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clairemow · 04/01/2007 14:12

New thread for us....

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clairemow · 11/02/2007 19:52

hi kiera, of course join us! We're quite friendly, but don't have any magic solutions to 2 hourly waking I'm afraid... But lots and lots of sympathy.

We had a great day today, went to Wookey Hole with the boys. DS1 was really excited about "Dinosaur Valley", but then was a bit scared the dinosaurs might be in the cave... once he'd got over that, it was really good, although F did yell a bit in the last, very dark, very echoey cave..!! But he was really good all day, esp considering we totally buggered about with his routine .

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kseaj · 11/02/2007 20:07

hi all

I have also been shot down by some mn's and we love petit filous in this house.

Anyone got any tips on how to deal with a 2.10 boy having problems with his temper lately he will not do anythging i tell him and yesterday he bit ds2 finger

Ds2 is doing very well at the moment and is such a happy little baby.

kseaj · 11/02/2007 20:09

forgot to say welcome to kiera

clairemow · 11/02/2007 20:54

kseaj, we have tantrums sometimes with DS1 too.. Usually he gets one warning if it involved attacking DS2 (not often thank god!), and if he does it again he goes to his room on his own until he's ready to say sorry. Works because he knows he's being ignored by being in his room, and the behaviour isn't getting attnetion. He doesn't want to miss the action. Now I just have to threaten the room and he will usually stop. Also when he's nice to DS2, he gets lots of "oh what a lovely big brother you are", "DS2 really likes that, look at him laughing" - lots of praise for good behaviour. I am a fan of Christopher Green's Toddler Taming books, can you tell??!!

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homemama · 11/02/2007 21:49

Hi everyone!
Mabel, sorry you've been made to feel like you're poisoning your baby. It makes me so mad when people behave like that on what is supposed to be a support forum. I think we're pretty mixed on this thread; BFs and FFs, varying degrees of routine etc but I haven't noticed anyone show any kind of snobbery or superiority about their choices. LOL at listing the ingredients for you, how patronising!

I remember in my very first week of joining, there was a thread about children going on holiday during term time. I posted saying that whilst this was never ideal, in areas such as the one where I taught (very deprived inner city) where the parents simply couldn't afford school hol prices then I thought it was acceptable. Many of these kids have nothing so who am I to say they can't have a few days by the coast with their parents. Well you would have thought I'd suggested it was ok for them to bring guns to school judging by some of the responses. It did put me of a little.

Just to add, I weaned DS with spoons at 4mths and he gobbled it up from day1. He never had any problem with lumps and still has a huge appetite and will eat almost anything. DD is nearly 5mths but she's not ready yet. Oh and lots of petit filous here too.

Cori, hope DD is feeling better soon. Fairy, sorry you had to change your name. No advice on the early wakenings. Could it be because it's lighter in the mornings? Do you have a blackout blind? I shalln't tell you off if you don't! Welcome Kiera

Oh and Marls, I like your piece and would have shown it to DH but he spent most of Fri with both of them so I think he got the picture judging by how shell shocked he looked afterwards (and how much wine he drunk that night)

fairysnuff · 11/02/2007 23:53

I am awfully glad you won't judge me, but of course I have a black out blind, I am a wonderful mother (nose held in air)

It was 2.30 last night she has not done that to me since she was a newborn!!
But straight back to sleep, lucky me.
I posted on another thread and someone said it may be a growth spurt which would make sense. I now realise, doh! She went from 12.6 to 13.8 in two weeks. Thats quite a jump, don't you think?
Also it could be teething, someone said they thought they could see a tooth today. But I don't think it is, she is not complaining, just grumbling at ungodly hours!
Ah well, I will just keep going. Though the thread did leave me mighty confused as to know what the signs are! Someone kept poo pooing every suggestion for what to look out for.
How will I know? Is it an instinct thing?

Hiya to kiera, this really is a good thread to join, I still feel a bit like a newby but a very welcome one. I also like it cos there is not too many people,so I feel I can keep up.
When it was the anti-natal thread, there seemed to be hundreds of us and I really couldn't keep up. Hope they are all well though, it really helped too.
Sorry I am gibbering tonight DD and DH are in bed and I am taking my chance to chat!!
Really best get to bed though, who knows what time she will have me up tonight, wee fatty that she is becoming!

