March 2016 Babies Thread #11 - We've got smiley babies, screaming babies and farty babies!

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This time last year....my nephew was days away from being born, I was planning a wedding and looking forward to that holiday.....little did I know that I would fly home with a little souvenir

If I put C to bed at 10 he'll sleep until 7-8, earlier and he feeds at 4am.

Thanks for the sympathies!!

FS we are the same as you, rarely get her down before 9.30-10. Everyone I know IRL seems to be earlier so glad to hear a few others are the same!

If I put her down for the night after her penultimate feed (6.30 ish), she won't actually go to bed until about 8 - have to keep her upright after eating for ages due to her reflux, and she then wants to play and takes forever to actually get to sleep. But then she just wakes up at 8.30 and we have to go through the whole routine again, meaning she's down at 10. So until she drops that last feed it will always be late. I've tried giving her more in the day but she never takes more than 3-5 ounces per feed. I'm jealous of everyone that can just give them a feed and baby goes down immediately afterwards!

Baby wakes up 5.30 - 6 ish so now I'm worried she's overtired if that's too early. It wouldn't surprise me though as she takes 4 30 min naps and maybe one longer one of an hour or two if I'm lucky!

Onto the 3rd wake up of the night - oh how I miss that week of sleeping 9-4! He's every 2.5 hours now and won't settle without a boob, ive tried, it becomes screams

Oh Q, that sound tough. We are up too but he's awake for the morning. Had to settle him twice with the dummy last night time but it was very quick. Dummy in and gone.

Marmite I would definitely get it checked with a GP if you are concerned. If it is that, it's best to start the physio while they are young. For us it was feeding him on that side to encourage him to move his head and stretch that muscle, play with him that side, put music that side etc. There were a few other stretches but nothing too difficult. He did get quite a flat head because of it but now he's 4 you can't tell.

Rough night here too. Up three times for the baby and accidentally woke dh up on one of them when a door slammed because of the wind. He was fuming as he has an important meeting at work today and needed a good nights sleep, totally overreacted though and really upset me

Oh sorry to hear that me. Shame he overreacted tbh, I'm sure it won't kill him!

Not a bad night. DS fed at 9 but then not up til 2.30. Then 4.30, then up for the day at 7. My NCT group think he's a dreadful sleeper but tbh this was the kind of thing I was expecting with a young baby!!

I try not to worry too much about what other babies are doing, some of us are early risers or night owls so why should babies be any different.

C goes to bed anywhere between 7 and 8, I just put her in het cot, she cries for a couple of minutes then falls asleep. If I tried to rock her she would either stay awake or wake up when I then put her down. If she's still crying after 5 mins I go in, calm her down and leave her again. Only took a few naps/sleeps and she got the hang of it. I wouldn't say its cc or cio as if she cries her distressed cry rather than her tired cry I would always go in straight away. I've done this with both mine, with ds from about 5 months and with dd from about 3 months. Both times I didn't think it would work but it did, might be worth trying for some of you. Time the 5 mins on your phone, when they are crying it feels like forever then you look and its been about 2 mins!

Lol at your NCT group thinking your DS is a terrible sleeper maybe - they should have met my DD1 as a baby! At this age she was up 5-6 times a night. I kept a sleep log at the time as I had read it was supposed to help seeing things get better (but gave up on it as things didn't improve and it was too depressing!). I still have them and dd1s record was 8 wakes between 8pm and 7am. That's what you call a terrible sleeper! Though I guess it's all relative!

Having a bit of nap refusal this morning from dd2 and I have dd1 to look after so struggling to put the time in to get dd2 to sleep... it's going to be a long day...

I don't manage to put dd down until 10ish either. She does doze and feed all evening, but if I try to put her in her cot earlier she wakes right up. I've been getting her ready for bed at 7 when ds goes, popped into her bag and everything, but then she comes back out to the living room until we go to bed.

I don't mind at all because she sleeps quite well once she does go down and she's quite content when she's up, so as long as I get some sleep I'm happy. Ds was the same and like some of you I felt pressured by all my friends putting theirs down at 7 and like I was doing something wrong, so I started trying to do the same. It was a disaster!!! Kicked off months and months of hourly waking. So I'm just going to go with it for now and keep testing to see if she'll go down earlier.

I know marmite right!! They keep telling me I should call in a sleep consultant. For a three month old!!!

I'd be delighted if he slept through obviously but it's not weird that he doesn't ffs.

We rarely get E down before 10. It is a bit lazy on our part as that way she has a last feed and I go to bed when she does. But although she naps around 7-8 she is then wide awake again and I just don't fancy dashing up and down stairs to pop her dummy in. Generally she will only briefly rouse in the night and not fed again til at least 4am and even 6-7 the last few nights so it is working for us.

NCT coursemates seem to all have 7 or so as bedtime though I know many battle with rocking and soothing for ages at this time whereas at 10 E goes in her basket (cot from tonight!) wide awake and self settles. Easier on her, easier on us I think.

