Just Mumming 9- We're suffering the curse of Mel B, ST syndrome and the rise of the sleep snatchers. We've all had enough and would just like a good JS.

[PixieChops]

Morning Viroids

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Name: Pixie
Age:29
Pests: 2- P (girl) 17 months old, R (boy) 4 months old
Things I can't do anymore- have a crap in peace, drink a hot drink, do any housework, shag ST, sleep, take naps.

Things I can do- carry a toddler, baby, dirty bottles and nappies down the stairs all at once, put a double pram up in 20 seconds, have a shower inc washing and shaving in under 5 mins. Be coco the clown on 26 mins sleep.

How old is he la? Growth spurt?

That's what S has been doing for almost 2 weeks now la, I'm exhausted.

Touch wood, he was better last night. A dream feed plus your rocking method sent him off for a 4 hour stint, I fed him again at 3.30am and he woke at 7.15!!

Not much advice really. I added an extra feed in during the day and have started dream feeding him. He was like a bottomless pit.

I think it's the 12 week growth spurt or the next leap. Either way he's a hungry beast!

He's fast asleep on me and dh is snoring next to me. Nice!

Glad it was better last night fleur!

Eugh, La, that sounds brutal. Hope your DH made you a cup of tea when he woke up from his lie in! Glad you had a better night of it Fleur, especially needed after a no-sleep day, I'm sure.

Min may I ask if you were advised to wean early because Mini took so little milk or if you decided to just go for it yourselves? Sounds like it was a good move either way and something we might have to consider.

Can't remember if I mentioned that we have our paediatrician appt but it's not 'til end of November! Baby Snap will probably be eating steak by then.

Sorry you're having rough nights viroids. These pesky babies! We seem to be out the other side of the 4month sleep regression at 7 months. Only two wake ups is typical with the odd bone crushingly awful night thrown in here and there to make me appreciate the better nights!

We've all had colds here too which hasn't been fun. Took BabyPis to the doctors yesterday as she sounded like a cat purring when she was breathing. We've been given an inhaler and some antibiotics but I'm not going to bother with the antibs as she seems to be on the mend and I don't want to give them unnecessarily. She had another check up today and her chest is sounding better. She barely fed yesterday - literally seventeen minutes spread over four feeds from the time she woke up to the time she went to bed. She's also been refusing solids. She's taken more frequent and longer feeds today though so fingers crossed she was just not feeling the food vibe temporarily. We did sing and sign earlier and she was happily crawling around terrorising the younger babies so she certainly seems herself.

She's having a nap. I should be tidying up and making some lunch but I can't be arsed so I'm dicking about on here instead. Although I should crack on with lunch really - starved!

I think we are going to have to bite the bullet and put B in his own room. I truly think that we are just waking each other up all night and that's what our issue is. I'm terrified because of SIDS but we can't go on with me holding him from 4am every morning. I'm miserable and he's not sleeping properly. I wonder if the reason he slept better last week was because dh was away - he snores loudly.

I'm going to mull it over. I'd never forgive myself if something happened but at the same time he deserves a happy mum and I'm too tired to function just now.

Pis it does sound like minipis is feeling better! I agree with only giving abs if they definitely need it and you are her mum and know best what she's like.

Snap that's annoying! They've completely cocked up Bs appointments. He was sent letter for appointment follow up with paediatrician after choking hospital visit. Also got a different appointment - different Dr and hospital for his hip scan follow up. I flagged it up to them so we now have one appointment fit both, but still no rescan appointment for his hips. Then got letter copying us into letter asking a different Dr to look at hip scan and give opinion. So are we having rescan or not!? Confusing.

Just been to my fit mummy rebuild class - was Pilates today. B was so good - I took bouncer along and he sat in it playing with his elephant for the whole hour quite happily.

We also introduced him to elmo this morning - I could hear him cooing at the TV from upstairs and came down to find dh had put him in front of TV and downloaded a compilation of elmo videos. Oh my god he loves it! Particularly the one with Destinys Child!

Glad your Dad's ok fleur xx

My child won't sleep either... I realise this is consolation to no one though!