MunkiBaby · 11/02/2007 23:54

Hello Hello Mummies! and welcome kiera! my ds is 20 weeks tomorrow and he's still waking quite a bit in the nights, so just like some of the other mum's have said: you are not alone in this battle. tonight, we've attempted (yet again) a bit of crying down to get him to sleep in his new cotbed/crib. he wasnt having any of it for the 1st two hours. he was wailing the saddest little cry! awww it was hard not to cuddle him to sleep in my own bed.

things are a bit unsettled for him at the moment: moving rooms, new cotbed, teething like mad, cold, ear infection, etc. He cant seem to get comfy anywhere else except in my arms. awww.

on a related note: we have a tooth peeking through this would explain the teething business, associated with the grabbing of the ears, obvious discomfort. Should i be concerned about the ear grabbing/possible mild infection? is it more than likely related to the teething? (( forgive me if thats in the 'basic mum stuff manual', im so terribly new at all this )) also, besides calpol and teething tablets, anything else i can do to help with his discomfort??

mabel1973 · 12/02/2007 08:59

Hi all!

we have a tooth! I thought he was knawing a bit hard on me at feeding times .

Fairy - it could be a growth spurt, just try and ride it out for a week, and if it doesn't settle down then it maybe that she is hungry. It is very confusing when you post for advice on a thread for things like weaning, as everyone gives different advice. I saw one a couple of weeks ago, where someone had said 'go with your instincts' and she got shot down for saying that. I think some people adhere so strictly to the 6 month guidelines, as if it's a competition, at the end of the day every baby is different, so i think you have to trust yourself to a certain extent.

Munki - the ear grabbing could be that he is feeling uncomfortable there, but my ds1 has had a 'thing' about ears since he was tiny, he always holds his ears when he's going off to sleep, and when he's tired and having a cuddle he often holds on to mine or DH's ears, and even the cats ears and DS2's ears! Strange child!

oh and welcome kiera!

Myrtle1 · 12/02/2007 11:05

Hello All,
Got back yesterday from visiting in-laws. ClaireMow, we were down your way again and popped into Nailsea to see SIL. DH had an interview at Yeovil on Thursday - still not heard anything though and then on Sat we went to see England v Italy rugby at Twickenham which was great (My brother got us tickets for xmas)

DS seems to be waking more again, every 3 hours last night. He is bottle feeding twice a day now and loves it and sometimes rejects the breast . I don't know why he is waking more in the night, its so exhausting.
Kiera - My DS was born on 20th Sept too

mabel1973 · 12/02/2007 11:20

just dug booster seat out of the shed for DS2 to use and quite frankly it is in a bit of a state, DS1 hasn't used it for about 8 or 9 months and the straps are all mouldy ...
any ideas how to get it clean?
it sat in a bath of bleach at the moment. (the whole thing ...the straps aren't detatchable.

kiera · 12/02/2007 13:08

mabel - why don't they make booster seats with detachable straps? we have same problem with our booster - stupid! ds1 is still little so we're going to buy a second one for ds2.

I weaned ds1 at 4 months on then advice of hvs (!!!) and he was fine and has always loved his food. I fed him in a spare car seat as he was too little for a highchair. found it in the garage a while back and it was covered in mould too, had to take it to the skip! lol

myrtle - hello! we have recently been trying lo with a bottle at night so I can get more sleep, also I have a saturday job I have to go back to next weekend. he has taken to it like a dream and last night took 7oz! don't know whether to be or - I love bfeeding.

homemama · 12/02/2007 13:34

Congratulations on the tooth, Mabel! DD's gums feel sort of sharp so I thinks hers are on the way too. By booster seat do you mean car booster or for the table (or something else?) sorry to be stupid

Munki, ear pulling is usually either tiredness of teeth. I asked the doctor once if it could be an ear infection and he said if it was I'd know about it because ear infections make small babies cry incessantly. Hope this helps. DS never really did this, DD does it all the time but she's a much poorer napper than he was so I'm sure it's tiredness. Not sure if you're BF or not but he also told me that ear infections in BF babies under 6mths were rare not because they were on BM but because of the jaw action required to BF. Oh and have you tried ashton&parsons powders. I thought they'd be rubbish but they certainly helped DS.

Fairy, re the instinct thing, maybe I'm not the best mum but I found I never knew anything like that just by instinct. I probably worked everything out a bit later than I should have. oh well, haven't killed them yet, despite that awful pink yoghurty stuff!

bristols · 12/02/2007 14:01

Fairy - have just seen your thread in the weaning section. You have a lot to answer for, young lady! Its all kicked off there Its quite comical really. Yet again, people are shooting others down. When will they learn? It seems you got the answer to your question, so well done

Have been cooking and pureeing some veg today (don't tell the BLW brigade) in preparation. DS still more than happy with his milk so we don't need to start with the solids just yet. Must get in some petit filous too... I'd better not mention that I let DS lick some custard off my finger yesterday

Keira - welcome. Hopefully you'll find us a friendly lot. We're very accepting of each others' ideas and just like to support each other.

