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May 2017 #16 Sleep deprivation, mumnesia and first smiles

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crazyzooo · 11/06/2017 09:46

New thread to celebrate the small things (like first smiles and eating steak with one hand), commiserate over the less fabulous stuff (poonamies, vomit eruptions and wind spring to mind) and someone to talk to at 4am Grin

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FoxMulder · 03/07/2017 12:01

Why is it always either raining or mega windy! Rubbish for going outside with a baby. And this is July. Thank God it's not December.

Adventuregame · 03/07/2017 12:28

Cox 8 weeks

newbieho · 04/07/2017 07:42

I was away for a while as my parents flown and stayed for a week. They helped a lot with cooking, cleaning, gardening (our garden has never been so tidy) and babysitting. They have also started to drive me nuts with giving "good" baby care advice that I have politely ignored.

Will try to catch up on the thread later on today.

@RasperryInAMelon our osteo appt os in the morning at 11am.

crazyzooo · 04/07/2017 08:58

Not quite sure what to do with myself... Baby crazy has slept really well for the last 3 (!!!) nights and then predictably wanted a nap about 830am... I swear I haven't felt this awake since before the 3rd trimester and it's unnerving Confused and fabulous (sure it'll change soon enough).

@1004rise the projectile pooness appears to be a daily occurrence so I chose to laugh 😁 feel a bit sad having gone to 3+ size in nappies (started at premies 10 weeks ago)

@adventuregame glad you're all healed! I too have a DP that works away and it's a mixed blessing (ice cream in bed, watching love island while breastfeeding)

@wishIwassleeping happy Costa! Do you think perhaps your DH could surprise you with a lovely coffee machine since you're shouldering the sleepless burden? ☕

@foxmulder can I complain about it being too sunny/warm too please? Am paranoid about overheating and sunburn. A nice overcast 22c day would do me nicely..!

@newbieho love the cooking/cleaning/gardening. Mine mainly hug the baby (that's ok too) but than chase me around with hats and blankets in the summer heat because the baby looks cold..!🤤

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WishIWasSleeping · 04/07/2017 10:47

@crazyzooo - I actually have a tassimo- I should probably buy some pods, that might make me feel better. Thank you for the reminder!!
The children were rascals again last night. I'm not sure quite how I'm awake. And DS isn't latching properly this morning... bloomin milk everywhere!
On the plus side it's about 22 degrees and overcast here! Grin

FoxMulder · 04/07/2017 15:48

It's 14 degrees and raining here!

1004Rise · 04/07/2017 18:04

@Adventuregame glad all is well, this is officially the slowest thread we've had and I still struggle to keep up!

@FoxMulder it's 14 degrees and raining here too (yah boo hiss) although yesterday it was 19 degrees and sunny so I'll take what I can get!

@WishIWasSleeping tassimo is good but not quite the same hope you enjoy your costa when you get it!!

@newbieho good news on the tidying, less good on the advice... well done for politely ignoring!

I had Baby Rise at a baby sensory class this morning, I felt like a complete idiot for most of it but she seemed to enjoy the bits she was awake for 🤔 so we may go back. I had my exercise class an hour after so was a bit of a rush, I haven't adjusted to how long it takes to get a baby in/out of pram and car seat 🙄 might have to be more organised and try to go to an earlier one next time 😳 (then I can fit in a costa trip for lunch)

mightymouse76 · 04/07/2017 19:07

@1004Rise I can't keep up either!! I've got a half written post from almost a week ago - I used to be slow but this is next level! I miss the interaction during the night feeds too.

Here's a vague attempt:
@1004Rise I think my tiredness and anxiety are totally linked - we had a little run of great sleeps from baby (5-6 hours for the first bit) and I felt much more stable. I think the pressure to be switched on for client emails and look after a baby after bad nights is really stressful, so I'm finally coming to terms with the guilt over a baby sitter and am trying to see it as a positive - I should consider myself lucky I can cost it in to the work, and benefit from the ability to shove a wash on and have a shower in between writing emails ; ). That in itself is a luxury I should celebrate!

On a nappy tip, not sure whether you got that sorted but we tried Waitrose, Chicco and Pampers, and Pampers win out on less leaks and nappy rash. He would like the most expensive brand…although handily the cheapest bulk packs are on Amazon Prime - another excuse to hit 'Buy'!
It's really weird to think he might need Size 2 soon…
Has baby rise spent a bit more time in the next2me (and slept a bit more than Sunday night?!)

