***************December 2006 ****************

[lucy5]

I can't access the thread with my rubbish Spanish internet connection. Could someone start a new thread and link it on the old one too. Thankyou. Hope alls well!

...and she sleeps.....

tick tock tick tock....

i spend all of dds sleep time wondering if/when she'll wake up

lol, I do that, not in the evenings thy are almost guaranteed until 10 now but after that, will it be 2 hours? 3? 1.5? who knows.

lol. she woke at 9. fed, back down at 9.30.

so unsettled at the moment.

So is this an early teething thing? Ds2 still doing his feeding, fussing, sleeping briefly then feeding and fussing again from about 1:30 to 4:30 am Ds1 wasn't particularly bothered by teeth until the molars so I have no experience of this.

dunno jabber. my dd1 didnt get teeth until 8 months although i seem to recall blaimng every grizzle from about 3 months on teething

Pleased I'm not the only one with a grizzly baby! I wondered if it's teething as well. She's still sleeping well but seems less happy when awake. Quite red cheeked and gurny. My other 2 were completely fine about teething and didn't get any until later either. Hurumph. Just as we get over one hurdle there appears another. I tried some teetha and it seemed to help.

Ah yes, the joy of the 6 Nations, Daddy gets baby and mummy gets bath...mmmmm....Clean again!
I love it though that when I am in the bath I can hear dh trying to explain the rules of rugby to an 11 week old!! DS probably is a better listener than I am during the rugby matches though.

Very of those of you who got a bath during this weekend's feast of sport.

DD2 has completely changed her routine in the past couple of days. She had been sleeping for a couple of hours every day - sometimes mornings, sometimes afternoons, but always a good stretch. She has apparently concluded that sleep is for wimps and refuses to nod off for even a few minutes during daylight hours. Its not all bad, as she does lie quite happily in her cot, cooing away, while I do the ironing

Ds2 and I may be banished downstairs again. Dh just informed me that lack of sleep/interrupted sleep can cause high blood pressure. He seems determined to blame all of his health issues on me and the boys Ds2's new sleep pattern is wearing us all down I guess.

On the plus side it is a gorgeous day outside. I'm thinking of taking ds2 out in the stroller.

Hi Ladies - I missed you all!

Satinshoes - like you i spend all my time when DS is asleep wondering when he'll wake, has he had too much (can go for 4 hours some times) o is he going to wke after 10 minutes. I really need to instil a routine I can continue round DD's pre-school run.

Also glad to see I am not alone with the howling baby. Today DS has driven me to the brink, where I actually had to hand him to DH and go and ge DD out of her bed for a cuddle in ours! She seemed to understand why and even laid her face on mine, which is something we do to each other for comfort - I love my litle girl when she's like that - it actualy made me feel like our roles had been momentarily reveresed

So, is it teeth - he keeps stuffing his hand in his mouth. And he continues to eat and eat. Guess what... . DS had a Petie Filous today! And he loved it - it's the only time he smiles lately after being fed (oh and when in the bath or naked), and after this he had a huge grin. I have tried him a couple of times with baby rice - but he spits it out - can't blame him, it smells and looks like wallpaper paste!

Someone asked me after the other days post how early weaning would help his breathing...well because he is so greedy, he guzzles and catches his breath which he then struggles to start breathing again so the GP said by early weaning we would be irradicating some of the extreme hunger, not to mention guzzling as it's by spoon - so less chance of another breathing fit.

Namechanged from Margo BTW but only for a little while.

Went to the doctors today as I thought that I had a UTI and I met the nicest doctor. She was a fairly new mum - she has just stopped b/f in the last few days, her baby is 1 y/o. She said that she has only just started to lose weight since she stopped. The same happenened with dd1 - I lost a stone once I stopped. So I am going to work on damage limitation and cope with the guilt of stopping bf with the fact I may lose some weight. Not that I am planning to stop any time soon. I have just got into the swing of it now

Hi Milkshake,

It's good to have a bit of time with the older ones, me and dd1 went to bounce and rhyme together and left dd2 with my mum.

Wow, I hope the feeding does help your ds, you deserve a bit of calm in your house.