Myrtle- sounds like a fantastic weekend.

Better go and get DS up from his nap. Off to the gym this afternoon to 'introduce' him to the creche. Hope he doesn't disgrace me by sicking/peeing/pooing all over the place!

bristols · 12/02/2007 14:03

Just want to add that I'm not against BLW, just didn't think it was for us. Don't shoot me!!!

mabel1973 · 12/02/2007 15:24

oh fairy - must check out your thread....! It might make me feel better that it's not just me! hee hee!

Bristols - I did some pureeing last night too, after much thought, i decided that BLW is not really for me (and that's nothing to do with the lack of support I would get from the 'so called experts!), I just worry that I can't really judge how much he'd be getting and if he's actually eating enough. I knwo it's easier when they're older, but at the moment, food is a very starnge concept to DS2 and he needs a little gentle pursuasion, I am sure if it were up to him he'd never wean. However I will probably be more inclined to use more finger food than I did with DS1, I was always terrified of him choking.

Anyone know if I can buy a new harness from anywhere, I checked the bleached straps, that i left in the bath while we were out at playgroup and it's not shifted the mould stains.

Homemama - it's basically a plastic seat with a aback, that you strap on to your dinig room chair, with a removable tray. Takes up less space than a conventional high chair. I think mine came from argos it was only about £12.

kiera · 12/02/2007 16:00

what a lovely welcome and how refreshing to find a thread where people are a bit more broadminded shall we say. my SIL and I are poles apart on parenting style and we have to not talk about certain "issues" so we can stay friends lol!

JingleBelle · 12/02/2007 16:28

Hi All, have not posted for a while, but have been lurking and seeing how you are all progressing - your LOs all seem to be doing amazingly. DS has a cold and seems to be teething at the moment (everything in sight in his mouth and drooling lots), has made him want to be cuddled lots, but hey, I quite enjoy it, so it's no big worry.
Re. weaning, am avidly reading how you are all doing, as we are holding off to 26 weeks because that is what is advised for reflux babies (to allow time for gut to mature and hopefully vomiting to stop), but am looking forward to it - am going to go down the puree route, purely because I think DS would put anything in his mouth and quite happily try to much stuff which would be a bit big , but we'll see how it goes. He's never slept through the night, so don't have that as an indicator of readiness.
Liquid - how is the hypoallergenic formula going? Has it made a difference to the vomiting and eczema? I guess it might be a bit soon to tell. Don't know whether to say I hope it is helping or not, 'cos on the one hand eczema is not nice (I have it too), but on the other, it would be nicer for your LO not to have allergies/intolerances (I have them too - oh, seems to be a pattern here!).
So agree with the sentiments about what a nice thread is, in particular as opposed to some of the other threads where you can just get shot down from all different angles.
Saw your post Fairy and was disappointed by some of the responses you got - how negative to dismiss all suggested signs of desire to take solids! Made me laugh to read that and then come on here though - we are all such nice people, obviously !
Right, DS is sleeping loads today (had a big nap in pushchair in town and then fell asleep on way home too and has yet to wake up) think he needs it due to his cold though, as he's not one for sleeping unless he needs it - hope it doesn't mean he won't sleep tonight! I ought to go and make some noise downstairs to see if he will wake up.
Welcome Keira by the way.
Oh, and I've forgotten who posted about mould on the booster seat, but is it possible to put the whole thing in the washing machine (I did that with the seat cushions (and straps) from a swing that we've been lent (fabricy/plasticy straps with plastic fastenings) and it came up well) - or is it the seat that won't go in the washing machine? Maybe you don't want to risk damaging your wm though (I am possibly a bad housewife as well as bad mother ). Alternatively, you can buy mould and mildew spray for use around the house, don't know if that might work on the straps too? Got some here you can borrow, shall I attach it to a message (how useful would that be if the technology existed - feeling all sci-fi now).
Right, am really rambling - must go.

fairysnuff · 12/02/2007 18:02

Well at least I didn't feel so victimised this time, I just let the comments wash over, anyway they seemed to be fighting amongst themselves. Best left to it!!

I am also waiting for DD to wake up. I got her all bundled up, ready to take the dog for a walk and when I turned around she was soundo. So I though I would just leave her and relax for a bit. No point walking when I can take time out. But that was nearly 2 hours ago DH has come home and taken the dog out instead. So when she wakes up I will prob just take her out of her outdoor things!! I know, I am a bad mother, she should have got her air. But why disturb such a peaceful baby?

