July 2006 babies - on the move???

[MaeWest]

May I take the liberty of starting a new thread ladies?

Afternoon ladies

Was a rough night-poor Sophie.

Hope all other poorly people are getting better.

kbaby-your DD looks so happy.

Hi soph-Chloe seems to be having a lot of milk still. Perhaps you can reduce it? My DD1 wouldn't eat (well she still won't 3 years later) so I reduced the milk intake and she started eating more. The little monkey was filling up on milk. The recommended intake is 7oz on waking, 7oz after tea and 7oz at bedtime. Sophie is still BF and only has milk once a day as she is just not interested but the Dr said not to worry as she will take what she wants. Sophie prefers food to milk-takes after me as I don't like milk. Don't worry about Chloe not moving as Sophie doesn't roll (has rolled twice so I know she can) and only bottom shuffles. DD1 was well crawling by this age.

Wallace-you have been mentioned again in the weekly MN talk by MorningPaper!

sohappy-I know what you mean about the orange food stains. Several things have been ruined and even using copious amounts of Vanish doesn't work.

There has been a Banking clearing system cock-up so DH hasn't been paid today Hopefully it will be credited before the Direct Debits go out on Monday.

Girls-how can I shift my feeling of doom and gloom. Am not in floods of tears but do feel a tad like I did when I suffered from depression/anxiety a few years back. Heavy weight bearing down on my chest. Work didn't help matters that is why I needed to take AD's but am not at work and if I go to the Drs they might prescribe them again and I'm not sure if I want to take them. I wonder if you can still BF with them.

Better go and do some housework and ponder.

Hugs to all. (((xxx)))

xxx

I need to do housework too but thought I would pop on and say hello!!!
How long do you think I will be here!!!

Ceebee, one Cadbury's Dairy Milk on it's virtual way.

HC, maybe you would like some too? When I feel down, I say to myself, well, I have to get on with it, cos if I go down, then the in-laws get the babies, and I'm not leaving them at their mercy!!!

Auntymandy I'll give you til 1.45

Here's your choc by the way AM

Thanks for the choc - at least there are no calories in this!

HC - poor you - is there anyone (apart from the doc) who you can talk to which might help? I can understand why you want to avoid the AD's {{{{{{hugs}}}}}

Ceebee-I can't really talk to family as Annie is right. Sophie will be sent straight round to either MIL or my mum 'to give me a break' but to me that makes things worse. Crikey, what a situation to be in. DH didn't understand when I went through this before.

Nice chocolate BTW.

HC

Fraid I'm not good at this sort of thing, so may I just tell you a joke to cheer you up?

What does an elephant use for a tampon?

A Sheep

(v. old, sorry)

Afternoon everyone

HC- {{{{{MAHOOSIVE HUGS}}}}} for you. Sorry you're feeling so down, have you made a definite decision about work? Could that be hanging over you?
I have times like that too and it really helps to make myself get out and about. Do you have people you can meet up with? The weather people have promised a VERY sunny week next week, a sunny day always helps to lift the spirits.
I think there are AD's you can take whilst B/F so if you don't feel better ,maybe it would be worth considering them?
I may be taking them soon myself as since having Zack I've been having terrible PMT, 4-6 days a month are Hell. I'm trying some vitamins first but if they don't help I'm off to the docs again. We all have an awful time

And don't forget you have been feeling very run-down of late so you're hardly going to be on top of the world. Get out there and get some fresh air even when you don't really feel like it. xx

Annie now get on with some work (says she who has skived off for the afternoon and now Josh is asleep, I can doss on MN for the day!)

HC - {{{{hugs}}}} - what a difficult situation although I do understand about family - there is NO way I would let MIL look after Josh.

Just have to tell you all about this VERY annoying woman at singing time today. I was talking to my friend about night waking (her baby is worse than Zack) and this busybody interrupted..

" Excuse me, I'm run a sleep clinic in (Home County) and you are both really rather silly you know"

"I tell my ladies as soon as they get to 6 months to stop feeding in the night"

(poor ladies)

"Of course its no skin off my nose if you want to get up and down umpteen times a night"

GRRRRR I would have appreciated her offering advice but her tone and manner was AWFUL! Shouldn't think many exhausted mums return to her sleep clinic, poor things.

