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Just Mumming 8 - the one with the fire crawlers, wind machines and the Health Visitor revolt

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WilHarlot · 03/09/2015 08:22

Add your stats Viroids (or don't bother). I feel like there's something I'm supposed to write here but don't know what it is... Confused

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Minion · 11/09/2015 13:14

Oh zyla, I hope little whiskers is back waiting for you after your hols.
purple great news! forgot to say colostrum is so so fatty that they get all the energy from that until milk comes in (when it does finally come through... Jesus h Christ, the hardness owwww).

My child has decided that she wants to be a bit more daring. She keeps standing there and letting go of anything and is well chuffed with herself.
She then realises and gets all wobbly, ha!

LaLaLaaaa · 11/09/2015 13:29

Hoya viroids!
Welcome purple! Congratulations! As the others have said the baby's stomach is tiny so you shouldn't need to give bottle as colostrum should be enough for now - loads of skin on skin and suckling should encourage milk to come in. Do you have a midwife visit today where you could ask for advice?

Zyla I really hope his furry face is waiting for you when you get home :(

Just took B to baby rhyme time. Slept through half, fed through rest. Thankfully it was free!

Am experimenting with leaving him for periods with dh subtly to encourage him to look after him more. He's great with him but tends to expect me to do it all the time. I'm hiding upstairs!

Got new swaddle thing to help B sleep as his Moro reflex and wind combined means he wakes up constantly. It seemed to work well last night as he slept for three lots of 2-3 hour stretches, even through the normal fussy 4am bit. It's a Love to Swaddle where the arms can go upwards. When they get older and reflex is gone you can take arm bits off to let them have arms free.

LaLaLaaaa · 11/09/2015 13:34

Fleur fx for the tests :( hopefully everything's ok and he's just hanging onto his jaundice a bit longer than usual xx

Snap - eek to rat! I work with wildlife and not scared of animals but even so I don't like idea of rats in house - hope it's gone for good!

Min - brave mini! Start nailing down everything in the house!

Strange question - does bf make anyone else pump? It makes me fart like a trooper! No? Just me..?

Ok then

LaLaLaaaa · 11/09/2015 13:35

Mini! Have fun at centreparcs! How old is E now!? I thought they didn't teeth for ages - oh god! Have I got that coming up?

Popz - fx for quick sale! Did you offer on new place? I must have missed it

LaLaLaaaa · 11/09/2015 14:50

PS purple I meant to say - these early days can be overwhelming and terrifying. Just remember we are here if you need support and that whatever you're doing you're doing a brilliant job!!!

minimooo · 11/09/2015 15:03

Hope you get some answers fleur. Good that they're investigating.

la she's just over 4 months now (coming up to 19 weeks I think?) Her little friend of the same age is also teething so they're helping each other through it! She seems a lot brighter today actually so maybe it's subsided for a bit? Can it do that...stop and start?

Currently on motorway, should get there about 3.30ish. Man, babies need a LOT of stuff. We barely got it all in the car! Me and dh have got a tiny bag each and E has got the rest of the car!

Sorry he hasn't turned up yet zyla. Really hoping he'll be back when you get home.

Can't really add anything that hasn't already been said purple. We're here if you need us xx

SnapdragonAzZ09 · 11/09/2015 21:02

Mini, teething can go on for months on and off with no actual teeth to show for all the grizzling. P didn't get his first tooth until he was 9 months and then just had his one pickle stabber for ages! He was much happier once the teeth broke through the gum as the painful pressure was released. It can give them a sore bottom - apparently something in the saliva (enzyme?) helps to break down the gum, but then also causes acrid, stingy poos.

Popz exciting! We had one day if viewings last Sat and accepted an offer earlier this week. So glad I haven't got to run around stuffing toys in cupboards and sponging tomato sauce off the kitchen walls again! Apparently you should try to make your cooker and bathroom look spotless as people like to imagine they are the first ones to use them.

Mini have a fab holiday. Hope it blows the cobwebs away!

La, Roland has not returned thank goodness but I still can't go in the room. We think it was attracted by the chicken that some idiot people in our block throw in the garden for the foxes.

MiniSnap isn't doing very well. Had his 10 week review yesterday and his weight is still dropping off significantly. He's just not getting enough milk in him despite me spending hours feeding him everyday. GP was useless and I came away with no clear plan. He also had his jabs and has been beside himself, poor lamb. I feel a bit down. But then I also think myself lucky that I'm not dealing with these problems whilst sleeping on a station concourse in Budapest.

purplewhale · 11/09/2015 21:12

He's been screaming and refusing to latch, hence the formula. He wouldn't take any colostrum today
...until this evening where the little bugger has latched straight away and fed for 30 mins on each side. I'm at my mums and she's just given him 2oz formula as I'm a bit sore. She also gave him a bit of infacol and it stopped the screeching.
So I'm celebrating with a small glass of wine for a week well done Smile

SnapdragonAzZ09 · 11/09/2015 21:18

Well done Purple, you'll be trapped beneath a feeding baby watching endless re-runs of Real a Housewives in no time!

