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August 2015: Mugabe Nights better be getting quieter as our babies hopefully learn to sleep better

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Dozygirl · 01/03/2016 10:11

New thread for august 2015 babies

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FattyNinjaOwl · 06/03/2016 00:07

crafty how stressful for you Flowers hope you find somewhere soon.
coconut I was busy cleaning my cooker. boring
I really should be asleep as DP has the DC again, and I'm getting breakfast in bed.

NeedawittyNN · 06/03/2016 01:24

3rd wakeup of the night... :(

CraftyPenguin · 06/03/2016 01:33

Oops, nc fail. I wanted different NNs for on here and on the general boards incase anyone sil recognised me on here. Oh well, hardly posted on the other one.

We have to move as we're renting from dh's parents yet they don't speak to us. Told them we'd be claiming housing benefit and it all kicked off cos they've been renting to us without declaring it all etc. So now we probably won't be allowed to claim HB so we have to move because as it currently stands we can't pay the rent next month. They are ignoring dh's emails but demand he replies to theirs asap...so dh just doesn't want them to have any control over him anymore either so he just wants out.

Hope you all get lovely lie ins in the morning! I know dh will offer to take DD but he's a bit all over the place atm after being assaulted at work on Friday so I'm not counting on him having her. We were going to go to a lambing day thing today but it's a 90 min round trip so I don't think I'm up to the driving really (dh doesn't drive) so maybe we'll have a quiet day :)

Fatty stop cleaning your cooker and get to bed! Lol

FattyNinjaOwl · 06/03/2016 03:16

Still not asleep. Just can't seem to nod off.
crafty that sounds horrific. No wonder you want to move.

randomsabreuse · 06/03/2016 06:26

Crafty, what a nightmare! Hope something decent comes up for rent so you can escape but would try and avoid frying pan to fire situations!

Fatty - most frustrating thing in the world, being tired, knowing you should be asleep and being utterly unable to get there! Night before last night F was the only one asleep from 3!

On the ridiculously low sample size of n=2 we might have found the solution to F's 2 hourly wakeups in the last month. Was pretty certain she's hungry when she wakes the way she came at me open mouthed when I picked her up and because she was cluster feeding like a newborn all evening so decided DH would give her a couple of bottles of formula while I cook etc and she's made it from 11- 5.30 both nights. Didn't work when we got the timings wrong and she didn't want a last feed at 11 as she's only just fed.

Tried going back to disposable nappies as an effort minimisation tactic. It failed, at least doubled the number of wet changes - at least I know what to use when I start potty training given any wee makes a disposable totally unacceptable. Although I do prefer the look under clothes - in cloth the tiny stick like legs look ridiculous!

Also discovered that the cloth nappies make the car seat straps fit better - in a disposable her waist is so concave I can get my hand between her and the straps just above the buckle with them tight enough to leave marks on her shoulders. Had a look for a replacement - current one needs to go back to SIL - and it's difficult as she's light but inquisitive and wriggly. I think she'd be up to mischief in a 3 point infant carrier well before she's heavy enough for an erf group 1 seat. Think she might be tall enough for a group 1 i-size seat though. Will have to check how weight affects it. DH now more convinced after she was loosening her high chair strap and groping the buckle obsessively. She also got an arm out the car seat with me ages ago- admittedly before I started tightening to the point of leaving marks then slackening about 0.1mm from there. DH was apparently a horrendous fiddler so no massive surprise there - his parents had to return their brand new car seat as he did the button instantly they put him in it the first time!

sianihedgehog · 06/03/2016 08:39

Ugh, tremendously awful night for us. Up every hour, and I've had a blinding headache since Friday morning.

HOWEVER, DP has actually been a star this morning. He took one look at my face and got up with babyface and entertained him for an hour so I could sleep. Longest sleep I got all night!!

Dozygirl · 06/03/2016 08:48

Happy mothers day everybody.