Do you eat properly HC? And do you get a break from the girls at all?
I feel sooooooo much better now I go out occasionally, can still only manage 2-3 hours away from Zack but its worth it

Yes Sir, CeeBee SIR!!

HC, agree with US, some fresh air, a change of scenery might help. Failing that, an afternoon in a child-friendly pub!! After that, anything is possible...

Annie

Us at that woman. She obviously doesn't have babies, or else a very short memory...

What helpful woman Us . To think I could have solved all our sleep 'problems' simply by witholding the boob 2 months ago (crap night here too last night). DH tried his best to settle the boy at about 11 when he woke up. Cue red-faced screaming for the best part of an hour (was even pushing me away). Then DS calmed down enough for a feed at about midnight, but decided to chat and wriggle in our bed until 1am, before waking again at 4am... I also don't know what the hell is going on with naps here, they were never good, but had settled to an after brekkie and after lunch. Past 2 days he won't go down for morning nap, but then crashes out at 11 for 30 mins and then spend the rest of the afternoon trying to work out when to fit in the next one. Don't tell me he's going down to one nap already I'm pretty sure he needs more sleep than this, whingy and clingy etc.

Oh well, at least the sun is shining, DS is asleep (for now) DH is out at the supermarket and I've jsut polished off my elevensies of toast and marmelade

Hi everyone. Just getting over a bad bout of mastitis in the Impy Household. Ouch. Went to the doc's to get anti-biotics prescription and she told me to stop b-feeding that day.... goes against all advice I've read for treating mastitis and I ignored her. But am wondering about cutting down feeds now - it's the second bout I've had and had to have Wed off work with it.... Anyway.....

Bloss - your boys are just gorgeous

Thanks for all advice about tummy excess everyone. Will get exercising once over tiredness/mastitis/more tiredness umm...

Cutie pix Maewest - such chubby cheeks! We're also having nap "issues". I've found cutting out coffee (I b-feed) has helped him settle a bit better in the day. But generally I think are bairns are at the "blimey there's so much to explore - I can't be doing with this sleep lark" - stage

Thx for sweet words Kamikayzed - you flatterer you! Roshi is beautiful - love her hair. I've no idea why she isn't cooed over as much as Chili was/is - I can only assume that Chili is some kind of supermodel child and is currently raking in the millions in GapKids ad campaigns....

Beadmum - hope kitchen fit goes well. We've been without a kitchen for two weeks and it'll be another 2 before it's fitted. Not fun. Why we didn't do this before having Ryan I do not know!

Sorry about the driving test PrettyMum - go and treat yourself with the petrol money you'll have saved ;-)

Kbaby - great pix! Amelia's so pretty! Know what you and other's have been saying about jar food - our babies are so discerning! Trouble is, with only a microwave at our disposal, Ryan's having to live on sweet potato, porridge and avocado when he turns his nose up at food jars....

Soph28 - don't worry about the eating/moving thing. Babies get most of their nutrition from bm/formula in first year and they all have their different development rates. Ryan only really has two meals a day - I'm too lazy to get up and give him a proper breakfast - so he has a b-feed and a cracker before going to nursery. He has a cup of pureed meat/fish/veg there and I give his some potato/avocado/whatever around 6pm

Tee hee AnnieOldTing about the long lasting sperm - I'm with you girlfriend!

Hope all those who've been ill, and whose LOs are poorly, are feeling better

Oh HC, so sorry for you. Maybe you should get to the doc's - it could be a hormonal imbalance or something. Don't suffer in silence. If it's only offloading on to us, then do it - don't try and suppress whatever it is you're feeling. It needs to be faced. Give yourself a huge hug from me - we're all thinking about you.

Usandnosleep - that woman from the sleep clinic needs a slap!

