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Jan '07 part 5: I'm the Easter Bunny, my nose is cold and runny - so let's use LTH's patented tissue folding technique!

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2HappyEaster · 26/03/2007 19:54

I'm the Easter Bunny
My nose is cold and runny
Don't think it's funny cos it'snot.

I'm the Easter Bunny
My nose is cold and runny
So give us a carrot or go away.

Happy Easter

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WilkieBarEasterEgg · 27/03/2007 22:09

Jodie - I know the guidelines say 6 months but I feel that 16 months is adequate (agree that 12 is probably too young). My sister weaned her twins and my two best friends have also recently weaned at 4 months - just baby rice and fruit, moving on to meat and fish at 6 months.

IMO, guidelines chop and change so much - PCF, have you found any adverse effects to weaning your LO at 4 months?

JodieG1 · 27/03/2007 22:10

Pink - ds1 was a hungry baby weighed 18lb 14 at 16 weeks but he wasn't weaned until over 6 months, he was a little fatty as I can see Ethan going the same way lol. I just fed him more milk, he was bf as well.

WilkieBarEasterEgg · 27/03/2007 22:11

16 weeks I meant

JodieG1 · 27/03/2007 22:13

Wilkie - the guidelines have been researched and it's not until adulthood that effects are noticed, ie food intolerances and ibs. Can also affect asthma and make it worse if it's in the family along with allergies. Just because some people wean early and notice no side effects not doesn't render the research wrong and it doesn't mean they won't experience effects later in life. The evidence is all there and tbh there's no need to wean at 16 weeks as the calories aren't the same as milk. Have you guessed that I'll be going the BLW route? hehe.

WilkieBarEasterEgg · 27/03/2007 22:14

Jodie - I uess we will have to agree to disagree

Right ladies, I feel I have posted enough tonight. Night night - here's hoping everyone has a good night.

EasterHattieOrShouldItBeBonnet · 27/03/2007 22:14

I started weaning dd at 17 weeks but that was 4 years ago when the recommendation was generally 4 months onwards. Definitely intend to wait till 6 months this time though, apart from all the evidence around allergies etc. it's just so much easier and less messy!!

JodieG1 · 27/03/2007 22:16

Also if you do decide to wean early then please research which foods are less likely to cause reactions in their immature gut first. Fruit isn't great to start as babies have sweet tooths naturally and baby rice is bland.

CarrotAteAllTheEggs · 27/03/2007 22:16

OOOPS, sorry, Lizz misread your post to be nearly forty, not nearer forty. Sincere apologies to you

Lizzzombie · 27/03/2007 22:16

What does BLW mean?

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EasterHattieOrShouldItBeBonnet · 27/03/2007 22:19

Jodie - I've been reading the BLW threads with interest and think I'd like to give it a try.

Lizzz - BLW is baby led weaning. Basically giving finger food rather than purees and letting your baby decide how much / how to eat.

CarrotAteAllTheEggs · 27/03/2007 22:20

Off to bed now you've caused all this strife, Wilkie, Tut tut

I weaned ds1 at four months, dd at five and intend to aim for six with LO. I stuck to baby rice for a quite a while though.

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Lizzzombie · 27/03/2007 22:21

Sorry to sound like a div, but as this is my 1st LO I reckon I may as well ask the divvy questions to get it right!
But Jodie, I am a bit confused. You said babies dont eat for taste, but for calories, which i get. But then you say they have a sweet tooth.
So, does that mean they can distinguish different tastes?

JodieG1 · 27/03/2007 22:23

Liz - no I said babies eat for taste and NOT calories at that age So it's all about introducing new foods and not about calories.

Lizzzombie · 27/03/2007 22:24

Coz obviously, you will be aware that I eat far too much chocolate, so I wonder if my breast milk is sweeter than someones who doesnt eat so much sugary food!

JodieG1 · 27/03/2007 22:25

EAH - maybe we can do that together then, the BLW And anyone else that wants to join of course

JodieG1 · 27/03/2007 22:26

Liz - hehe, I eat lots of choc too Not much passes into breast milk, just small amounts as far as I've read.

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RGeeSusIsCrucified · 28/03/2007 08:16

Morning all.

Lizz - "if I was forty i'd be in bed by now" PMSL. I was in bed at 9.30pm (asleep about a minute later)and I must be one of the older mums on this thread. 34 with first child!!