@MrsJW15 and @Rockyroad17 I've been getting this 3am shopping totally wrong by paying for it myself. Rookie error. Linking DP's card instead Grin

How's baby Rocky's sleep now? Has it evened out a little?
Re: Nursery furniture, not sure whther you are sorted but we have the sleepy head in a Snuzzpod which fits well.
Not sure if you need one but the Ikea changing station is brilliant too - £25 and has lots of pots you can hang from it and shelf underneath for easy access storage.

@PeachIcedT did you start any exercise after all? I saw my doc for my 6 week (at 8 weeks) check and he suggested swimming and light chest lifts (very gentle half sit ups to try and get the core knitting together). I've been walking a few days a week (not much, maybe 3-4k, and purely as a result of having to go places in London) but I'd like to try and continue walking every day.

Thinking about a mum and baby yoga class. Anyone have any experience of those? I feel like he's a bit small still but then have no idea what they entail. I'm bound to feel like a twat in one but that's nothing new with me and yoga classes Smile

@Raspberryinamelon Long way back but good work on the scar! Mine is covered in a glue strip and looks gross (it looks like it's been flocked in clothing fibres), but I think has healed well?
At 8 weeks I've got a lot more feeling back so just give it time, I'm sure you'll recover more sensation. Things improved drastically around 6 weeks for me in terms of comfort and feeling.

@BouncingBlueberry how's your scar this week? Hope it's a bit less tender. I'm just reaching the point where I occasionally forget it's there (until I move in a stupid way and get a sharp reminder!) but it's definitely getting there.

Has anyone else had dissolvable stitches and a glue strip? Judging by the reaction of MWives in my home borough of London, they seem to think it's a weird practice liked by the hospital I gave birth in (a different borough).

@Rabbitykins55 How's baby rabbit after the TT procedure? Did feeding improve?

@Vanilla8 How did the breastfeeding top hunt go? I've realised I can't don my usual all in one jump suit type outfits as it involves getting half naked to feed Blush

@Mrspage1985 Hope your recovery is going well and your DP has got his head screwed back on…that sounded like a very frustrating situation pre-holiday. Yet again, Tea summed it up very well.
I find that kind of behaviour creeping back in now and again, and sometimes think it's worse when I've temporarily taken on more and asked for less help. He seems to immediiately slip (dive) back in to Prebaby lifestyle as if that's it for good, and I have to then re-explain my position. Like @Tickyboovicki it's a case of repetition.

One thing I have found quite good is to sit every morning whilst we all eat/feed, and ask what we want to achieve that day during any time not allocated to work. It then allows for a bit of negotiation. After a couple of shocking days we made an agreement that neither of us (meaning he) shouldn't assume that time outside of work is his to do what he wants with, and instead we should help each other to do what we'd like to do without leaving the other unsupported.
It's such a relationship learning curve, isn't it?

Right, got to go, evening feed about to kick in.
Hope to catch up on more recent convos later!

Speaking of quiet ones, how are you @Badgerbird?

EsmesBees · 04/07/2017 19:25

wish I've been wondering about nursebickypegs too. I sent her a pm last time she dropped off but don't want to again in case I look like a mad internet stalker!

Fox it's meant to be 28 here tomorrow. Too hot. I prefer dry and mild with a little one. Another paddling pool day for us I think.

We are all ill here. The toddler bought a cold.home from.nursery and it's spread. Baby Bees has a snotty nose and a weepy eye, feel so sorry for her, but this is the lot of a second child. Not looking forward to tomorrow. Hate being ill in charge of small children.

How did the appointment go newbie? Sounds wonderful having all that extra help, even with the unsolicited advice Wink

vanilla8 · 04/07/2017 19:43

@mightymouse76 I have dissolvable stitches but no glue? Unless I can't see the glue Grin

I got a top in mothercare sale and not much else in my trip to lakeside, so I came home and ordered from boob (expensive but nice clothes) and also a nursing cover from Bebe au Lait - which is a great find as it means I can breastfeed in any tops. It's also been great in building my confidence breastfeeding in public. I picked one up from eBay if anyone's interested.

