Just Mumming 8 - the one with the fire crawlers, wind machines and the Health Visitor revolt

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Evening all. Hope everyone's enjoyed the autumn sunshine this weekend.

Went to our first proper pre-schooler birthday party yesterday. They'd made a huge effort with an entertainer, mini disco, etc. P had a fab time but there is something slightly disturbing about watching a group of three year olds tearing up the dance floor to 'gagnam (sp?) style'.

It was going to be a big night tonight, moving P from Moses basket to proper cot. Unfortunately the cot mattress was the wrong size and in his enthusiasm DP took it out of the packaging before trying it out. Bye bye £100. I'm trying not to be furious and horrible about it but it's SO incredibly annoying. Such a lot of money. Gah.

MiniSnap is dribbling and sucking big time too. It could go on for months before any teeth make an appearance so we'd better get used to soggy shoulders! La, Popz, kicks up the arse to your DHs for being so crap. Do they not realise they are going to blink and their babies will be teenagers? I don't think anyone gets old and wishes they'd spent more time at work or more time on the phone...

Re. sleeping bags, the guidelines vary slightly depending on the shop you bought them from. Instead of pj top over long sleeve vest you could always use a long sleeve t shirt instead of pjs. Or two long sleeve vests would do the same thing, wouldn't they? Might be worth being a bit careful about putting blankets on top of sleeping bags as they can get pretty warm in the bags.

Ha ha to international baby dressing, Cookie! Would you consider adding a curly moustache or would that be child abuse?

Rolling already, Dulcet ! Just be careful not to do what I did when P was a baby, I turned away for a split second and he rolled right off the bed. He was absolutely fine but there were copious tears from both off us. Terrible mother.

Rolling Dulcet!? I must've missed that - wow clever boy!

Snap - I've lost count of the number of times I've said that to MrP!! Its true.

Purple - things the same really. He is an asshat. I haven't had it out with him yet to be fair, I just can't be arsed.... .

I've actually seen him use his phone in the shower / whilst brushing his teeth!

Poor miniLa! Definitely teething - big red patches on cheeks, really hot and sore, lots of crying. Gave him chilled teething keys to bite on and he was biting down on them really hard. Have given him calpol and put him to bed :(

Poor lamb Minip was chomping and dribbling for months before he got any teeth.... Has he got a Sophie giraffe? All the babies I know lose their shizzle for her...

In the shower popz?! What is he doing on the bloody thing?!

I'm told teething can take a long time at this stage la so good just you got all those bibs! We get dribbly face here but not as much by the sounds of it. What is it about that giraffe popz?! Even I've heard about her.

I wanna see the French baby cookie! Early Halloween costume planning?

Could you sell it snap? Probably won't get the full cost back but would recover something.

Yeah, he only rolled once and was on the mattress like I said so possibly easier than the floor. He's learnt that he can pull his legs up and tip one way or the other so this was just the next step. He does it on the change table, turning side to side, so I will be careful for the same reasons you said snap.

Snap - is there a local Facebook selling page you could put it on? We have loads here and stuff normally gets snapped up pretty quickly. I managed to sell a maternity pillow for face value which i totally didn't expect to be able to sell

MiniLa is waking for 1am feed still but doesn't seem v interested in feeding. Is this a thing that happens? If so why don't they just stay asleep! He's full of wind so my mum is currently rocking him with his legs in the air. Love my mum

Dh back tomorrow - bet he's a right state tonight as its their closing party. Fucker. He's been out to fancy bars all week while I've been home looking after bub. Grr. Hopefully he made us some money so this will be worth it!

I can't see any teeth coming through so wouldn't be surprised if it takes ages. The dribbling is immense!

Snap I've heard so many similar rolling stories!!! I'm not putting him down anywhere high!

One person put baby down on bed, left room and when they returned baby was gone. Cue utter panic. Baby was found under bed! Mum had no idea that the baby could roll - must've rolled off bed then under

Popz - he's being a twat. Would having a word with his mum or sis help? Can they speak to him?

I've noticed people whose babies were born same time as B are starting to put photos up online of them in bumbos and jumperoos. I thought you're not meant to use them until much later? He has only just started holding head up steady

Sorry la I forget how to put in a proper link but this is quite a balanced view of the bumbo seats:
kendrapedpt.com/2012/03/08/is-the-bumbo-a-no-no/

The one is not so balanced:
mamaot.com/beware-the-baby-bumbo-seat/

Oh it turns out I don't need to do anything, the new app turns it into a link anyway!

Thank you! That's what I thought - quite concerned yesterday to see a pic of a baby in a jumperoo who didn't look like she was able to hold herself up properly yet. She's only 12 weeks old.

Someone gave me a bumbo but I saw a post by a paediatric osteopath saying 'don't use them!'. I am going to borrow a jumperoo though when B is a bit older

I didn't know about bumbos! We've got one. Also a jumperoo on the way. I wouldn't use either til he holds his head up steadily though

I was surprised how early you can use the bumbo actually, I'm sure minip was about 12 weeks. Never found it that useful tbh though. Definitely too young for a jumperoo though! They need serious head control for those. They are awesome though, Minip's little excited face when he was in his...