Random glad you found something that works. Cloth does make clear straps tighter but it doesn't really matte . Just tighten them when in disposable and loosen them when in cloth. Easy. You can get next size car seats that are from birth so wouldn't matter what size your baby is.

Crafty hope you find somewhere. All sounds a bit of a nightmare. Bit cheeky but u could go off sick when you supposedly return to work and then hand notice in after the time has lapsed so you don't have to pay it back. Someone I worked with moved to Switzerland after her maternity leave finished yet was marked off sick on the rota. You'd have genuine reasons for being off sick though, post traumatic stress and health etc.

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Frolicacid · 06/03/2016 11:27

Happy Mother's Day lovely augmums 💐

I hope you're all having a fab day.

loveandsmiles · 06/03/2016 16:09

Oh crafty what a terrible situation - sorry, no great advice, just thinking of you💐 Awful when family behave like this - I have a truly horrible family so sympathise- take care xx

kbro79 · 06/03/2016 18:06

Happy Mother's Day everyone!!!

Oh crafty what a bloody stress. So sorry to hear that. You've got a lot on you at the moment. Try to remember to look after yourself too.

Saw my friend yesterday. She has an 8 and 6 years old. Was saying how the baby phase is so short and passes so quickly and that Aidan's sleep will be a distant memory all too soon so try not to stress it. Was v nice talking to her.

Right DS has been so excited about spending our first mothers day together that he has barely napped. Hoping this equals early bedtime!!

kbro79 · 06/03/2016 18:11

Oh and about feeding to sleep, that's good to know coconut. My DH is the same tindel - keeps saying we need to break the feeding to sleep so he'll sleep better but then at 4am he has no other suggestions. And completely agree that milk isn't always just about hunger.

Equimum · 06/03/2016 20:11

Crafty I hope you manage to find something suitable soon. Sounds like a nightmare Sad.

I hope the bottles continue to help with sleep random.

I hope you feel better now Siani, and that your little one has a better night.

Re: feeding to sleep. I fed DS1 to sleep until sometime round his second birthday. I also got him down for naps by pushing him in the buggy, right up until he stopped napping at 2.9years. We found it really stressful every time we tried to break the habit, so didn't bother. He gets to sleep by himself now, and there was never any real upset during transition. My point is, it's not a bad thing, or going to cause a long term problem, as long as you are comfortable with it (can be a tie). We're doing the same this time round, and, after saying we would try not to, are also back to co-sleeping.

Coconut0il · 06/03/2016 21:02

Happy Mother's Day everyone! Hope you've all had a lovely day and our DC will treat us with the best gift of all, a good night's sleep!

Had a good day, managed to have a bath while DP played with DS2 then went over to my mom's. DS2 was entertained by all his cousins and then had a 2 hour nap when he got homeShock DP and DS1 went to the football so I watched Terminator and ate ChocolateChocolateChocolate
DS has learnt to roll front to back and two teeth have broken through since Friday so I'm hoping that was the cause of the rubbish sleep probably not.

crafty What an awful situation for you all. Hope you got a nice quiet and relaxing day today.

randoms Have you looked at any car seats? I've started looking as DS is really big, he was 22lb in Jan and our car seat is max weight 29lb. I find them all so confusing.

Yay for the lie in siani. Sorry about the rubbish night though.

Agree with your friend kbro. All too soon you end up with a 12 year old who can go to bed at 10pm and quite happily still be in bed at 1130 am the next day! Looking at you DS1...Also agree with equimum that it's only a problem if it bothers you. It never bothered me to feed to sleep so we didn't fight it.

Is your oven sparkling now fatty? Ours needs doing but I've seen a man who will do it for £45. Trying to decide if I can justify it... i really don't want to do it. Maybe will tell DP and he will do it to save the moneyGrin

Sending sleepy vibes to all the August babies!

Tindel · 07/03/2016 00:34

We've done quite well for sleep so far. First proper wakeup since going down at 7:30 and managed a successful cot transfer in the middle of that! Hoping for some more longer stints to help me catch up on sleep

randomsabreuse · 07/03/2016 06:20

Alarm's just gone off for 9.15 hospital appointment 25 miles away. Have just lost 2 long posts. Made it through to after 5 from 11ish or slightly before - yay!

