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September 2006 babies - smiles all round!

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clairemow · 04/01/2007 14:12

New thread for us....

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mabel1973 · 09/02/2007 21:14

been having a gret time in the snow, DS1 particularly loved me throwing snowballs at him!!! He got quite hysterical with giggling and then fell over, which made me laugh then kept doing comedy falling over on purpose!!! Sooo funny.

Liquid - don't feel guilty - i remember DS1 falling out of bed, he was shaken but not hurt - but we felt awful!

I have posted on a BLW thread this afternoon, asking what you do about feeding things like yogurt and been told that 'yogurt is not an essential food' ' petit filous are gross' (ds1 has 1 of these everyday) and then had the entire ingredients list and nutritional info of petit filous typed out for me!!! FFS!!
I thought it was a perfectly innocent query - I wonder if some people are A) looking for a fight and B) have nothing better to do.
thta's the one thing that bothers me about MN - sometimes you ask a query and then feel like you are just waiting to get shot down in flames! It's ridiculous

compo · 09/02/2007 21:25

Oh I know exactly what you mean Mabel - that's why I ask most of my questions on this thread
Ds has had a petit filous a day since about 6 months i would say. He hasn't come to any harm. I always think that we have treats (usually wine and chocolate when the kids are in bed!) so why not let them? And it's not as if a yoghurt is a fruit shoot (which ds gets when we eat out anyway!). It's the mumsnet mafia at it's worst...

mabel1973 · 09/02/2007 21:47

arrrrrr Compo - thank you - feel I am going mad sometimes I am not going to be made to feel guilty about sodding petit filous!!! I replied that i didn't think it necessary for someone to type out all the ing list and nutritional content for me (esp as I have a dozen in the fridge - I can read!!) , then was accused of going mad about it - I REFUSE to be drawn in to an argument!

clairemow · 09/02/2007 21:49

Agree about treats - is a petit filou really a treat??? They're a staple pudding here along with fruit.

I'm always really self conscious about what I say on MN too, and afraid of being shouted at without realising I said anything bad! I think it has got better though recently, after there was that patch last year when it got really bad.

Today DS1 and I had lunch on the carpet in the lounge in front of Monsters Inc. How dreadful!! He knew it was a treat and so did I...

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mabel1973 · 09/02/2007 21:57

claire - how awful....hope that didn't include petit filous

clairemow · 09/02/2007 21:59

no petit filous on the carpet!! Had ham sandwiches and tangerines and sultanas.

Where's the thread you were on?

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clairemow · 09/02/2007 22:00

thinking about it again, maybe it's not the eating on the carpet that's bad, it's showing a 2 year old Monsters Inc.... But he LOVES it, and I am fed up with the Sound of Music...!!!

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liquidclocks · 09/02/2007 22:58

We let DS1 watch monsters inc and a bugs life. He got a bit worried in parts but we were on hand for cuddles!

On a serious related note there's a lot of evidence to show that reading scary stories to kids (hansel & gretel and the like) is good for them and teaches them not to be so scaredy because you show that you're not scared. That's how I justify showing those movies anyway!

mabel1973 · 10/02/2007 08:37

claire it was the 'is baby led weaning just not giving jars and purees or is there more too it (sorry would post a link - but am crap!!!)
I logged onto it this monring, where I'd been told that Petit were gross, and me sayin g they're not gross is just a 'wooly personal opionion' and if I'm happy giving my child that amount of sugar, filler and minimal fruit content, then that's up to me, and that the poster (who will remain nameless) is perfectly allowed to have a superior attitude.....

I am not repsonding - It really isn't worth it!

Coriander73 · 10/02/2007 09:00

FFS....DD had petit filous from day one pretty much. Hasn't done her any harm at all. There are far worse yoghurts out there that have much much higher sugar content etc than pf. It makes me laugh as what are these people going to do when their children grow up? Stop them from having / trying foods that all chldren want to try??? Ignore them Mabel.

