March 2017 (2)

[purpleviolet1]

Second thread!

Oh no Hugh ! That is not good at all . . Everyone here has gone swimming and DD wanted a nap so I'm getting ready reading crap on the internet lol 😂

Aww Hugh hope everything is alright x

Troodie, my LO generally goes to sleep between 10-11pm too but will generally have had some sleep before that between 7 and 10. I hate that phrase re. Dummy/boob, it's so unnecessarily judgemental! Through the day DD will now generally go 3-4 hours between feeds but some days needs to feed more frequently, I assume to either maintain the supply or because she's having a growth spurt. She is quite a good feeder though, despite tongue tie/palate issues, as she's on the 91st centile!

Sounds very similar to us 100yearsdotcom we get the odd 3/4 hour stretch but usually 2.5 hours. Dd also has tongue tie but it's never stopped her gaining weight, she's always been on 75 centile. Wondering now whether should have paid for snip. For my own selfish reasons!

100yrs. ive always said it's up to parents how they go about things. Obv went then to be happy. If slow and steady is what you want and is working for you then then fab

All babies are different. Yes Obv being a mummy is diff from being a nanny :childcare but for me I can't bare the thought of no sleep. So many of my friends babies didn't and still don't /aren't great sleepers so always said I would make sure dd sleeps

And I know a routine from few weeks old will make this happen - I've done it countless times

Regular feeds (makes no diff whether bf or formula/bottle) and sleep daytime will help nights

In the end I am very happy to help and advise anyone but also don't want them to think I'm pushing my ideas to them. If they ask for help I will always try and work with their style of parenting tho also know sometimes that that's hard if I disagree with how they are doing things

I've had many babies ebf sleep well at night so honestly don't think it's a case of breast v formula - both are as good as each other in their own ways and again what the parent wants is important

@Hugh. Sorry all are poorly. Hope speedy recovery asap

@carolann. Nothing quite like the pressies they give us 😂😂

We have lots of chatting daytime but not at night - tho sure this will change

I always leave to wake up naturally if possible tho can't always

If they wake and happy. I leave them for a while. It's good for them to know we won't pick them as as soon as awake as then they won't learn to just lay there and chill/wake up - it's great your dd wakes and chats then goes back to sleep

@HughLauriesStubble sorry everyone is poorly - I hope they all get better soon!

We're on day 3 of not napping enough in the mornings. I've put ocean wave sounds on my phone and rocked DS to sleep so hopefully he'll have a decent nap - fingers crossed!

troodie
It's not too late to get the TT divided I don't think. Worth considering as TT can cause speech difficulties later.

I agree about not too late for tt

@purples sorry still having problems with milk. Isuallyuou see an improvement with neocate 😢

Refkux

Well DD didn't want her afternoon nap again.

We had TT done a bit late. On the NHS

Hi all, would like to join please. My boy/girl twins will be 5 months on the 23rd.

It's been hectic so far and I'm just about getting into a rhythm. Any tips on how I can make them sleep longer is greatly appreciated, at the moment they wake every 2.5/3 hours.

For various reasons, they couldn't latch on when they were born and so I made the decision to express and feed through a bottle, I didn't know I would last this long. On top of taking care of two babies, I need to find time to express. I generally need to express 4 times a day and I get about 35 ounces each time
I try to feed on demand but I wonder if set times will be better?
Also my dd punches herself in the stomach with her left hand quite a lot. I try distract her with toys but she still does it,they seem quite hard punches but she's not fazed. Please tell me she will stop soon. I'm scared she will hurt herself.

Welcome abacha our DC share their birthday I don't know how you do it with 2!

My DD has started rubbing her eyes until they are pink when fighting sleep if I hold her and rock her to sleep I have to pin 1 arm between us and hold the other one to stop her. Not sure what else to do other then but a mini straight jacket

Lovely to see all the updates guys. Welcome abacha! Your an inspiration. I can't manage with one let alone two ! And well done for the expressing. I did it for 18 days before giving up with exhaustion. Found it really really hard.