Tindel - hope you got more good stretches!

Coconut - congrats to your ds - good skills!
Re car seats F's around 14lb so wouldn't be moving on but for the need to return the seat. Was considering another infant carrier when we were planning a sibling in the not too distant future but wriggly inquisitiveness means I probably will get a combination erf seat or isize if weight isn't too much of a concern. Think I'm going to have to traipse to the in car safety centre in MK at some point, possibly on the way to return the other seat.

I hope to feed to sleep because it's usually hunger that wakes her up so feeding right before bed helps with that. She's always had the ability to go to sleep without though.

FattyNinjaOwl · 07/03/2016 08:46

Argh...just lost a massive postm CBA typing it all again but in a nut shell, hi everyone, hope you all have good days, I got nearly 7 hours sleep last night because Nathan slept! But I still feel shit because now I'm unwell.
And oven is sparkly, until later when DP cooks....

CraftyPenguin · 07/03/2016 14:21

Afternoon all! I hope you all had nice Mother's days :)

Thank you for all the sympathy about the lack of sleep and our situation re moving. It's just so shit. Dh's parents aren't exactly being nice and the stress and worry is making us both so unwell. Hopefully soon well be somewhere new and happy, and this difficult period will be a distant memory.

Re car seats I'm really not happy with DDs. I don't think it will be long before she grows out of it. The woman in Mothercare said the belted version of the isofix fitted well in our car but I keep having to put the stand thing straight! And her head falls on her chest all the time so I don't feel like I can travel far on my own with her. I still want her to be rear facing though so I'm having trouble finding one that will fit in my car.

Sorry you had a tough night on Saturday Siani 💐 it's hard, isn't it? I feel at breaking point with it all.

Dozy it didn't even occur to me to go off sick tbh. I guess I just doubted that could happen otherwise surely everyone would do that so they wouldn't have to pay the extra money back? I'm so not physically or emotionally ready for work though. Not judging by my breakdown yesterday Blush

Coconut I hope the teeth breaking through were the cause of the bad sleep and that you got a better night last night.

Random I hope the hospital appointment goes well. Let us know how it goes.

Fatty I hope you feel better.

I feel so low and poorly today so we're having a day in, other than an a little walk in a bit. I've managed to get upstairs clean and tidy though 😊 downstairs isn't looking too bad either. It just feels pointless though when we know we'll be moving, lol. DD hasn't been too bad today, she wants me to play with her lots and her laughing and smiling is really cheering me up. It's impossible to feel down when you hear a baby laughing!

Bit of a random question, but how do you brush your babies teeth (those that have them), and how do you fit it into your routine?

kbro79 · 07/03/2016 19:29

crafty good question about the teeth - I have been wondering the same. Get stressed and pressing to hard and going to make him bleed. Also, bad mum confession, keep forgetting to do them.

Coconut0il · 07/03/2016 20:51

Brushing teeth - My distant memory of brushing DS1's teeth is a soft brush and baby toothpaste (I think) and just gently doing it. It was all ok till he decided he didn't like it and would clamp his mouth shut so it became a two person job with one of us holding him and the other forcing the brush in Shock
So far DS2 is better with calpol and a better eater. Hopefully he will be better with this too!

Car seats - I find DS2's head sometimes falls forward, think it is the angle of the back seat. Reading the reviews of lots of car seats and this is a common problem with some cars. Really don't want to make a mistake as if we pick the right one it will do for ages.

Hope you both feel better soon crafty and fatty

A cot transfer tindel what is this magical thing you speak of? Our ornamental cot is now full of teddies and toys... not even room for DS to lie in itGrin

Hope the hospital appointment went well randoms. Let us know.