Had a couple of rough days with DD. Last two nights temp up to 41 & just has a horrible hacking cough etc. Yday she was so so clingy, couldn't anything at all. Luckily Jack was on best behaviour & pretty much amused himself which I felt awful about but what can you do? Today I feel rough & if I hadn't have done two negative pg tests I'd say I was pg - just all the same queasy yucky feelings. Perhaps I'm picking up DD's bug. Also although I stopped BF on Monday, just had a bath & I have still have milk in them....strange as I don't recall that with DD. Anyhow, made me feel quite teary, thinking that we'd come to the end of an era so to speak - a little self indulgent perhaps but do feel sad about it! Of course DH doesn't understand & thinks I should "get over myself"...

fairysnuff · 10/02/2007 10:48

Oh!
About two things!
Yes, I totally agree, I have been shot down on MN before, I was so upset about it I changed my nickname, I felt I would have been hounded afterwards. It is mad ro be scared of bullying on the net!!!
But then I found this thread and all is well.

Also, Coriander for your DH's comment! What a rotten thing to say. I mentioned to my DH that I would consider continuing BF into the first year. His face screwed up in disgust!! I agree, I don't want to feed past the point of it looking reasonable, but I am free to do as I please in my own home surely? And I was only meaning a morning and night time feed, maybe.
Hmf, Men!

fairysnuff · 10/02/2007 11:52

Gosh, I sounded very cross there must have got out of bed on the wrong side!

Some advice? DD has decided to start waking up at 5.30-7ish every morning for a feed. This is not norm for her. I was happy to go with it, thinking it wouldn't be for long, but it has been a while now.
Is she ready to wean?
Should I start giving her some food between her last night feeds (second to last feed at 7ish and last at 8.30ish)
Most books say to give lunchtime feeds first, but she needs to get through the night, will a lunchtime feed help??
So confused by it all and totally feel that it is too early! She is just 20 weeks, 21 on Tuesday. [frightened emoticon]

mabel1973 · 10/02/2007 16:20

cori - i would love it if the 'poster in question' s children grew up to only eat fish fingers! the annoying thing is ds has a great diet, much better than most of his mates - but i don't need to justify myself to her...

it sounds like you have a similar bug to the one we've all had and still recovering from.

Fairy i too am thinking of feeding for the 1st year, haven't mentioned it to dh yet....I know that by the end it willonly be two feeds a day, but we had some friends round last week and she is still feeding her DD at 19 months - good for her, but her DD kept putting herhand down her top and asking for milk - I really don't think I could be doing with that!!!!

bristols · 10/02/2007 16:51

Mabel - I happened to stumble across that thread yesterday and witnessed it all. It mad me realise how nasty some of the other MNers can be. And also how lovely, friendly and supportive everyone is on the Sep 2006 thread. That should be what this is all about. I totally agree with you that typing in the whole list of ingredients was just unnecessary. Try not to worry about it. It does make you more weary, though, doesn't it? TBH that sort of attitude puts me off the whole BLW thing anyway. If that's how it makes you, I'd rather stick with the purees

Fairy - sorry to hear the same happened to you. It seems crazy to me.

Took DS swimming yesterday and he loved it. My gym starts actual lessons at 6 months so I'm going to get him signed up for that. I think its important to be confident in water. Other than that, not much to report. Still nowhere near weaning and the "Lord Voldermort" system is working very well indeed.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend everyone!

Coriander73 · 10/02/2007 18:53

Fairysnuff...you did make me chuckle!! TBH, I did want to carry on BF for at least 9-12 months but as with trying to give birth naturally twas not to be either time!! I keep on telling myself that I've done a great job lasting nearly 5 months etc but there's still guilt, stupid really. Personally I blame the BF propoganda nazis as I call them...your damned if you & your damned if you don't!

Can someone explain what BLW is all about?!!!

Anyone for a petit filous?

Coriander73 · 10/02/2007 19:00

PS: Have just added 3 new pics on yahoo!!!

Marls001 · 10/02/2007 19:15

LOL about all of this too - had a post recently on Chat ("Children's Music: Why??") & someone shot me down as well.

It's too bad that people respond that way though. That wasn't a "button" of mine, but if it had been I would have def. gotten my feelings hurt.