I keep looking at my LO and thinking, soon you're going to be interested in food and then crawling, then walking and bang you're a teenager! Why are they growing so fast?

I had a lovely cuddle earlier with dd2, gave her a good nuzzle and lots of kisses. I gave her a good sniff as well and tried to commit it to memory.

I heard that there's some reserach that links early weaning (before 6 months) with food allergies in later life because the gut is still immature.........might be worth checking up on?

Runninglate - I read the thread on MN about that. But I am a staunch "it worked for my daughter so it will work for my son" person.

Besides I was advised by my GP and he would not advise me to do anything which would risk my son's health.

So many people I have spoken to in RL have weaned before 16 weeks, including me with DD - some as early as 8 weeks (a pre-school keyworker). I dont think anyone openly admits to it until someone else says they did it, simply because they don't want to get lynched by those who stick to the 4 month rule and read all the reasearch - I am not in anyway insinuating that's what you are doing RL - but that thread was pretty heated and for that reason I am not mentioning it outside of our little thread.

In my case it's one health reason verses another, and it makes for a happy little boy for at least 10 minutes of the day.

oooh I didn't know there was another thread on it - I may go for a riffle!

Please don't think I'm criticising you AT ALL - you know what it's like - you hear a little something somewhere and then feel duty bound to pass it on just incase there's something in it. Which incidently, I have no idea whether there is or not!

LFM, you do what's right for you and your LO it really is nobody's business but your own. I know plenty of people who were weaned early (me included) who have no allergies or health worries. DS & DD1 were both weaned at 16 weeks because "thems was the rules then". I can't believe it's changed that much in 2 years!

milkshake - sounds like you are doing the right thing.

i gave dd1 some baby rice at 4 months. stopped as she came out in eczema and then did it again at 5 months just to be sure it wasnt the food causing it. will do the same for dd2 if she seems more hungry than normal.

although i am very pleased as the cluster feeding seems to have eased off a bit in the evenings and we have had 3 'slept through all night' nights out of the last 4. even if she has been a grumpy so and so for a bit.

erm...what is the weaning guideline now? 6 months?

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaalso, as a mother of TWO gastric reflux babies, once they start getting some solid food inside them, it does stop it from coming back up again

Yes satin, 6 months.

HV's advise to wait till 16 weeks f possible...6 months is better - but I think that's mor aimed at BF's and we all know my boobs are ornamental!!

BTW DS is 13 weeks tomorrow!

RL - I know you were'nt being critical - we are all too nice to do that on this thread!
But I wanted to say I did hear about the research, but decided to ignore it! Like the one about not using Johnson products on babies becuse it causes who knows what including cancer!! MIL and SIl gave us so much Johnsons that if I did'nt use it I dont know what I would do with it? Although Expat suggested using the bath stuff for delicatesin the wash!

Milkshake - I also think that if he's keeping anything down, then it's a bonus for you. I found it much better when dd1 weaned at 5 mths as she didn't posset any more. Although now you have to cope with smellier nappies and different colour poo!!

Margo (sorry you're new name is too long ), Eli warned me that Gaviscon would make DS consitpated, but I found it was more like play dough. So to compensate he's on prune juice as well - which he absolutley loves as well!. Feeding babies is like a juggling act!

Isn't it just!

A flying hello....what a full-on couple of days, in all sorts of ways both dd related and not. Very interesitng to see a lot of weaning talk going on, was just thinking about it (ahead of time) today. dd is nearly 16 weeks now, and has been very very hungry the past few days, and waking every 3-4 hours again

I did start slow weaning with dd1 at 4.5 months, and her digestion improved immeasurably straight away - looking back, I think she had silent reflux, though not as bad as dd2's. I plan to do the same this time, if she gives the same cues - dd1 guzzled her first spoonful of babyrice, never stuck her tongue out or spat any, and has been a good eater ever since. Fingers crossed for same again.

It was my birthday yesterday (sigh) and amongst plenty of much more indulgent presents, dh gave me the no-cry sleep book obviously hoping I'd fix dd2 and get us some decent nights. Too bad, I read a bit today and it basically says 2-3 night wakings at less than 4 months is totally normal, and 'sleeping thorugh the night' means sleeping a five hour stretch. Ha, some night!