Just Mumming 9- We're suffering the curse of Mel B, ST syndrome and the rise of the sleep snatchers. We've all had enough and would just like a good JS.

[PixieChops]

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Name: Pixie
Age:29
Pests: 2- P (girl) 17 months old, R (boy) 4 months old
Things I can't do anymore- have a crap in peace, drink a hot drink, do any housework, shag ST, sleep, take naps.

Things I can do- carry a toddler, baby, dirty bottles and nappies down the stairs all at once, put a double pram up in 20 seconds, have a shower inc washing and shaving in under 5 mins. Be coco the clown on 26 mins sleep.

Toast trust your mum instinct. She's still so little you can't spoil them at this age (in my opinion). She needs mum and if she wants to sleep on you I'd just embrace the cuddles while she's little and cute :)

Purple have you ever massaged him? It sounds like he's bunged up either poo or wind.

Doh! We've been to baby massage classes but I've not done it at home. I will do tonight next time he's awake. I sent DH upstairs with him and its currently all quiet so I'm going to stay downstairs and have some wine

I just realised I missed a load of newer posts! And see others have recommended massage. Honestly it's made all the difference for my wee one. He used to groan and groan with wind and now seems much happier.

Fleur exactly as Popz says - all bubs are different and S could turn out to be the most wonderful and unique, gorgeous and funny little boy and the other baby unique in different ways completely. Try not to compare. My B sleeps through every class we go to or screams and is pretty chilled at home. Other babies I see are active and receptive at the classes but I'm told they are screamy at home.

I also feel like running away during the nights. And sometimes during the day. I cried at massage class today because someone said their dh takes it in turns to bath their baby each night. I don't get a choice, I always bath, feed, wind, play, get him to sleep. I do everything and I'm tired to the core. So I cried because I'm tired.

But it is worth it. If I ran away id probably start worrying that dh wouldn't look after him properly so I'd come back

Ha ha!!! Monitor just came on and there was a big fart!!!!

Also having wine!

Lol la!

Wine here too!

Don't worry -.Melba is definitely not spoilable at this age toast. Google fourth trimester x

Still no poo. He's fairly content atm but that could soon change. We've changed our clocks now so I'm in bed with B on me at 8:30 on a Saturday night. How rock n roll are we!

Purple try lying him on his back, lift both legs in air then fold them back on him so that he's got them tucked up to his chest. Hold for 6 seconds. If I do that to B he explodes with farts

Purple R poops once a day but not around the same time. However P usually shits at the same time as him so my living room STINKS by the time I've changed two dirty nappies. Gross

Fleur a feeling of wanting to run away can be a sign of depression. I can't remember if I mentioned that when I went to see the dr she asked if I'd thought of hurting myself or my babies and I broke down in floods of tears (think full on sobbing- very embarrassing! And I said yes because in all honesty I had thought about hurting R because at the time he was doing my fucking head in crying all the time because his milk didn't agree with him and I hadn't slept in 9 weeks. Many times I'd think- what if I just flung him out of the window- nobody would notice, or I'll suffocate him with a pillow because then it'd look like SIDS and I won't go to jail. Honest to god it was that bad BUT and its a big but. No matter how fucking shitty and down you feel- no matter how much you really want out of the situation there is a HUGE difference to thinking something and actually doing it. I'd never hurt R and even though I thought those things I knew I'd never do it. And that's what the Dr said. She said everyone gets those feelings, everyone sometimes thinks the things that I thought, but there's a difference between thinking and doing.
It made me feel so much better because I just felt like the worst mum in the world thinking of hurting R. It killed me inside. In fact I'm starting to well up again because of the memory of it all. Gah where's my big lady balls?! Lol

la! P has now come to the conclusion that farts are funny and will try and force more out thus resulting in shitting herself. It's all fun and games when they get a bit older. Hang on in there with the sleep, it'll definitely get better I pinky promise. If I lived near you id happily take B so you could have a kip. Have a hug

90 minutes Popz?! Fuck me was he washing each pube individually? That definitely calls for an extra long bubble bath for you. Tell him to come to my house. I've got a shower down inc washing hair and shaving in 4 minutes.

Nothing much to report except ST isn't being such an ST today and ended up having to work this morning. I had a nap- symptoms feel like they're coming back though. Need to stop eating so much shite and take my magnesium tablets again (I stopped because I think that's what gave me the shits the other day- but it was probably more like the pasty I bought from sainsburys).

Sending you all positive vibes for this evening and hope you all get a good kip.

The abruptness of the change is concerning purple, we went from 6 a day to 1 every couple of days with no easing in between. You can still ask HV for reassurance

90mins is inexplicable popz! I get annoyed at DH 40mins!