Dozygirl · 07/03/2016 23:43

Haha so random crafty I just asked dthe same question in the old fb group 😂😂 for some reason I decided to brush her non existent teeth today. I don't know why. Thought Id heard somewhere that u can brush them even if they're not there so it gets them used to it. We also debated which toothpaste. Some research says to use adult toothpaste with 1450ppm fluoride in which us most adult toothpastes but no whitening in it but most people use baby toothpaste. I tried her with adult tp tonight and she seemed to like it. There's conflicting evidence it there though on what is the best to use.

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FattyNinjaOwl · 07/03/2016 23:55

I use adult toothpaste. I used baby toothpaste with ds1, but when he got older I had a real battle trying to get him to use normal toothpaste, so I went straight to adult for the others.

loveandsmiles · 08/03/2016 06:36

Morning all 🙂 Babyloves was up wide awake giggling and laughing at 1pm - I try to ignore her and don't engage in 'fun' during the night and DH usually sleeps through but last night he woke up and was chatting and laughing with her then turned over and went to sleep leaving a totally hyped up baby - aaaaarrrrrrggggg! Eventually got to sleep at about 3am but I get up at 5am😞

It's toddlers birthday today - 3 years already 🎈🎉🎁 - she is getting a new slide for the garden - asked DH to build it last night - came downstairs this morning and it is still in the box - his excuse is that it's raining and she couldn't go on it but I said she could have it in the playroom until weather gets better. I am a bit hopeless at building things so will have to leave it until he gets home from work - not easy to explain to a child who will want on it NOW!!

Hope you are feeling better today fatty & crafty 💐

randomsabreuse · 08/03/2016 06:45

Thanks guys.

Hospital was ok. Admin stuff. Booked first 4 chemo sessions on assumption that it's Hodgkins pending urgent biopsy at localish referral place. 1st chemo in 2 weeks. Also have PET scan and 3 more sessions of sperm banking to juggle before then. Any sibling likely to be ICSI so making it will be very much less fun than making F.

This is so much more real now!

Started to tell friends in real life. Had hoped to get a full diagnosis before telling friends but it's taking so long and we've got plans to pull out of.

After a long morning of examinations, swabs, blood samples and a visit to the fertility clinic - very weird with 7mo attached - we collapsed in a heap so loads of basic housework to do to get organised tomorrow.

Cleaners haven't responded to online query. HVs might get around to phoning me today. Two bits of admin I don't like having to do because it feels like admitting I'm not coping which will make it true.

Stupidly I'm massively ambivalent about formula top ups. I HATE making it, feel inept, getting the temperature right is really hard and she always ends up waiting grumpily. I also hate needing it when I'm around but however much she cluster feeds all evening she doesn't make it through the night. Have to admit she seems to be thriving on it...

Also need to get organised with weaning food. My repertoire of suitable dishes is somewhat limited - and pretty well all the weaning recipes contain dairy. Part of me wants to get through the next 2 weeks before being strict with offering 3 meals a day but she's getting more interested - was swiping my dinner last night but not putting it in her mouth.

My head's obviously more of a mess than I thought looking at that. Crap night for us - hard to settle, 2 wale ups between midnight and 6 and up at 6 having soaked through nappy! Probably because we only had one bottle of formula...

FattyNinjaOwl · 08/03/2016 07:58

random Flowers

MaGratgarlik1983 · 09/03/2016 08:46

Hi Augmums! Random good luck with everything. That must have been surreal at the fertility clinic! Loves Grr re DH jobs - mine still has to measure the nursery window for a blackout blind. Re teeth cleaning, I gave a soft brush, but seems a bit pointless as I still dreamed, I guess it gets him used to the feel of it.

So DH was at a stag do on Saturday and overnight so didn't get back til 4.30 on sun, so we did mothers day on Mon. Was lovely. I had a massage that he'd got me for xmas and then we went for a lovely meal. DS then randomly decided to wake up screaming at 1am yesterday morning but I think.its teeth and desperation to crawl but not quite getting it!

Anyhoo, Happy hump day you lovely lot!