Home now thank goodness. Feeling a bit low.

snap combo of paeds advice plus mother's instinct really.
Turns out it was the right thing to do, she's taken to solids like she was always on them.
No allergies as far as we can tell and the only things she's not a fan of is avocado and beef.
Just got to get her to eat at nursery now

What's up popZ?

And it comes as a bit of consolation - that I'm not the only one!!! :D

Minimal sleep here too. But 6 week GP check today all good and she's grown loads so the relentless feeding is paying off. Finally got lactation consultant to look at her tongue tie at booby group, she seemed surprised no one had picked up on it already and that it wasn't causing us more problems than it is (latch is hit and miss and feeding uncomfortable at times but not unbearable). She gave me a few tips re. Latching and will have another look next week and possibly snip it then. Not sure whether to have it done or not if feeding is bearable as it is and obviously she's gaining plenty of weight so it's not affecting how much she's able to feed. But could it cause problems later on if we don't have it done? And will it be less traumatic to have it done now whilst she's tiny?

Only problem with a busy day like today is that Melba's timings for feeding have not matched up very well with the times when we need to leave the house. She's difficult to wake up when sleeping and doesn't like to feed until she's ready and its on her schedule not mine, so consequently i feel like I've had to rush her feeds today to get us out the house for GP, again for booby group and again at the end of booby group. Trying to make up for it now and hoping we don't have an even busier night to compensate!

Evening viroids. B had his hip scan today as he was breech. He's all good and fell asleep during it.
He's getting awful stroppy if he gets woken up now, it never used to bother him. I'm using the car seat on the pram base more to avoid disturbing him, if he's not going to be in it long that is.

Popz are you ok?

Toast I can't believe they are 6 weeks old now! Where has the time gone. Haven't managed to get a decent 6 week photo yet though

Hellish evening here. P managed to spill milk all over himself, the floor and a new magnetic calendar a friend gave him today and some of the pieces are already missing. Baby Snap has hardly had any milk all day and finally had a proper feed at bedtime only to throw it all up over himself, me, the bedroom carpet and the bathroom floor. All whilst P was screaming at me from his bedroom. When I eventually went in he had been monkeying around and got his leg stuck between the rails on his cot sides. Then Baby Snap starts screaming because he's knackered but won't go to sleep, probably because he's hungry but I daren't give him any more milk for a while. Of course, DH walks in when it's all over. Just scrubbed the floors. Haven't eaten yet. Washing to hang out. Bottles to wash. I want to go back to work to have a holiday.

Pixie I need your positive thoughts!

Hope you're ok Popz

BabyPis pulled herself to standing on the sofa. As surprising and exciting as that is, I've got laminate flooring and DP has tiles. She's going to hurt herself isn't she I've ordered some foam floor mats from amazon - hope they turn up quickly! My stupid phone couldn't react quick enough to get a picture

Are you ok Popz?

popz -hope you are ok.
la - thanks for the tips, if the offer of a video still stands, please do - and if you could include your mum's magic sleep rocking trick too, I'd be really grateful!
snap - that sounds hideous. I would have been rocking and wailing in a corner somewhere!

Toast if you can get the tongue tie done when baby is smaller it's better- less blood. If the tongue tie is quite bad it can have an effect on speech later on in life. My ST had to have speech therapy because of his so I made sure when P & R were born that they had theirs looked at. P was 85% tongue tied (which is one of the reasons why I found breast feeding so hard and gave up very quickly) and R doesn't have it. It's worse for you than it is for them, they don't remember it but you have to help hold baby down and I found that awful. Ps been fine ever since having hers done though and is now yapping away the few words she knows.

Sorry to hear about minimal sleeps- think coupled with Rs bacterial throat infection he went through his 4 month regression. Thank god it only lasted a week. I don't know how people manage for months on end. I'm a ratty cow if I go longer than. 3 days without a proper nights sleep and almost become unbearable to live with according to ST. That's why he insists we take it in turns to be up with R so I'm not such a moody bitch. He only woke once last night at 2am- night before he slept through so it's been good the last couple of nights. It's his 3rd lot of jabs tomorrow and so far we've been incredibly lucky with after symptoms because he's not had any apart from being a bit grumpier than usual. I'm dreading it because surely I can't be that lucky 3 times in a row!