Lovely weather here and managed to do a bit of weeding with baby in sling, have just seen its up to 29 in London tomorrow Shock

I have also been best friends with Amazon prime and have discovered subscribe and save, also see they have a discount on weleda baby products at moment so had to order that too Blush

On the nappy note we will be moving to size 2 as I've just used up all my size 1s. Have so far tested pampers and boots and liked both of them. Saw a post on Facebook talking about Aldi changing their design and the new ones are leaky? I have a box of size 2 in aldi to try and some Lidl ones.

1004Rise · 04/07/2017 21:08

@mightymouse76 I like your attitude about your babysitter, definitely a bonus being able to add it to your rate. For what it's worth I think you're doing amazing, I can barely string a complete sentence together never mind answer client emails in a reasonable and productive manor. 😁 (reasonable is the bit I'd struggle with more 🤔) While baby rise was asleep by 10 pm last night and slept for a good 4 hrs before wanting anything she hasn't spent any of that time in the next2me 😖 I prioritised actually sleeping!

On the topic of exercise, I have a print out of the exercises from my post pregnancy physio class when I don't have an armful of baby I'll post a picture of it for you all.

I have no glue on my scar either, just dissolvable stitches- I have to say I'm incredibly impressed with how little you can see it.... I refuse to comment on stretch marks ☹️

We're currently on Aldi size 2 nappies because I'm seriously considering not opening the jumbo box of size 2 pampers and taking them back to Sainsbury's to swap for size 3 😱 We didn't get on with Lidl at all. Does anyone know where you can donate unwanted nappies... I have a load of size 1s that I don't want to throw out if someone could use them (I feel guilty enough about the landfill we're creating with disposables)

vanilla8 · 04/07/2017 21:49

@1004Rise maybe your local food bank will take the nappies?

MrsJW15 · 04/07/2017 23:10

@mightymouse76 dissolvable stitches here but no glue. Have been ordering bikinis online this week to try and find something that won't aggravate my scar when we are away next week. Haven't had my 6 week check yet (it's at 8 weeks) but assuming a bit of splashing around in the pool will be ok. Not real swimming - it's a tiny pool!

@mightymouse76 I love your breakfast discussions - maybe we should do that. Mr W is off work until September so we are doing all of this together. Mostly he is amazing but occasionally can switch off or focus so Nix on his phone or a random task that he doesn't hear what's going on which is frustrating!

@vanilla8 we are approaching the end of a giant Amazon box of size 1s and contemplating the switch to size 2s 😲 also she's starting to grow out of her smallest clothes 😢

@1004Rise we didn't like the Lidl ones either - no line to see if it's wet!

savagehk · 04/07/2017 23:13

food bank, women's refuge (although often hard to get in touch with for safeguarding reasons!), collections for refugees (although our local one had a fabulous donation of new Pampers so aren't in need of any smaller sizes at the moment)

newbieho · 05/07/2017 02:32

@MrsJW15 baby newbie grow out all his newborn size clothes 😢

@1004Rise Exercise pic would be great! I cannot commit to any classes at the moment as baby is unpredictable so home exercises are the inly option. Baby newbie is 7 weeks and he is heading to size 3 nappies as well 😱

@vanilla8 I keep saying to myself that people have two options when seeing me BF: one where I feed the baby and two where there is no feed but baby is screaming blue murder. So far none complained about option no. one 😉

@EsmesBees hope the Bees household gets better soon! The appointment is booked for Friday and I will report afterwards.

@crazyzooo my mum was trying all the time to put the socks / hat the baby and only after she saw him melting she stopped doing this. My mum and dad can be loud and annoying but I have to admit they have helped a lot during their stay and were very much hands on.

@mightymouse76 I have missed your posts! Very impressed with you working already! I feel like my Excel knowledge is vanishing as we speak. I was also considering baby yoga classes but the little one is unpredictable at the mo.

newbieho · 05/07/2017 02:45

@WishIWasSleeping I second @crazyzooo - coffee machine was the first thing that we bought during January sales as we were expecting sleepless nights after baby newbie arrived. Coffee pods is a good idea ;)

@Adventuregame Welcome back and great to hear you are getting better x

@jennymac31 We don't have a car and it can be tricky sometimes - feeling your pain.

@WishIWasSleeping I am doing the same thing as @Tickyboovicki - put baby in the pram and go out. He usually calms down as soon as I close the front gate 🤔

@teainbed hope you're having nice holiday!