Can't wait until we can use a jumper. Hoping to get him one for Christmas. He loves jumping! Id heard bumbos werent great for hips and gait.

Any plans with him next week popz? Hopefully there will be the opportunity for you both to chill out together and have a chat. It's most likely thoughtlessness more than anything, not that it makes it easier.

I just achieved a nap! Well, I mean I got the baby to nap. I stayed quiet and dicked about online!

Yey to naps!! S still refuses, except on Saturday when DH and MIL handed me an overtired baby (they just cannot resist shoving toys in his face when he is grizzling and seem to ignore my pleas to get him to sleep after playing for half an hour) who was sobbing his little heart out I took him into the darkened bedroom, calmed him and then put him in the bednest. I thought I would just lay down on the bed whilst I waited to see if he settled..... He woke me up 2 hrs later!!

That was the last time he napped in his bednest though - still only on me in the sling or in the pram

I think I will get S a jumperoo for Christmas - they sell well secondhand on a local FB page but I am never quick enough! I seem to recall the upper weight limit is quite low and so the life span is quite short, best to check.

I have a trip trap baby set which is amazing for us, S can sit up at the dinner table with us. I have my breakfast with him every day and he sits in it for about 10/15 mins whilst I potter in the kitchen.

Yay for naps! BabyPis is having a nap! Unfortunately I think she had a poo just before she dropped off so I'm having a wobble about being a bad mum and letting her sleep in a dirty nappy. But a proper daytime nap in bed is so rare! I'll leave her to it.

We have a bumbo. She's not mad keen so is never in it for more than five mins at a time. Now she can sit by herself it seems pointless. Jumperoos are awesome but didn't give me the five minutes of freedom I'm sure I was promised as she demands an audience I think there's a touch of 'competitive parenting' about putting babies in things before they're ready so I wouldn't pay too much attention to the pictures La

We went to booby group this morning. A crazy toddler smeared her with chocolate and stood on her. She tried to claw his eyes out. Don't mess with BabyPis!

Having a bad mummy day. S will not sleep. Usual tricks (pram/ sling) not working. I have gone for a drive. Little bugger has fallen asleep and I am now sitting in school run traffic :-(

The half hour in the car is literally all the sleep he has had today, since 6am.

What is wrong with this child?

I feel your pain fleur .... Minipopz has slept for 5 minutes all day....

Haha, go babypis! Mini is always getting bullied by toddlers at the library group, usually over toys. Are all toddlers dicks, or just the ones we meet!?

Going to the ILs caravan for a couple of days but that's about it Dulcet. I'm going to plan lots of nights out so he has to baby sit

I snapped and left S to cry in his cot for 20 mins. I feel so bad but I have no idea what to do anymore.

I am not cut out for motherhood. I am going to go back to work in the new year. He will be better off at nursery/ with a childminder.

Ah fleur I feel yar pain. Very little sleep happening here during the day. We had at least 20mins of crying before she finally feel asleep for 15mins. (To be honest it's a daily battle.)

Spent most of her crying time swearing under my breath and it reminded me of

I got a bumbo seat for my dd. She's in it about 5 mins at a time before she tries to squirm out of it. But my friend puts her dd in it with the tray to feed her as she doesn't quite fit her highchair. (Wee petite quiet as a mouse thing, unlike mine!) So I'm hoping once dd gets a bit heavier she won't be able to squirm in it quite so easily!

Also have a jumperoo and a walker but tried neither. My dd has ridiculously good head control for a 4 month old but I'm wary of the jumperoo. Not sure why but I am.

fleur I feel like I'm not cut out for motherhood either. But I've decided it's actually this baby phase I'm not cut out for! Anyway and for you (and anyone else who needs it )

dulcet I have posted a photo on Facebook if my little French man :)

E still goes in his jumperoo

Hugs fleur. You know that isn't true. Tomorrow is a new day. We've all had those moments. Leaving them to cry while you get a cup of tea and clear your head is a better alternative to throwing them out of the window! Sometimes we have to do these things, it definitely doesn't make you a bad mother and he won't even remember now x

Fleur we all get like that. I find myself asking him what the fuck does he want cos I'm all out of ideas. Then I cry for being such an awful person to swear at a tiny baby.
However I think most of us have probably uttered the same words!

Putting S somewhere safe so you can get away from the situation is absolutely the best thing to do. Even if you have to go outside to calm down, it doesn't matter, he won't remember and you're definitely not a bad mother for doing it...quite the opposite
Sending you a big hug too

Aw fleur we've all been there. You are doing brilliantly. This shit ain't easy!
I'm loving the newborn stage again. I'm not loving the 4.5 yo stage at all. The trouble the cross ginger has been in this past week is unreal.

Fleur, what you're feeling is totally normal and understandable. It's so frustrating not to get any time to yourself in the day, really hard emotionally and physically as you get no respite at all. But as Purple says, putting him down and going off to make a cup of tea or a turn around the garden is absolutely the right thing to do. Let him go purple with rage if you need to step away, it won't hurt him one jot.

And remember what my HV said about babies who don't nap? He's gifted, I tell thee, gifted!