Today I feel all over the place. Ds is having a better day and dh is here and been helping loads. But I'm questioning whether I'm doing the feeds right. When ds was weeks old I got up to 4 hourly feeds (health visitor and dm advice) and then I realised he needed more feeds during the day to be able to get through the night so moved to 3 hourly feeds. He didn't need to feed that often though so I watched for cues and fed somewhere between 3-4 hour feeds. At the moment he is taking in around 25oz max (more often 22/23) whereas before he was taking in 32oz-ish. He fed at 2pm (4oz which is considered a great feed now) today but started crying /whinging around 4pm and instead of giving the dummy I offered a feed and he had 3oz.

Should I be feeding every time he cries since he isn't taking in normal amounts on neocate yet?

Blondes can I PM you a diary I have kept since starting neocate? Hope you don't mind and would love some feedback.

welcome and i would def advise a routine with twins and always feed at same time and sleep at same time, no matter what a night you have, always start day at same time, i find 7.30am works well but others i know start at 6/630am so dad can see before goes to work, then they sleep again by 7.30/8

dd always seems to scratch her self at night, daddy calls her harry or freddie (get it?) and we have a mini manicure after breakfast every day, i as crap with scissors

As predicted DD has had an early night 6:30 in dreamland. She's knows when she's ready for bed, she missed her afternoon nap so tried to get her to last until 6 when I started our routine minus the bath. She downed her 6oz bottle which she does every evening before bed.

Any suggestions for the early wake ups? 5:30 starts are killing me

i mixed fed for 12w, expressed day 2/3times, then bf at night and topped up with bottle whether breast or formula if thought dd needed it

impressive to have done it for 20w ish well done

@purple i would feed if he cries/wants milk,even if 2hrs, he is getting used to it and once seems happier then can start to do 3/3.5/4hr

and yes welcome to message me xroutine with him

Carol
Any of this helpful?
www.mybabysleepguide.com/2009/04/early-morning-awakenings.html

when you say missed afternoon nap what time was that

dd is changing her sleeping, was doing 9/10 1/2 4/5 and then bed at 7 to 7.30am

last few days been 9/10 then 1/2.30/3 so 2 hrs then ideally needs a nap 5ish for 30mins but doesnt always have it, so today same as @carolann had bottle 620 and downed in in 10 and sparko 630pm

hopefully will sleep till 7

dd did do 530 wakings for what seemed weeks until going to 730, would give her a bottle and back to bed and she would go back to sleep, so maybe try that and eventually 530 will go to 6 then 7

She has 3 naps normally, 8:20ish til 9, 12-1:30/2 then 3:30 til 4:30/5.

Today she missed the last one so she woke at 2pm and went to bed at 6:30. She was moany from about 5 but distracted her til 6. Tried to give her a feed at 5:30 this morning she had an ounce. Will change her as well depending on if she wakes for a feed during the night or has a df. If she wakes I change her but if df I leave her until she wakes.

Thanks for the link name I'll take a look 😁

I've found if she doesn't go down for her afternoon nap by 4 she won't have an afternoon nap and will just go to bed at 6:30 instead of 7. Bedtime isn't an issue it's the 5:30am get up. I don't even mind waking during the night for a feed its just the mornings, if she wakes before 5 for a feed I know she will go back to sleep anything after that I know I'll be up until her morning nap and then she doesn't have long

Same as us roughly for naps

Thanks for the welcome. I really didn't know I would go on for so long but since I overproduce, I get about 140 ounces daily so I've decided to continue for now. I don't express at the same times, I just have to find 20 to 30 mins 4 times a day. I think the first thing I need to do is keep a diary as I have no idea when they go down for naps and how long they sleep for. I also need to chart how much they eat and what time and see if there's a pattern to it. Then hopefully in a week or so I will be able to start a routine.