May 2017 #16 Sleep deprivation, mumnesia and first smiles

[crazyzooo]

New thread to celebrate the small things (like first smiles and eating steak with one hand), commiserate over the less fabulous stuff (poonamies, vomit eruptions and wind spring to mind) and someone to talk to at 4am

Jenny that sounds much better!

@jennymac31 it looks like the conversation between you and DH was fruitful and helped you both. Great news!

To all the mums wondering where the time goes - baby newbie is six weeks old. The time flies and our babies are getting older..,

Nice one Jenny and mr Jenny, sounds like a goo talk and good to hear he shared there were things going on for him too as you never made him sound crap just not in tune with what you needed.

I (nicely) tore a strip off DP this morning as last night at 11 he woke the peacefully deep asleep baby 'because he looked so cute' just to touch him briefly and then the sleep between 11 and first feed at 1 was then fractious and noisy so I was awake trying to smooth him whilst DP slept. I told him this morning and he chose not to acknowledge what I said so I text him later and he realised his error, which was mainly ignoring a sleep deprived and angry woman

Does anyone else get this sort of sleep, seemingly peaceful for a couple of minutes then thrashing around grunting and roaring, back to peaceful and repeat...?

Fingers crossed for mastitis and runaway toddler recovery esmes and Savage. Good to hear you sounding more chipper rasperry and thanks for the co sleeping chat folks very useful. Some gorgeous pictures on here the last few days. Here's a not amazing one but interesting subject, barn owl project came to health check the babies, this one is about 5 weeks old same as Harrison when pic was taken

That sounds much better @jennymac31!

@dreamofhungarianlanterns that would drive me mad. My sister woke her up one evening and I was furious. She thought it was funny...

We also get periods of very noisy sleep. Sometimes I think she's about to wake up but then she settles.

Maybe we should focus more on an evening routine @RasperryInAMelon. We don't really have one and we are struggling to get her to sleep before 12/1. But at 1 month old she is evidently switching from that newborn fall asleep constantly phase to needing a bit of persuasion. We are trying to make sure she naps in the day!

@dreamofhungarianlanterns yes! My little one constantly wakes me up with me thinking he needs feeding/changing only for him to then settle before I get things ready/wake up fully, leaving me wide awake!

Struggling with some very stressful & tiring evenings currently. Constant screaming/crying, wants to feed but gets fussy and pulls away (not sure if my supply is low?!) won't be put down. Thankfully sleeping ok through the night but the evenings are really wearing me down, and taking a toll on our relationship! The only time we seen one another after other halfs back from work is taken up with a miserable baby, leading to two miserable parents who end up bickering! Hoping it settles soon

@RasperryInAMelon glad things are going well. I know what you mean about time flying! My eldest is leaving primary school this week, I've no idea where the last 12 years have gone.

@jennymac31 that sounds like a very positive chat with your DH.

@dreamofhungarianlanterns we get a bit of the thrashing too, I think it's going in and out of different sleep cycles.

@Tickyboovicki evening fussiness is so tiring! It is another one of things that eventually settles but is so draining when you're in the middle of it.

BabyTea was only up once in the night which was wonderful.

ticky your supply probably won't be low, it's just a thing babies do unfortunately. As tea says this bit does pass. And if it makes you feel better, you probably won't remember most of it!

Raspberry glad things are a bit better for you. I've decided to accept the new nursery place, possibly against my better judgement. She cried loads at drop off this morning, which she never does. I think the reality of having a little sister is sinking in.

Gorgeous babies (and owl!) Dream and MrsJW

Currently having my first bath since the one I gave birth in four weeks ago. Weird not to have the huge bump sticking out.

acorncat wheat, soy snd dairy??!!! So, all food then.

I heard that the definition of co-sleeping was just sharing a room, and what we're talking about is bef sharing .

I came into this parenting lark with the expectation that baby wouldn't be put down, so that bit hasn't come as a surprise. With DS though he got to a point where he wouldn't nap in the sling - only in bed so I would lie with him. But this time i have a toddler! Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

Our evenings are tough here. She is so unsettled. By 9pm I'm dying for bed but she won't sleeeeeep! What is it about evenings???

Can i retract my post from last week about baby sleeping all the time! Ever since i posted it she became a lot fussier! She hasnt wanted to be put down all day! Had to ring my mum today to come for a cuddle so i could do the dishes! She brought another blanket!! I think we will need a spare room soon just for nanas blankets!

I just read that back, apologies for the over use of !!!s! I wish we could edit

Vicki we have similar evenings. Constant feeding and fussing. The best evening we've had so far is when we took her to the pub about 7pm and the background noise seemed to make her sleep for hours! Our friends thought she was a dream... Last night I made DH take her for a walk about 6 because I think her refusal to nap was part of the problem. She was better with some sleep - still didn't actually go to bed until 1 though!

Esmes I had my first bath last week. I was so surprised when I got out - it was much easier than the last time I tried!