@Paige84 Don't know what to add to what the girls gave said but 

@CoxsOrangePippin have you been signed off already?

newbieho · 05/07/2017 02:49

@Rabbitykins55 how is the baby doing after tongue tie snip and cranial osteopathy session?

Rabbitykins55 · 05/07/2017 03:39

@newbieho @mightymouse76 he's feeding for longer with a bigger gap in between, two hours rather than an hour and a half so I'll take that. It does feel different too, stronger but not painful.

He does seem better after the cranial osteopathy, two sessions down and one to go He's really chilled out after two which is lovely!

Tickyboovicki · 05/07/2017 04:47

@1004Rise if the food bank won't take them maybe ask your local hospital?

@MrsJW15 we've also grown out of clothes! I had a proper sort out yesterday and have a big pile of things that no longer fit that I need to box up! Constant reminders of how quickly time is going.

Even scarier than growing out of clothes is we are considering taking baby Ticky out of his Moses basket! He's so long that he's running out of room length wise, and he absolutely hammers the sides with his hands/feet. We have a swinging crib that's an inbetweeny size so might try that in the next few weeks.

Being half asleep and doing things during feeds is not a good idea, just messaged my cousins wife who had a baby a month after me and called her baby the wrong name! Whoops, at least I can blame baby brain!

Also whoever mentioned doing exercise at home I find the 7 minute workout apps good to use when baby's asleep, as I can't rely on him staying asleep for long! Some of the exercises I adapt to make easier, but death 7 minute workout apps and there's loads.

dreamofhungarianlanterns · 05/07/2017 07:57

Esmes we have sticky eye here too. I posted about it on our Facebook group- except whoops I didn't, my post about whether to squirt breast milk into my babies eye went on main Facebook which I very rarely use so caused some hilarity! Anyway I did the milk in eye thing and it looks like it's working, though he is looking at me like I'm a loon each time I administer the medicine!

WishIWasSleeping · 05/07/2017 08:12

@dreamofhungarianlanterns - that's made me laugh this morning. Much needed! Grin
Were currently squirting for cradle cap at the top of the nose!

I was thinking the other day as to how I'm going to cope when he stays growing out of big stuff. We're already in size 2's, in fact I think we're almost out, and 3-6m clothes! Luckily I brought a Noah pod for DD which DS has obviously inherited - and he likes it more than she did! - so those are a bit longer than a standard Moses basket. But my wayfarer 'indoor' pram I can't say the same for! Although luckily the bugaboo bassinet / seats seem much longer!
(Attached is the wayfarer)

May 2017 #16 Sleep deprivation, mumnesia and first smiles
Tickyboovicki · 05/07/2017 08:23

Wow wish he's definitely getting snug in there! It's mad how different makes etc can have different sizes. Our loses basket is quite a long one so he's got a few inches left length wise, but it's the width that seems to be an issue as he's really batters it and wakes himself up.

We're also almost out of size 2 nappies, and had to sort out the 3-6m clothing yesterday to check what we have, as I'm sure it won't be long!

WishIWasSleeping · 05/07/2017 09:57

I mean... my DD is far from tiny but she was in there for ages! I don't want to put the seat on as he still looks too little to be in the seat! - although, that would be easier as DD still naps in the seat sometimes at the weekend if we're home.

Oh my days my neighbour is in his garden whistling and he is doing my tree in. It's not even a tune. It's just random noise. Hmm

jennymac31 · 05/07/2017 10:00

Morning ladies

Baby nate already seems to be close to outgrowing his moses basket and he's not 8 weeks yet. Like tickyboovicki, baby keeps hitting the sides and waking himself up. Does anyone else's baby appears to be fighting in their sleep? Nate always has his fists up, punching the air as though he's going 12 rounds with someone! Got a feeling he might take after dh, who always has very vivid dreams where he's spiderman or some other action hero! Plus dd was (and still is) such a fidget in bed and is never in the same spot of the bed for longer than 5 mins.

BouncingBlueberry · 05/07/2017 10:10

@jennymac31 Jacob likes to think he's Tyson in bed. He also manages to move himself round so that he's on a diagonal. His head next to our bed and his legs pointing into the corner. From our 20 week scan we were told Jacob was long so we didn't go for a Moses basket. I'm so glad we didn't. We had a look in John Lewis last week and he would already be almost too big for it.
Jacobs also started to try to put everything within his reach into his mouth and gets cross when he can't reach them.