Oh, Keira, I know what you mean! My SIL and I are on different planets too! But we don't really talk anyway so not talking about parenting is a given. Good job too!!
If you read back on this thread you will see me having a rant! And all you guys just let me get on with it without getting to involved, best response I could have got! I would have ranted for ever!
Writing everything (and I mean everything) down in a book!? Madness, I say, MADness!!

Back to nasty MNs, I was also on a thread asking about slow let down, and it was brilliant to see Tiktok come on in and tell someone off for speaking tosh! Thats what we need, someone to just come along and shoot these nasties down in flames!
DH reckons they should be banned for the site if they are going to be mean. He says thats what happens on other sites? But I think parenting is such a personal thing, how could you police it?
To each their own, but there really is never a need to be dis.....whats the fancy word? Just tell them to stop being meanies!

fairysnuff · 12/02/2007 18:26

Just checked on the weaning thread.
Blimey! It really got carried away!!
I got a litle bored though and sort of feel like I would like to post, that all their arguing did not help me make my decision! So their arguments over giving the best advice was not in the least helpful.
Silly ladies

Coriander73 · 12/02/2007 19:37

Evening!

Can I ask, what's so wrong with purees?? I pureed everything for DD at first then as she got a bit older starting leaving it a more lumpy etc. We've never had a problem with her eating & she loved finger foods from a very earlier age. Is there something I'm missing in this debate?

Can you believe that a week after stopping BF I just fed J again??! I feel a bit mixed up about it really. He just wouldn't settle, has a temp, doesn't seem himself so even though he had a bottle I just felt compelled to offer him the breast. He sucked away as if it hadn't been a week since he last fed but I felt odd about it - instead of just enjoying it I felt that I was doing something wrong & that if DH walked in I'd have some explaining to do. This probably all sounds a bit mad but I feel sad that I stopped, wish I could have carried on that bit longer & also why did it make me feel like I was doing something bad? Doesn't make sense....feel very teary...goodness...how strange.

Myrtle1 · 12/02/2007 20:24

Cori - just read your post on Fairysnuff's weaning thread They've all got themselves into such a state over this weaning advice haven't they?? DS had some carrot puree today and lapped it up while making lip smacking sounds

DH got the job in Yeovil so we may be moving again, all the way from York. I don't know that area at all. We would probably live in Ilminster. Does anyone know it, is it nice??

ps. Petit filous are on offer at sainsburys at the mo - buy one get one free

Coriander73 · 12/02/2007 20:31

Myrtle, I just couldn't resist...gosh, excuse me for being so frank but they all sound as though they are stuck up their own backsides... Some even saying that it's cultural conditioning that we give them food??!! I feel slighty antagonistic this evening so you must forgive my responses LOL at buy one get one free pf!!! Can't wait to give J some mashed banana......gosh, I can hear them on the other thread trying to reach into their pcs & grab me by my throat....!!!!!

clairemow · 12/02/2007 20:40

Goodness Cori, you're brave. I read the thread and decided against getting on my armour. I wonder how many other people are afraid to say what they would really like out of fear. I tend to avoid subjects that might get contentious...

Myrtle, congrats on DH's job! I don't know Ilminster really, but it sounds nice - all the other -minster places are...! And it's great down West, we love it.

Cori, I did the same with F after stopping feeding, I'd quite often give his bottle, and then finish off on the breast. It was so lovely, and I felt sad and nostalgic, just like you - even contemplated feeding him all day every day to try and build it back up. And one evening he was really beside himself about 5 pm while we were eating tea, and I just latched him on and he had a good old feed - that was 2 weeks after he stopped. I feel quite sad now that there really isn't anything there now for him to even try and get! So basically I'm trying to say don't worry about it if you have a sneaky feed every so often

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Coriander73 · 12/02/2007 21:14

I'm so

fairysnuff · 12/02/2007 23:15

I am not surprised coriander, they really went for you. But as you said they are obviously passionate about it, they are best left with their opinions and we will go with ours.
I am not going anywhere near the thread and it has to be said very few of them even reffered to the fact that I had asked the question in the first place.

I personally, would rather get the wooly answers and not the boring facts I think that babies are individuals and will ultimately make thier own minds up, but I do feel a little scared now of starting her too soon They made the consequences sound so dire, if I make the wrong choice. And, for me that is not what MN is about.

Welcome back, don't go leaving us again, its scary out there. Hugs!