Weaning debate opened a can of worms. I heard our HV go mad at someone at my last visit for giving her lo rusks in her milk at 13 weeks. She said their digestion isn't ready for anything other than milk until they weigh 17lb, and rusks are a really bad idea. She did go on to say if you give your lo anything at this age, make sure it's pureed veg and fruit, but beware that it won't keep them full as long as milk. I am a stickler for rules (it's my age you see - see above) so will be waiting until close to 6 months to wean, or until Pippa lets me know otherwise, but personally, if you think your babies are ready for it, go for it and let me know all the pitfalls in advance!!

Wilkie - good luck to DH for today.

Laughalot - forgot to say really pleased that all went fine t the scan. Roll of fat!! {grin]

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2HappyEaster · 28/03/2007 08:25

Hmmm, now I know I should go and have a shower and get ds2 ready for his 6 week check and all, but I've never been able to keep my big gob shut, so I'm just going to add my 2p's worth:

I agree with everything Jodie says. Wening before 6m increases the risk of food intolerances and allergies, of eczema, and of choking since their tongues aren't developed enough to swallow ina co-ordinated fashion. They get plenty of calories from their milk, first foods are about tastes - how many calories are in a bowl of mashed parsnip (most of which ends up round their mouths because they can't swallow) compared with milk? If they sleep better after weaning early it's because they're knackered because their immature gut is being stressed by the load. Plus, dear God we're going to be cooking for them for years, even on nights where we can't be arsed and would make do with a bowl of cereal or a pizza pre-baby, post-baby you've got to have good food for the lo, so make the most of the next few months when you're not a slave to their every food whim (and believe me, the buggers only get fussier!).

So there!

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2HappyEaster · 28/03/2007 08:27

Oh, also best to wean onto non-sweet stuff like veg if poss, if you wean onto really sweet stuff, then why would they ever want the non-sweet stuff?

Also, here's a tip for when we are weaning that gobsmacked me when weaning ds1: read the labels on breakfast cereal boxes; you wouldn't believe how much salt is added. Even weetabix has added salt

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2HappyEaster · 28/03/2007 08:33

And now for non-contentious stuff

Went to our first Mum and baby group yesterda. Didn't bother with ds1, found it too hard just to get out of the house most of the time, lol. But really glad I went, some lovely people there. But at the HV - I was sitting the whole time thinking "I could start a MN thread on that, I could start a MN thread on that, MN wouldn't believe she said that!". She was spouting such out of date crap (that I won't go into because it would probably start another debate on here, ). However, it was nice to get out.

Then in the afternoon we took ds2 to hospital about his tongue. The surgeon was really lovely and reckoned there was a 75% chance that snipping it would make a difference and said most babies sleep through it it doesn't seem to hurt so we went for it. Naturally ds2 screamed like he'd been stabbed . Oh well, 5 mins later he was smiling again so I think he forgve us! Going to be interested seeing how he feeds in the next couple of days.

Hope the colds are getting better, ds1 snotty too. Hope the ones who weren't sleeping are improving too (sorry too many posts in last couple days to do personals!).

ds1 now so big he managed to break his cot yesterday, and not just a replaceable slat, but the actual frame. There was me hoping it'd do for ds2, will have to buy another one now! Grrr.

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laughalot · 28/03/2007 08:35

Morning all had a better night with lo she went down later at 10 oclock but woke at 3 then back untill 7.

Ooops my ds was on baby rice at 10 weeks he seems ok. I must admit I do think mums know best my ds was a ganit different to dd she isnt ready for food yet sometimes I think in this world reaserch has alot to answer for there is to much of it about.

WilkieBarEasterEgg · 28/03/2007 08:39

Morning

2Happy - whilst I see what you are saying, my point is that guidelines chop and change continually (think about all the advice we got whilst pregnant about which foods not to eat etc etc - it all got a bit much IMO and I chose to eat sensibly rather than follow trict guidelines).

For years and years people have weaned at 4 months (some earlier, some later) as I was and as far as I can see, particularly amongst my friends of the same age who were weaned at 4 months, the percentage of food allergies/ezcema (sp?) etc are relatively low. I'm not saying I will be giving Jacob pureed shepherds pie but I will be introducing baby rice first and then pureed veg a little later.

I think weaning is a very personal choice, much like breastfeeding, and I certainly don't consider that I would be putting Jacob at risk by weaning him earlier than 6 months.

I think we may just have to agree to disagree on this matter because I would iamgine that everyone on the thread has some opinion on when they are planning to wean. I would rather use the thread for support than debate IYSWIM.

Hope this doesn't sound really arsy (typing doesn't get the right tone across sometimes).