to the toilet He'll wee in it last thing and first thing, regardless.I'm also trying to cut outthe last thing milk for him, but dh is really hampering me. Its so annoying.
And ds2 is doing 5 poos a day at the moment.

Swiss ball; just like a birthing ball. And very very dangerous in the hands of both ds's!

Ds1 saw Superted for the first time today. He was giving dh a synopsis , that went 'and he had something wrong with him, and they put him in the rubbish, but a spotty man rescued him and took him to his mother. She gave him some calpol and made him supercharged'

Tell me about it! He is so good during the day, he's rarely had an accident since being out of nappies but at night, he thinks nappy on, have a wee in it! We tried no nappy a few nights back but he peed, no idea when it was because he was still getting up at the same time.

My swiss ball was my birthing ball. In fact, I blew it up at 30 weeks pregnant as I couldn't find the pump and I needed it there and then to sit on I have a great photo somewhere. Difficult to see which is me and which is the ball

We need to see that photo now

agree phoenix

MRM having fab pic in my mind of you and macca both sliding off the treadmill now I didn't used to be able to walk that fast either, but I can now!!

Just been out for a lovely Thai meal, with the girls, finished off with Thai Custard, if anyones had it before? kinda green gelatin custard, with caramel on top, tastes of coconut, with milk custard around the outside! odd but nice

So tell me what you got planned for tomorrow then?
We've just decided to picnic in the park, provided weather is good, which reminds me, I must go and check the 5 day forecast as camping this weekend....

oh nearly forgot to mention this....

So I get dd2 up from her afternoon nap today (had taken dd1 for swimming lesson leaving dd2 with my mother)and think ooh where did she get that bump on the head from and the grazes on her face? ring my mum up early evening, mum says, when prompted, 'oooh, I forgot to mention that dd2 fell out of the patio door trying to climb out at the same time as holding a plastic chair like dd1' and you just stood there and watched her try to do this did you mother poor mite looks like she's been dragged through a hedge

I would have let DS do it

I prob would have too.

Where's the f'ing sun gone then? Got friends coming to play in the garden in an hour (no toddlers as hall being used for election), and I don't think it's garden weather!

For the second day running Lewis has slept til 8am

Lewis crawls out of my mums patio doors but if he did walk out i'd prob let him do it too

Thanks for all your inputs on the dress - the purple one it is then! Told dh I didn't think my arms were that fat and I would be wearing a strappy dress on Saturday, he just said oh, ok up to you really and I said yes, it is

Have also been arguing about home births - no idea why we are discussing it now - at the end of the day it may never happen but I am sick of his and his family's attitutde about anything not considered the 'norm'

I laboured really well at home until 5cm dilated with ds, then went into hospital (after 3dys on/off contractions), started on gas and air which was fine then when contractions were becoming unbearable I had Pethidine which basically, I think, was my downfall - I lost all control, couldn't concentrate, forgot to listen to anyone and just struggled through the pain until 9cm dilated when I ended up having an epidural - had ds 1hr later, could still feel all the contractions so must have been a smaller dose of anaesthetic they gave me. Ds did get his shoulders stuck, panic arose, the cord got wrapped round his neck and he was ripped out quick sharp. I passed out a couple of times afterwards. The first midwife on the ward was great for helping ds latch on but when she went home I got left with a shit young lass who basically left me to it with no support when I was struggling with the latch on etc. I felt so alone, the most alone I have ever felt in my life, I missed dh.

Anyway, my point is that I thought then, and still think now that had I stayed at home throughout the outcome may have been a bit different. I would have formed a bond with my midwife, she would have been with me throughout, I would have been in the comfort of my own home with no other distractions, I would have had sole attention form the midwife to help me latch on afterwards and more importantly I would have my own bed and my own family to snuggle up to afterwards.

Dh thinks I am looking through everything with rose tinted glasses and that he reckons I wouldn't be able to cope at home after he saw the way I coped in the hospital - which is my point, I coped brilliantly at home then lost it at hospital. It pisses me off that if I decide to have a home birth next then I would have no support whatsoever. I know for a fact my mum and his family would really really frown upon it so I would have to rely on dh to back me 100% which it seems he would never do

Don't even know why we are discussing it as I'm not even pg yet but I just want him to look into things before making a stubborn decision.

Do I win the longest post, especially as it is completely irrelevent?