My brother and his girlfriend are over for a visit and a friend of mine babysat for us last night so we could all go out for a lovely meal in a French bistrot - first time I've been out like that in months. Shame it was when I was feeling so rubbish, but c'est la vie! Hugs to everyone, have a good weekend. Impy x

Hi all!
Hows it going?
Please stop me buying knitting patterns on ebay!!!

Evening ladies

us-GGGGRRRHHHH at that stupid woman.

Impy-ouch on your behalf. Have heard how painful mastitis is. Think you are right in the fact you are supposed to keep BF through it.

Maewest-hope you have more sleep tonight hun.

Plucked up courage to tell DH how I feel and the first 2 things he said were: 'is it because you are at home all the time' and 'do you need a break from Sophie' and then MIL turned up in the middle of the conversation. He said he doesn't want me to take AD's. Have had an Email from my friend that does some hours at the Bank if they are desperate and she told my Manager that I don't want to come back yet and would like to go back on my Career Break. The Manager is going to ring me next week so dreading the call and she told my friend she didn't like the comments made by DH in the theatre the other week. Don't know what to say to her.

DH going to the Bike Racing at Donington Park with BIL tomorrow so I am off to my mum and dad's with both girls for the day.

Love to all.

xxx

HC, sorry to hear that you're feeling low . A trip to your GP might be a good idea, if you feel comfortable talking to them. ADs can be very effective (and there are some that you can take whilst bf) but need to be part of a bigger package of help. The extra pressure from MIL doesn't sound helpful either. Do you have any close 'mum' friends to meet up with? One of my best mates has a baby 10 weeks younger than DS, she lives locally and we meet up often round each others houses, also spend quite a lot of time chatting on the phone, good support when it's been a bad day/night. Hope you feel better soon

Blos- The swede and mince was so yummy that when DS had finished I devoured (sp) the rest of it.

I gave DS a babylicious meal for a year old baby and not only did he eat the whole thing but actually enjoyed it. Maybe he liked the texture as I have never really purred his food that much and is used to very lumpy food. So theres hope yet that he may eat something other than home food.

What a lovely day yesterday, we went to the park and DS and DD helped me do the gardening so at least it looks half respectable. I love the sun. Dh is down in London on some sales award weekend (read major piss up) so weve had a peaceful weekend with no tantrums yet!

Cant remember if ive given you my top tip for orange food stains but here it is;

1)Wash item as normal
2)Put on washing line
3)Leave for a week

I really does get them out. I think it?s the rain and sun that bleaches the stain out. It gets all of DD?s Bolognese stains out and DS carrot stains. Only thing it doesn?t get out is poo stains.

Hc- Big hugs for you (( )) I think you should go the the GP?s. I suffered antenatal depression on DD and felt exactly how you described, and also spent my first few weeks with DS crying all the time and feeling as if I couldn?t be arsed with the whole thing and why did I ever have children. I was on Ads for a few months with DD and felt so much better after. I know there are some you can take while BF. I want to come around and take both girls out for you and give you an afternoon break. I 2ND what everyone else has said that you must try and get out, the fresh air and sun does wonders for your spirits. What comment did your DH say then?
US ? what a cheeky woman, you think she would actually have had some sympathy for you.
Don?t you hate it when they have a morning nap late and then spend the rest of the afternoon whinging because they are tired but wont nap again grggg..

I am having a lush morning, sorry to gloat. DC are at my mothers, im still in my PJ?s, DH is away and I can just mooch around the house in peace with no demands of wees needed or someone to entertain.

Hi everyone!

HC. Sorry you have been feeling down. Have you tried any homeopathic antidepressants if you're not keen on the real thing?
I always offer her food when she is starving and she has milk after. I don't really want to start withholding milk cos she is tongue-tied and it might be difficult for her to eat.

Annie- I'm glad Chloe is not alone but she does sleep through the night 6.30pm till 7.30am most days.

Impychic- sorry about the mastitis, hope you're over it now

CB- Josh does sound just like Chloe too!

Usandnosleep- that woman sounds like a real pain. She might have had something interesting to say but calling 2 sleep-deprived mothers 'silly' because they're getting up to feed a baby is NOT useful advice!!