DS has been screaming and refusing to feed since 9. I've had to give him a bottle of formula which I feel dreadful about. He took that no problem.

I'd pumped earlier (and put in freezer) so could it be id emptied my boobs? I hand expressed some into his mouth but he just got more and more worked up.

Why do kids always choose the most annoying times to faff around. I'm feeding Cassidy mid way through a long car journey and she has decided to just smack her lips on my boob instead of latching, she's never done this before! Of course if I give up and carry on driving no doubt she will be starving within seconds. At least I stopped at a services that has a costa...

It's good to know we're not the only ones doing the late bedtime thing!

DS is so unsettled it's unreal. He's always been hard to get to sleep but the only things that work now are taking him out in the car, or lying down next to him. If he was content when awake I wouldn't try to make him sleep, but he's not so it's obvious he NEEDS to sleep. He was up almost hourly again last night. I hope this is leap 4 and not just how it's going to be from now on :|

maybe don't feel dreadful about the formula, sometimes you've just got to do what you need to do to get them fed. Your boobs will constantly be making milk so they're never empty, could it be a growth spurt or something? DS gets annoyed at my boobs during them or if he's got wind/tired.

DS down for the night at 6.15 again!!

Don't think growth spurt as he took boob fine again later today - he'd had crap short naps this morning so I reckon he was overtired, he slept for nearly 2 hours this afternoon and was a lot more cheerful after that.

Visiting family tomorrow 3 hours' drive away and feeling nervous as he's so often unsettled with new people.

fs sorry your DS is unsettled (I know how you feel!!). Fx for a better night for you.

Mrs hope the rest of your car journey went well.

DS last night slept 6.30 -8.30, 8.45 -2.30, 2.50 - 5, 5.15 - 7.30 so I guess he wakes up quite a bit but at least he goes back to sleep quickly.

FS "I hope this is leap 4 and not just how it's going to be from now on :|"
It won't be like that forever. I know it feels like it but it'll be different again in a week! Go with the flow if you can.

Sympathy maybe. DS2 does this. He'll be obviously hungry but gets himself so worked up he can't/won't feed. Sometimes the dummy helps, often we just have to ride it out and try again later.

Regarding formula though, I was perusing the brands yesterday. I think we'll start to mix-feed soon. Which is the best brand? I saw the Aptamil one that said "breastmilk substitute" or something, and thought that was audacious marketing!

DS2 seems to have got over his virus. He's got a bit of a sticky eye, and hasn't pooed at all today. I've left him off the gaviscon for today. I'm expecting a poorly-timed poonami in the next few hours!

Dom-
I use cow and gate 1st stage for dd.
All though she may be allergic her poos are normal and frequent on it and she doesn't fuss or scream during feedings and burps pretty easily.
Cheaper than aptamil and I don't believe their so much difference between the two.

My mum has taken dd tonight. But she did phone and say she's struggling to settle her and she may have to bring her back to me...

Dom I think formula is all pretty much the same. I use Aptamil but only through habit. If you check out the ingredients I'm sure they are much the same.

I'm getting pretty fed up of the 'isn't he big' comments now. He's 4 months on Sunday and we've just put him in 6-9 clothes. I know he's chunky but he drains his bottles and he has the max he's supposed to have for his age. We've just started the hungry milk although that doesn't seem to have made much difference. I'm also fed up of the comments to DS1 saying 'why aren't you in school?' Had it from the nurse giving J his jabs this week and it's in such an accusatory tone. He has only just turned 4 and goes in Sept. I'm probably being over sensitive but feel like I'm being judged all the time.

Oh Rhu in get the opposite

"She's Tiny"
Actually know shes just under the 25th centile now grr. She's in 0-3 clothes. I sorted out all the newborn clothes today and put them away :'(. I can remember just yesterday when tiny baby and early baby clothes where massive on her. She is stretching 0-3 vests but not the baby grows yet

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Rhu we get the same D is in 9-12 month baby grows. However only 6-9 month tops and trousers he's all funny proportions. I put a pic of ds1 as a 8 month old on Facebook today and everyone thought it was D.

rhu wooden time We get all kinds of "she's so small!" and "she's so big!" comments, no one's got a fucking clue how big T ought to be. FWIW, she's 75th centile, pretty normal, but long in the body so she's just gone into 6-9 clothes. I just smile and say something non-committal like "and she has hair!".

Thanks Dom. Regarding formula, the only one I've heard bad things about is SMA.

I wonder if the comments like "isn't he big" ever stop. Like when you're pregnant - "are you sure there's just one in there?", "who ate all the pies?" etc. eye roll.

Ok I need some tips from my mum... ( c stayed their last night )
She settled Calais at 11:00pm she slept until 4:00am down at 4:30 then up at 9:00am!
Apparently at 4am and 9am she drained 9oz each time! She's only ever taken a max of 5oz. And she wasn't sick either mum said...

Hey all... sorry I've not been around - RL kind of got crazy for a while.

I've got a bit of catching up to do. Best go and have a read

Hope everyone is doing well x