Of course you looking through everything with rose tinted glasses. If you remembered how painful it was, you wouldn't have another

Seriously though, dh needs to be fully informed. Get him to speak to other fathers who've ahd home births. Dh was not happy about me having a homebirth, nor was my mum (they were both at the birth of ds in hospital and remember how traumatic it was). Both of mine were born without drugs just gas and air and with ds2 I only took gas and air for 20 mins, just before I needed to push then the buggers took it off me. Having said that I went from 4cm to popping him out in about 45 mins. I also panicked when the apin really hit me, which was 4cm and waters broke (but given the speed I dilate it's obvious why). You are more controlled in the way you labour, you are not forced to follow protocol and you are far more relaxed. If you think you want one, don't be talked into anything else. Having ds2 at home was the most amazing experience and having ds come downstairs to see his baby brother just 15 mins old (his first words were "come and play with me") was just so 'complete'. At the end of the day, you have choices, even ont he day you can chose to go to hospital if you're not coping. You an also get a pre prescription for pethadine if you feel you will need it. I would never have another hospital birth. Being left in a ward unattended, having dh hold the bed up because it was broken, having legs in stirrups without having the option to remove them, being left unstitched for 4 hours and being stuck to the bed, having my mum have to get all the bits ready for the midwife to be stiched up and then being shouted at because she couldn't find it then dropepd it (I kid you not), screaming through being stitched as it had been left to long.....

now I win the longest post, surely????

At the end of the day YOUR body, YOUR birth. My homebirth was so much better than my hospital one, even though it was much much longer.

I felt in control, and relaxed.

BumFluff ad in Babygroe

My baby's in print!!!

I'd have loved homebirths, but I know dh would never have wanted that. I retropect, it was a good idea for me to be in hosp, as I just dont seem to want to go into labour and c sections would be tricky with only my kitchen equipment With ds1 though, i do agree that things only became a problem/scary/uncontrolled once I was in an early labour ward full of screeching women and rude staff.

Had feet measured today. ds1 is the same size, luckily. And ds2 is .5 bigger, so I've got a pair of ds1's old shoes that fit him Therefore saving 20odd quid!

Anyone got a 5g boy?

I've had three very different hospital births (all at the same hospital). DD2 was planned as a home birth, which dp was not happy about, but eventually came round to the fact it was what I wanted. I ended up going in to be checked when labour started due to staff shortage, and staying as labour for me is very short. I had a crash c section shortly after, and was told later that dd would not have survived the transfer to hospital if I had developed the same problem at home.
Having said all that, I would still not try and talk anyone out of a home birth. DD1 would have been a perfect home birth, and I regret not having the confidence to go for it then. I would personally only consider it (if I was having another,) if I lived closer to the hospital.

DP on the other hand would have me chained up outside the hospital from 36 weeks if I suggested it

Don't know... he's still in pram shoes and not been measured.

Go and get him measured, then if he happens to be a 5g, make a rapid exit and you can have these 2 pairs!

Just had a nightmare with my mooncup. I thought I was going to have to go to A&E to get it removed. I could not break the vaccum Those little buggers stay in far better than a tampon that's for sure!

CSWS have you filled your sandpit? I bought 60kg of sand yesterday which filled half, I then went and got another 75kg today! Hurrah, a working sandpit

I bought 75kg normal colour plus 45kg pink, but at the moment (until the playhouse arrives) we just have a plastic thing which covers half the bottom, and we've put a third of it into that. It will def need all of it plus more when we fill it properly, esp by the time dd has scattered half of it over the garden .

If Boy isn't a 5G.... then Ds is currently a 4.5G

I promise faithfully that my norks are saggy and my children are pure evil, so I do still deserve shoes

DH got the idea that arguing with pg me is not a battle he will ever win

Mooncups - roffle!!! I have had that before too.

Finally sussed at the end of this month that my problems have been that since DS I have been trying to put it in too far - hence the leaking and uncomfortableness.

Please can someone remind me of that next time i need to use it??

I will have to go soon, as neither of the girls have shoes that fit

My ds is 5g

I know I have been very me, me, me at the moment but I have another dilemma

As you know we are off to this wedding at the weekend. Well, we are travelling up tomorrow night, stopping 2 nights in a travelodge which is a taxi drive away from the wedding venue. We have quite a few mates going to the same wedding and they managed to get cottages (2 bedroom) between them at the venue but we were late booking. I was secretly pleased as it meant we could have some 'us' time anyway on the Friday night.

Friends have arranged to go for a meal and piss-up on the Friday night but dh and I have opted to do our own thing as it will be the first time since ds was born that JUST us two went out and JUST us two woke up in the morning. I have been very excited about it all.

Anyway, a couple of friends have cancelled due to illness and have suggested we stay in the cottage with a couple of lad mates as they no longer needed the room. DH has said how good it is that we can be in the grounds etc. I'm gutted - there's no way if we stay in the cottage that we will get 'us' time as dh doesn't have the bollox to say no when he will undoubtedly be getting pressured for us to go to the big meal. It also means that we are sharing a house, we'd have our own room but it's not the same.

So, what would you do? Think sod it and stop in the cottage, afterall saves on taxi fares and we'd still have a right laugh? or stick to original plan and spend quality time with dh?

I take it ds isn't going with you Chloe? In that case, I'd opt for the right laugh and no driving in the cottage, but then there's no such thing as quality time with my dh (I'll get in trouble for that comment later!)

Yes no ds, I have been out plenty with mates since having ds but NEVER just me and dh, we just don't seem to want to waste babysitters on 'us' time which is why I'm kinda leaning to the just me and him - we will be spending all day and night sat with mates.