Glad B is alright purple, where his legs either side of his head? Apparently that's where mine where as I was a breech baby. The one and only time I've ever been able to do that.

Popz hope you're alright- feeling low can be shitty but please feel free to vent at us lot because that's what we are here for

La if it's any consolation I was also petrified about SIDS with P (not so much with R, you tend to relax a bit more with the second) but me and ST kept her awake and vice versa so at 4 weeks old she was in her own room. Her cot was on our bed wall and the walls were pretty thin so she'd still be able to hear us moving around etc. As soon as she went into her own room she slept for longer periods and everyone was a lot happier. At the moment I'm now trying to work out when the best time to move R into Ps room will be. He's 4 months old now and it's getting a bit annoying having him in here as he can sometimes keep us awake with his grunting.

R had recently tried puréed food! He's had "dinner" with us the last 3 nights and loves being involved. He already has mastered opening his mouth nice and wide for food and is getting better at moving his tongue around so he's not just pushing the food back out but is actually eating it. I should have him fully weaned at 6 months at this rate fx! Got a dietician app in the middle of December so he best be otherwise I'll be in the dietitians bad books

Not much to report apart from my symptoms have started to creep back so it's more magnesium and less sugar- booooo!
Going to go to bed whilst the goings good. Fx for everyone to get a good nights kip.

Snap this too shall pass! It's just one bad night- think about it in the way that's it over now and done and that tomorrow I'll be better

Pis sounds like you've got a little gymnast on your hands there lol. P was and still is an absolute monkey trying to climb on everything; she at 17 months can get herself up a junior slide and push herself off at the top. There was a boy of 6 on the slide with P the other day and he was shouting to his mum to come and get him because he was scared, he said it was too high for him
P just pushed passed him in the end and put herself on the slide and came down it. She really has no fear that kid. Apart from Hoovers and hairdryers. Those are her nemesis.

Sorry snap replace I'll for will! Stupid twatting phone

Are you ok popz?

S has diarrhoea an eventful night with no less than 6 nappies (may be more, I have lost count). My poor boy

Hope you're ok popz

fleur poor S!

toast - baby d had her posterior tongue tie cut on Monday. It really wasn't that bad - they swaddled her up tight and held her legs still, which she hates, and when she opened her mouth to yell, reached in and snipped it. Took less than a minute from start to finish. Once done, it bled a little and they put a gauze there for a minute or two and then passed her straight to me to feed - which she did.
Since then, it doesn't seem to have worried her, and she's settled and slept a bit better, although that could well be coincidence in such a short space of time.
So whilst it wasn't fun, it wasn't that bad for her or me as far as I can tell, and hopefully it will benefit her by making feeding easier and more efficient.
Hope that is of some help to you!

Toast both my boys had tongue ties which affected their feeding quite severely, and they both had them released, P at 12 weeks and R at a few days old. If feeding had been fine I probably wouldn't have done anything about it. You should get lots of information from the tongue tie clinic about whether the op is indicated in your case, what the after care regime is and what the likelihood is of the tie recurring. Our clinic has a quite challenging after-care programme where you massage the wound to prevent the tie from growing back. That was hard but the snip itself is really quick, they use teething gel as a local anaesthetic and the baby is given to you straight afterwards for a feed and they're over it in a flash. Get as much guidance as you can so you can make an informed choice.

Thank you Pixie xx. Unfortunately I've been in tears this morning as Baby Snap is crying with hunger, trying to take the bottle but just can't, keeps pulling away and screaming. Whatever it is that's going on with him is always worse in the morning, it's really heartbreaking to watch. He managed 30 mls just now after 4 hours since the last feed.

But, being positive, I have a lovely couple of friends coming round soon and I'm sure they will cheer me up. They'd better bring cake otherwise they are dead to me.

Fleur poor you and poor S with the bum yucks. Hope he's on the mend soon.

Deeply I was pretty much rocking in a corner by the time DP came home last night! But actually it wasn't quite as bad as the previous evening when P did a poo whilst I was feeding the baby. He did it in the potty and kept getting up to inspect it and tell me how 'massive' it was and in the process managed to smear shit all over his bum cheeks, legs, hands, sleeves and the back of his t- shirt.