We're still teething, trying to wean and our babies just won't go to sleep when we're trying to JS for another one, it's Just Mumming no. 11

[purpleporpoise]

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[jellypi3]

Welcome ma :)

[RPopz]

toast 4, 4 and 4!! One thing I have learnt during this gig is, you can fight it til you're blue in the face but sometimes they just don't sleep. You might never know why but just as you're on your knees it'll all change again. Unhelpful I know. This too shall pass and all that...

Personally I don't think there's a link between solids and sleep.

[CarrotPuff]

Toast I vote #4 too. It's probably just a phase, I hope it ends for you soon.

Definitely no link between sleep and solids. I would still introduce them once a day and see how she gets on.

[CountryGal4]

Bleurgh dh has gone to work today. R decided on every hour. He's also not gone for his daily ginormo pooh :S

Pud I know nothing about anything but am pretty sure an alarm is crazy! Good job for turning it off!

[Hobbit19]

Much better night last night. P woke at midnight and 4 but short wake ups each time so feeling a bit more refreshed today.

Toast, I can't believe Melba is 6 months! If your instinct is telling you that she is not ready for solids then go with that. You may feel differently in a week or two anyway.

[goodnessgraciousgoudaoriginal]

Hello everyone! This is the first time I've made it back onto mumsnet really since I (eventually!) managed to let everyone know on the grads thread that I had given birth!

Gouda,
1 DC,
8 weeks.

I had a quick look at the previous thread - it's really interesting to see the different sorts of issues people have to deal with as the babies get older!! Sort of....a forbearance of what's to come

First few weeks were very difficult on this end - I hadn't really bonded with mini cheese at all, and would find myself getting really angry at him when he wouldn't latch or woke me up at night. Obviously I never hurt him or anything, but I wasn't exactly gentle and loving with him , and would say the most horrible things to him (not that he understood, but still...) I feel awful about it now . In my defence, I had slept maybe 4 hours total in a full week by the time I got home from hospital, so I think that played a large part.

[goodnessgraciousgoudaoriginal]

carrot - the "changing mat" wees are definitely a massive PITA!! I don't know what it's like with girls, but with boys it goes everywhere !!! Not as bad as changing mat shits though!

Quick question: For those of you with cribs, what do you do with your baby during the day? Mini cheese spends most of his time in the moses basket, which I move from bedroom at night, to the living room in the daytime. Not sure what to do when he has outgrown the moses basket though which will be soon).

I'm also praying very hard that I'm not upduffed again!!!! We had a bit of a mishap a few weeks ago, but surely you can't get pregnant 4 weeks post partum.....right?!?!?!! (I'm breastfeeding.....)

[DulcetMoans]

Here you are, I will do better this thread I promise!

Name: Dulcet
Age: 30
DC: one DS, 7.5mnths, J

Hi ma, welcome! Have we seen you before? Half recognise your name. Any teeth yet?

Going against the grain here a little bit toast, but I had heard poor sleep can be related to needing to wean but everything is very keen to say that's not enough of a reason in itself. Go with your gut instinct, or take it slow and see what she does.

Can't believe you were still setting an alarm pud! Crazy! Let her lead you if she's gaining weight ok.

Will we get a little baby fashion show jelly??

Seems like the crazy doesn't disappear when TTC the second then popz!

Sounds rough over there JC, can you get a rest elsewhere in the day? Just to catch up? It can take a long time to sort sleep, as a lot of us know. It's got to be tough with insomnia too.

I had my birth afterthoughts session yesterday. It was much more positive than I was expecting and I didn't really cry! I can see where some things went wrong and made a bit more keen to try VBAC if we have another.

Right, shitty bum awaits me. I, not mine!

[Pisghetti]

Yo!
Pisghetti
36
Nearly 15 yr old and nearly 1 yr old how did they get so old?

Since my mega moan about sleep, things have improved. We only had one wake up at 3 last night. BabyPis woke up quietly this morning and I didn't know she was awake until she fell over in her cot and thumped her head. Much screaming and a nasty bruise. She happily accepted some boob to calm her down though which she hasn't done in the morning for a while.

How old do babies need to be for soft play? I'm thinking of taking BabyPis to a local play farm on her birthday but if the weather is shite (likely) then I might do soft play instead if she's old enough?

[honeysucklejasmine]

Gouda! Good to hear from you. So sorry to hear things weren't good with minicheese to start with. Well done on getting through it! Must have been a difficult time. [hugs]

A is starting to be a but restless now, fighting sleep a bit. She just screamed blue murder when her bottle was temporarily moved to wipe her face. Less than a second and she was expressing her extreme displeasure.