Yep, feeling the pain in the evenings too basically wants to be attached to the boob and seems to sense when we're about to have dinner and time a proper meltdown for then. Having said that, basically all of today has been pretty bad. Feels like we're going around in the smallest circle of feeding, crying, winding and nappy changes. Been desperately trying to break the circle to get out of the house but it's pretty rainy here. Ah well, tomorrow is another day. Plus it's all so totally worth it for the cutest little smiles.

I have seen the BF consultant today as a follow up after tongue tie snip. She recommended seeing cranial osteopath for problems with jaw movement, fussiness etc. We have got an appt set up for July 7th. Does anyone have any experience with cranial osteopathy for babies?

Does anyone have the Chico next to me? Baby-crazy likes to spread out when sleeping so I am thinking of removing the sleepy head. I am just a bit worried about the firm lip of fabric between the the cot and my bed. What is everyone else doing about this? Ignoring it? Getting a bigger mattress?

Well done @jennymac31 and mr jenny, glad you could work it out 😁

@dreamofhungarianlanterns what an awesome picture, how cool to have 2 5 week old babies 😉

@Tickyboovicki we had a while like that... she has got better still quite shouty at 9pm but now only for 15/20 minutes rather than an hour. I think she was going from the newborn sleep whenever not feeding to worrying about missing something if she falls asleep 😳

@FoxMulder I think there's a direct correlation between how tired I am and how little interest she has in going to sleep.... 😖

@crazyzooo we have a next2me (not that she sleeps in it 🤔) but that lip is right up against our mattress and the cot is at a height that the lip sits just below the top of the mattress... does that make sense?

Baby Rise had her 6 week check today... all good, 11lb 15oz so no wonder she feels heavy!! Definitely building up my arm muscles 💪!

I had my first exercise class with the physiotherapist at the maternity hospital, we get 6 weeks of exercise NHS provided!! Every trust should do this! It was really good, I was surprised at how pathetic my core muscles still are. Physio was really good, now all I need to do is keep doing the exercises 😁

@crazyzooo I have a Next2me and Jacob loves to roll around and spread out in it before he sleeps. The cot is pushed up right next to our bed frame and the lip is no problem. My worry is that at almost 5 weeks old he's going to grow out of it soon as he's very long. So glad I didn't get a Moses basket now.

@Rockyroad17 I feel your pain and @MrsJW15
@Walkerbean16 no retraction it's your own fault teehee ! But such a cutie!
@jennymac31 keep that dialogue going. Oh was a bit annoying today when we went food shopping after work and our boy started fussing the moment we went into the shop. He had the list and trolley so he was responsible for getting everything but he was just annoyed when I said I was gonna have to feed him as soon as in the car. He started rushing round the shop and huffing and puffing as he'd been looking forward to his coffee and we were only a few minutes away from home so I should just wait to feed him until home etc etc etc! Today is our 2nd anniversary of meeting so I wasn't planning on ruining our day. We had a chat in the mean time but it made clear how we both need to adjust to putting the needs of a little person above our own !

@1004rise - that's so good that your NHS trust provides 6 weeks of exercise as physiotherapy. Wish my trust did that!

Thank you @bounchingblueberry and @1004Rise, I think I just assumed it would be flat so I could pull him across into my bed. I was worried his little head would get stuck against the lip of fabric (or the fabric sides of the cot) but now I have slept I feel a bit more sensible!

@Rustler74 my DP is exactly like yours. He get's frustrated that we can't delay/bring forward/ interrupt feedings to suit us and thinks It's acceptable to leave a dirty nappy until convenient to change.. He has always been quite a selfish person (has very many other great qualities) and is struggling to put someone else's immediate needs above his own.

Pass the match sticks I'm bloody exhausted, not had a sleep longer than an hour all night due to frantic baby, completely exhausting and annoying and my nipples are on fire due to crap latch I swear this baby is bored rather than hungry!

I had a rubbish night sleep, Baby Rise was fine and slept for good 3 hr chunks I was just really restless 😣 I think I was randomly worried about her being in the bed rather than in the cot. Can we share the matchsticks @peasandquiet

@crazyzooo glad sleep has helped the rational 😉

Argh @1004Rise I know the feeling. Last night I was up for ages because baby W was being a very noisy sleeper. So frustrating when baby is asleep but you are not!

Can I have a matchstick too please? I am really struggling to sleep in the room with the baby at the moment. Every little noise is waking me.

If anyone works out how to get two little ones into the buggy and out of the house without someone bawling let me know. Seems to be an impossible task at the moment.

Matchsticks all round! He's still not feeding properly so now I'm starting to worry. Great fun being a parent!

I need a small rant please and DP has gone to work (luckily for him) and I am still raging.
I slept for about 3hrs (for the third night in a row). So when I heard DP get up to go in the gym (spare room with some gym equipment - nothing fancy) I gave him the baby. Told him I desperately needed to sleep even if only for 30min before he went to work.... He wakes me up before he goes and told me he had to leave him to cry the entire time or he wouldn't have finished in the gym??? I was (still am) so angry and have now told him he is a psychopath.... Excellent communication/teamwork in our house this morning