We have another baby in the family that is seemingly perfect fleur. Two months younger and sleeps through, never cries really. So annoying if they are together. That four month sleep regression will hurt like a bitch though I'm sure, and if it's not that it will be something else later down the line. And I am sure we all feel like running away sometimes, the important thing is we don't. Those early weeks I thought about taking him back to the hospital neatly every day.

Don't worry about making a rid for you own back toast, I'm sure that's not the case! Just do whatever your baby needs. At the moment that is mainly just being near you.

I'm in the midlands visiting family which has, of course, coincided with illness for J and clocks changing. First experience of baby diarrhoea. Been up since four when his snotty nose finally meant he couldn't breath so sat up and he wants to play. Sat on my own downstairs now to avoid waking other people. Cold leather sofas - never got the appeal of leather!

Ha! Similar here dulcet - B has dhs cold so I'm holding him upright and have been since 5am (new time). Snuffle babe and saline drops helped for a bit but it got to the point where he was struggling. Otherwise though he slept a bit better - 2 hours at a time.

It's not the running away thoughts that bother me - it's the ones where I think I'd want to hurt him just to get him to go to sleep. I know I'd never ever do anything to hurt him but in the middle of the night when he's struggling and clawing at me and won't sleep sometimes I do understand women who have hurt their babies as I'm so desperate for him to sleep. That makes me feel like such a terrible person. He's currently cuddled up in my arms and looking at him now I can't understand why I'd ever feel that way. Sleep deprivation does funny things to your brain.

I'm wondering about when we might need a high chair. We will start weaning in January. Does anyone have any tips for picking a good one? Are they pretty much bog standard?

HATE leather sofas with passion. Although our new elephant cord one is now covered in boob milk

All the other babies in my family are just as bad, if not worse. My niece sleeps through but has huge tantrums at 4 months and she is running my brother ragged. His wife works 15 hour days so he is the primary carer. My cousins wee ones all sleep in their bed at 1 and 3 years old and he has to sleep in spare room.

Zyla that nappy thing would drive me nuts!

Where's wil these days?

I'm up. The boys are still in bed! I can't breathe again. Wish this cold would fuck off!!

pixie you do make me lol! Sorry to hear you had such a shit time with PND though - and kudos for being so honest. There would be so much less stigma around it if everyone could be so open and honest.

Wil is waiting for a new app I think??

Ikea Antilop La - 12 quid, sturdy as hell and you can put it through the dishwasher

I don't get leather sofas either.... Cold in winter, stick to your bum in summer Plus if we had one, the dog would destroy it anyway...

Cuddles for all the poorly babes and poo troubles!

MrPopz put his phone down and sat and watched X Factor with me last night! Baby steps but hoping this is progress...

Wow! Mr La would never watch X factor! Well done Mr Popz you are slightly redeemed

It's ironic that I'm sleep deprived in a big bed of sleeping bodies. B is sprawled across me, arms outstretched and out for the count. Dh snoring next to me and cat 1 is asleep on his head.

Hopefully my time will come...

Another IKEA vote here - my brother swears by them

Still no poo but not a bad night. He's farting lots though. He's pretty content and the writhing has stopped

DH snoring sounds like a cow mooing!

I like my leather sofa - I'm on my third! Can't bear stained fabric ones with years of questionable marks eeeuggh. Leather is wipe clean and far more hygienic

Oh and I've had a sore throat all night, it hurts to swallow. I've woken up with a stuffy nose too

We have poo! It's now orange rather than mustard yellow. I've no idea if that's ok or not.
Off to google poo colour

That sounds fine, it's green that's bad

I have been Mia

pixie I think it was you who asked, dh is in Newcastle, to see his friends, he doesn't go away often so it is so annoying. He is back tomorrow

We have the IKEA antilop its brilliant

We've had another huge poo this afternoon. Normal service is resuming.

B is now rolling into his side and face planting the side of the crib. He always rolls onto his right so I'm going to put him on his right but nearer the middle if that makes sense. I am wondering how much longer he can stay in the crib though. We have a Moses basket which won't last him much longer either as he's nearly the length of it!
Just wondering how long Moses baskets and cribs have lasted you? The cotbed won't fit in our room, so once he outgrows them he will have to go into his own room. He's far too young for this though. We have the angelcare movement monitor and a video monitor but even so I'm not happy.

Oh and I've just lost it with DH. He asked me what to do with B and I told him to make a decision like a parent! Oops!

purple when H outgrew her bedside cot and I wasn't ready for her to go into her own room we bought a travel cot as we knew we'd need one for future travels, and put her in that in our room. Would that work?