Recall recent hubbub (extensively covered on the "Today" morning show here) regarding playgroups where moms had a glass or two of wine. Don't see anything wrong with that at all. A mountain was made out of it, though. Author of recent book called "sippy cups are not for chardonnay" - who advocates getting together for a social glass with the kids running around - was asked what she thinks of other women who are aghast as this practice. She said "It's just another way of one-upping your mothering skills. It's another way of saying - Aha! I caught you doing something Bad!!"

I see a lot of this on Mumsnet, directed at all kinds of people. Never on this thread; it's like a safe haven
The "exercise buddies" one is friendly as well

clairemow · 10/02/2007 19:22

I read the thread you were on too Mabel, and it did seem a bit scary! I think Aitchtwooh has a website all about it, a kind of blog. BLW is, as I understand it (ooh, help, might get it wrong..) when you wean without spoon feeding - babies eat what they can pick up and put into their mouths themselves, and regulate their own intake of food. They must be over 6 months for this, as I assume they have to be able to sit confidently etc. There were mentions on THAT thread of recipes for porridge that you can pick up - not sure how that works, it must be thicker than normal I guess. Anyway, I weaned DS1 really successfully the traditional way and he never had problems with lumps etc., and now has a reputation for eating anything in sight (including petit filous... ). So I'm sticking with what I know. Also the control freak in me is worried by the thought of all that cleaning the kitchen floor when DS2 throws his BLW food about the room. Have enough of that with introducing finger foods anyway! Not to mention having to sit back and think he hasn't eaten enough! My personality just won't let me do it...

Rant over.

Fairy, I started F weaning at 21 weeks - he was drinking loads more milk, waking earlier, kept pulling at my food, crying when we were eating and trying to get hold of my hands to pull food to his mouth. From the first time a spoon went near his mouth he opened it up like a little bird and swallowed straight down. No spitting out at all. So I figured he was ready. I'm still taking it slow though as I know milk is still more important at this stage.

FWIW, I really love this thread too, you all seem very balanced and measured, and no-one is extreme one way or another (or maybe you're all hiding your extreme tendancies?? )

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clairemow · 10/02/2007 19:24

Marls, LOL, I had a friend and her baby and toddler round yesterday afternoon. By 4.45 we were on our first gin and tonic...(and only as I ran out of tonic )

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bristols · 10/02/2007 21:21

Claire - wish I was round at yours yesterday afternoon! Let me know next time and I'll bring the lemons

Marls001 · 10/02/2007 23:07

Claire - LOL!

liquidclocks · 11/02/2007 10:55

fairysnuff - sorry to hear you felt so bad to change your name. I've been shot down a few times, particularly by some of the MN 'originals' - I just bite back is all! Re weaning, sounds like you could start if you're happy to but if not you could always try moving the second to last feed around 6.30 ish then wait unitl 10pm (by which time there'l be hunger rather than nibbling) for the last one - hopefully then she'd have a good feed that would see her through until morning.

This is Aitch's blog: baby led weaning

I think the main difference in approach is missing out the puree/lumpy stage. I think a mix of all foods and consistancies is good for children though so I'm not sure I'd go along with it fully - each to their own!

liquidclocks · 11/02/2007 10:56

(wish I'd been there too Claire! I think my baby group would be to think of it!)

mabel1973 · 11/02/2007 13:34

thanks for your support guys - we are all nice resonable people, who, i think , get on really well on this thread, so when I hear that quite a high % of us have 'come under fire' from other MNetters, I think well it's not us, it's them....I think some people think that because they are not tallking 'face to face' they can basically say what they like....they wouldn't have the guts to say it to your face.
Anyway...I'm off for a peiti filous, anyone care to join me ....Ha ha!

Tried two rice feeds yestreday one at lunch and one at tea and he woke up at 2.30am , I guess he'd had too much rice and not enough milk....

Fairy - I started DS weaning this week and he is 21 weeks also, tbh honest my decision was due to a number of factors, he'd been waking early, and I think because we'd all benn ill and I felt rough, I just couldn't cope with the early morning feed, and thought enough's enough....not that it's made a jot of difference!

kiera · 11/02/2007 16:51

hello can I join you? (hello marls/cruise - from the sleep is for the weak thread!). my ds2 was born on 20th sept so just coming up to 5 months. I also have a 3 year ds1 at home.

any tips on what you did to stop 2-hourly night wakings?!?