Hope you get to the bottom if the jaundice, Fleur. My friend's little one had it for weeks and weeks and he is absolutely fine now.

LaLaLaaaa · 12/09/2015 09:09

Morning!

Bad night here - was all prepared to give formula top up at 10 but the monkey went into deep sleep at 9pm and could I wake him up enough to feed!?! So instead he'd snacked from about 5-9 and wind up at midnight when formula has been made up too long (blimey the rules are strict!). So I bf him midnight...then 3...then from 4am he started his windy tummy/poo groaning which only stops if we get him out and let him lie on his tummy on us. So I've been awake since 4am doing that. He's adorable cuddled into my boob but oh my god I'm exhausted and dh is working a 15 hour shift today so imon my own with B. Going into town to get my haircut before dh starts work. I feel like death warmed up so not looking forward to being in front of a mirror for an hour but it'll be worth it for new hair!

Pis I missed your post - how's minipis being now? You sound pretty fed up flowers

Purple glad minipurple fed well! Has milk come in yet? Mine took 2 days I think

I fell out with dh yesterday again - he doesn't get that I'm on my own loads and it's pretty lonely so when he's here I would like him to actually spend time with me. He took yesterday off to help me with B. In the morning he slept in while I got up and took baby downstairs. He then reprogrammed his computer and wrote a business plan. Then he made dinner. I asked him to come on walk with us which he did but moaned I took long route (to get B to sleep longer).

Then we put B to bed at 10 and I went too to feed him and sit with him until he slept. Dh meanwhile had a lovely relaxing time watching TV and drinking red wine in the lounge with the cats and came to bed after midnight when I was awake again doing night feed. Couldn't get his head around why I was slightly fed up.

Do bf babies space their own feeds put naturally into a routine or should I be trying to do this? Night is relatively every 2-3 hours. He feeds on demand during day which can be anything between 3 hours and 20 mins. Should I be just going with this right now and riding it out, or trying to extend the breaks? Happy to just let him feed but wondering if I'm creating an issue by doing it?

LaLaLaaaa · 12/09/2015 09:10

Snap I'm so sorry mini snap still isn't doing well. Is there option to be referred to paediatrician for second opinion? Congratulations on the house offer, do you have somewhere to move to?

LaLaLaaaa · 12/09/2015 09:11

*woke up at midnight

Not wind up. Obsessed with wind obvs...

teejayem · 12/09/2015 09:31

I let TT feed when he wants la and we seem to have settled into a pattern of sorts, he also feeds a lot faster than he used to in the first 10 weeks; so rather than the full 30-60 minute marathons, 10-20 minutes usually does the trick. At the moment we bath/change about 7, feed, occasionally he'll nap till 9, then a quick top up boob, then we pop him in his sleeping bag and put him between us in bed. Usually another feed about 11 and then he sleeps till around 4.30-5am before he has another feed. He's usually awake a couple of hours and then goes back to sleep 8-10am. He naps 11ish and 3 ish now too, but only if the room is dark and quiet. I don't use a dummy, he's been okay self soothing, although I don't leave him to cry longer than a couple of minutes.
It works for us, I'm not one much for routine tho, more organised chaos, and I don't wake him up if he's sleeping unless it's absolutely necessary. Tbh his sleep pattern/rhythm changes all the time and as I've found this week, things like vaccinations really throw it off so I'm not too hung up about it if he falls out of sync. Monday and Tuesday were like having a newborn again, then Wedd/Thur were good nights. Last night we had three wake ups, but I think he was a bit hot. He's having his morning nap as I type, I'm having tea and a cookie in bed! I have to remember that only 2 weeks ago he would only sleep on me, and now he'll do at least 3/4 of the night in the snuzpod. It's all quite fluid, i let him do what he wants when he's ready, I don't even bother trying to force it, we just try it, and if he likes it, then yay, if not, we try again another time.

RPopz · 12/09/2015 09:33

He'll space his own feeds as his tummy gets bigger La

Sounds like you're doing brilliantly purple! Like the others said - colostrum is low volume high calorie feed for tiny tummies. It seems like nothing is coming out but it is! My milk didn't come in til day 5. Lots of skin to skin and snuggles for you Smile

We put an offer in on another house and its been accepted but only provisionally til our house is sold! Hope it goes quickly as I can't cope with the stress of being tidy for much longer!!