But right now she looks like an angel, so I will forgive her.

[Pisghetti]

Gouda I used a sleepyhead mostly but her little rocking chair had a lie flat option so I popped her in there sometimes. Do you have a carrycot with your pram? It is not impossible but unlikely that you're upduffed again. Any pissy sticks left?

[CarrotPuff]

Gouda I swear my DS didn't pee half as much. He never peed more than once. Today she weed again while I was changing her, and the puddle on the mat was so big she could literally dunk her feet in.

Sorry you had a rough start. Please don't beat yourself up, we've all been there and done it (la I meant to tell you that too). O was quite grizzly last night, and at one point I just shouted at her "What do you want?!!" Sleep deprivation is a form of torture, so be kind to yourself

Do you mean where babies stay in general or just for sleeping? Bouncy chair is good, I remember when DS was about 8 weeks he started to really like sitting there and watch me potter about. At the moment O is lying on her playmat with dangling toys (is that called baby gym?). We're doing tummy time but she's just lying there staring into space.

Yay for good night's sleep pud.

Got boob group today, but feeling very tired. DP all of a sudden got back spasm so he had to come wake me up to help him with DS.

[goodnessgraciousgoudaoriginal]

honey Mini cheese does that as well - it's funny how quickly their moods can switch!!! Bath time being a prime example....

Pigs no sticks left, but I will just wait and see. It's not like I'm boozing it up at the minute or anything!

[CountryGal4]

Must not moan baby can't pooh otherwise he will spend an hour straight poohing... Le sigh!

[goodnessgraciousgoudaoriginal]

country ooo but that's good!! That means a much less irritable baby when it's all out! !!!

[CountryGal4]

Yeah he's not grunty any more and is sleeping for longer stretches. Downside.... He definitely curled one out on the changing matt a la playdough factory

[honeysucklejasmine]

Ha ha ha ha Country! You poor thing! A seems to do two poos, every other day so next poo is due approx 11am tomorrow.

Gouda A sleeps on a beanbag during the day. Or on me, which I don't mind either. she's so friggin cute

So far A is still sleeping well. She's spending longer awake after feeds but then drops off in to a deep sleep. At night we swaddle her as she has a pretty impressive startle reflex. She does animal noise impressions immediately after falling asleep and also as she's waking up. If I am lucky I can catch her before she wakes fully and feed her as soon as she does to avoid the inpatient wailing.

[DulcetMoans]

Hi gouda! Must have cross posted earlier. Sorry to hear about the rocky start. They don't make it easy though with all the demanding stuff and not allowing any rest. I have had times I've picked J up more aggressively than I would have under normal circumstances (for you too la) and the felt awful but I think it's to be expected. We wouldn't let them actually be harmed. It's just the mental torture!

Well done on you for even DTD that soon after gouda! Impressive! FX you are ok the clear though. No Pom poms!

I went with my friend to soft play when her DD was just before 1 pis but they had a special littles area.

[RPopz]

Welcome gouda! Glad you're out of the dark place now. I was the exact same way with minipopz - definitely don't beat yourself up. It's tough living with a miniature dictator who you don't even know yet, on negative 29 hours sleep!

I've been taking minipopz to soft play since he was about 6 months old Pis. Only to places with special "crawlers" areas though.

I'm trying not to get too crazy Dulcet!! Its this stupid bleeding that has gone and got my hopes up/ confused the heck out of me though During my Googling of implantation bleeding I ended up reading loads of conception freds on various forums, and remembering the craziness/ desperation if it all!! I don't think it'll be like that again. It isn't yet anyway. Just impatient. Just ordered some ic pg tests so have banned myself from poasing until they arrive!

[RPopz]

How was your first day flying solo country?

[CountryGal4]

Not too bad thanks popz. Would have been better if he'd had slept like he normally did. I didn't manage a shower or getting dressed but did brush my teeth, batch cook some chilli and do a little bit of washing

[CountryGal4]

Oh god the conception phase... I can barely remember the crazy even though it was only 9 months ago!

[RPopz]

I'm hoping the crazy will be less crazy this time as a: I have a baby already to distract me and b: I already l know I can get upduffed now! Which was cause for much mentalism last time.

Sounds like a decent day to me country

[MaGratgarlik1983]

Hi dulcet! Yep he has two already since 4.5 mo the old but I think the top ones are on their way through. That coupled with separation anxiety equals nrrgggghhhhh.

Thanks for the welcomes everything.

[MaGratgarlik1983]

Everyone not everything!