La omg... I've been like a frigging fart machine since I had miniP!! Shock I just figured it was my pelvic floor dying... Maybe it's bfing!

Have fun mini Smile

Glad S's liver scan came back normal Fleur. Hopefully the jaundice is just one of those things that resolves itself as he grows.

Welcome mountain Grin xx

Oh Zyla don't give up hope xxx

I feel like I've been kicked in the tit by a donkey! Sad Really hoping it's not mastitis as I'm stuck at the ILs caravan til tonight and then we're at a wedding all day tomorrow....

purplewhale · 12/09/2015 10:17

Morning viroids. We had our first co sleeping experience last night. He wouldn't settle in his cot. We were late home from my mums and so it was 2am by the time he'd fed.
I packed DH to the spare bed as he was snoring and B kept helping himself. He doesn't always work it out but I did get about 5 hours sleep. I think that was pretty good going. We need to get a bedtime routine sorted, not with times but just what we do in what order and a way to get him to stay in his crib

He's BF for an hour this morning, and carried on screaming, downed a 100ml bottle and is now sleeping it off. No sign of my milk yet but we can keep going with skin to skin and BF as much as we can until it does. Hopefully we won't need formula for much longer.

La can you go out and leave DH with him? I really don't know what I would do other than throw a strop. You probably need a calm chat about how you feel

ZylaB · 12/09/2015 10:58

purple giving him the bottles may slow down your supply a little, all the constant feeding and sucking when not feeding ups your supply at the start. That said, I do understand it needs to be a balance between that and not going mad when hey won't settle and want back on you all the time!

Still no cat, trying to be positive about packing for the holiday but I feel guilty :(

purplewhale · 12/09/2015 11:49

Don't know what else to do. He's getting so angry and screaming. And obviously still hungry if he's taking the bottles. I can't cope with him screaming at my boobs for hours, I'm latching him as much as I can and doing skin to skin too. I'm giving it my best shot.

RPopz · 12/09/2015 12:07

Just keep up the skin to skin and let him latch on as he wants. MiniP had a few formula top ups as a newborn. Doesn't have to mean the end of breastfeeding. Did you have his latch checked before you got discharged?

I've got mastitis. Bad times. Sad

LaLaLaaaa · 12/09/2015 14:15

Boo to mastitis!!!! Rest up xx

Purple do you have a mw or hv? Thy should be helping you. As the others have said the skin to skin and suckling should bring your milk on. Not end of world to give bottle but him suckling on you will stimulate milk and I wouldn't have thought you'd need the bottle unless problems with weight or latch. The colostrum should be keeping him going. But I'm not an expert and in not where you're sitting so obviously I don't know.

Can you call health visitor?

LaLaLaaaa · 12/09/2015 14:17

Was he checked for tongue tie before you left hospital? Only other thing I can think of that might mean he's not suckling properly

LaLaLaaaa · 12/09/2015 14:21

Zyla try to enjoy your holiday and I really hope he's home when you get home :( xx

ZylaB · 12/09/2015 14:26

Aww popz hope you feel better soon!

ZylaB · 12/09/2015 14:30

At this rate I'm not going away lol. Just had a blazing row with mrZ because I'm fed up of having to do all the fucking common sense in the house, from what to pack for H, to how to try and get her to sleep. I need a break from the responsibility but he sucks at common sense, like tucking her sleeves inside the long bib so they don't get messy... Simple stuff like that and it's driving me mad.

I told him to try taking her for an actual walk instead of rocking her in the pram to help her sleep, then had to tell hi to strap her in and lost it with him because he didn't even think about maybe, just maybe taking a blanket dos it's pretty windy and cold. He stropped off, told me he didn't want to be around me and hasn't even taken her nappy bag. Oh, he also gave me the finger so I text him to tell him he can take her away and he can fuck right off.

ZylaB · 12/09/2015 14:31

purple another thought, is he getting angry part way through feeding? Could it be wind? Just a random thought, hope it eases up soon!

SnapdragonAzZ09 · 12/09/2015 14:37

I was just about to say might worth asking for a tongue tie check. And get someone to watch you feed and look at latch and positioning. Newborns need to learn how to bf and it can take a while for both of you to get the hang of it. They also have to work harder to get the milk from the breast than with a bottle, so may happily guzzle down a bottle as it comes to them with no effort!

Is it hard to get a paediatrician referral La? We may end up calling out of hours doc today anyway as MiniSnap is taking tiny amounts, vomiting most of that and has done little hard pebble poo today.