Just Mumming 8 - the one with the fire crawlers, wind machines and the Health Visitor revolt

[WilHarlot]

Add your stats Viroids (or don't bother). I feel like there's something I'm supposed to write here but don't know what it is...

Thanks girls, I need to give myself a break.

La, I haven't shopped in Top Shop for 20 years! Your shopping trip sounds hellish though.

B is not happy about going to bed tonight. I've put metanium on his bum as his nappy rash is awful, he screamed when I wiped him earlier and there was a bit of blood on the wipe. Sudacreme didn't do anything for it
I'm trying to get DH to deal with him as I've agreed he can sleep in the spare room as he's up at 5 and has a long drive for a meeting elsewhere. Trouble is I'm a control freak and I keep going up and taking over. Hate to hear him cry

Well done Ga for managing the school run but take it easy ffs you just had a baby!

It's to help your sads popz. Read other thread and feel for you. Didn't like some of the replies. Then posted my response there like a turd. I have reported it twice!

I spent a good 4-5 weeks crying all the time and on all the medical people purple. They were skirting around PND but never saying it and like you're finding now, you don't know if it's normal or not as you've not done it before. I think I had the blues pretty bad and am still a bit shaken by it but you haven't said anything that I didn't feel and so many other people I spoke to. It was really refreshing for people here and it real life to just say 'yes, it is all a bit shit but it won't be forever'. And it's true, you just have to get through the fog to see it.

I have also been too old for top shop for yonks la! And where was the primark jogging a advice last week popz?! I bought too pairs and I can't get in either - barely past my calves and they are my larger size! That does sound like a horrible shopping trip, they aren't all like that but you can never quite tell when it will work and when it won't! My shittest did lead to a 40min tearfest in JL. Mine, not his!

So, this week it's becoming clear J is ready for an earlier bed time. Probably about 8. We are bathing him and getting him ready but now debating what to do with him at 8 - staying downstairs with us or put him up on his own? (Don't have a monitor yet so will need to get one!)

Also, sometimes he will wake as we move him and feed at about 10, others he can go to the 12-1 wake up. If he does go upstairs and sleep through will I lose that ability to feed him at 10? Do I need I pump? I got confused again!

Hoping earlier bedtime will start to lead to less wake ups. Please!

No, earlier bedtime led to earlier wake up and now tears. At the moment his but if he doesn't go to sleep soon then maybe ours too!

I do not understand this small person! She wakes for a feed. I pick her up and take her I to her room and sit down. Put her on my lap so I can express a bit from boob so I don't give her a milk facial, then try to put her to said boob- she does her latest thing of writhing about, arching away from me and generally telling me 'F off I don't want that thing in my face'. I put her down again, and she falls asleep. I try again- manage to get her to latch eventually and feed her for a minute before she's off the nipple again and falling asleep. She's now been sparko on my lap for half an hour- I'm hoping she wakes again so I can actually feed her as its getting on for 5hr since the last one and surely she needs boob now??

Mainly I'm just worried about the way she's fussy over feeding and don't know what I'm doing wrong (if anything?!- this has gotten worse as when she first learnt to BF it was all going fine for a week or so!
But now, more often than not she takes an absolute age to latch on and then it's more luck than judgement as to whether it's a good latch or not. She is either frantically rooting around but not actually putting mouth to boob, or finding nipple, having a lick but then not latching and moving away again, and she seems to get so frustrated, sucking her hands on my boob, frantically moving her head around and generally NOT latching on. Or sometimes she just arches away from me and throws her head over to one side.
So if I put her down she then (usually) carries on rooting and starts to cry so we try again until eventually she's on the boob. This can take up to half an hour before she's actually feeding.
Apart from tonight where she's decided to just go back to sleep.
I just don't understand!!
I think I'll change her to wake her up and then see what happens.

Won't do a big reply as should get on seeing as it's middle of the night, but sort of glad to hear that all the crying is normal and will pass. It's just all so overwhelming and trying to cope with newborn and put difficult traumatic end of pregnancy and birth behind me at the same time feels like a huge mountain to climb tbh. But I will try to be patient with myself.

I do not understand this small person! She wakes for a feed. I pick her up and take her I to her room and sit down. Put her on my lap so I can express a bit from boob so I don't give her a milk facial, then try to put her to said boob- she does her latest thing of writhing about, arching away from me and generally telling me 'F off I don't want that thing in my face'. I put her down again, and she falls asleep. I try again- manage to get her to latch eventually and feed her for a minute before she's off the nipple again and falling asleep. She's now been sparko on my lap for half an hour- I'm hoping she wakes again so I can actually feed her as its getting on for 5hr since the last one and surely she needs boob now??

Mainly I'm just worried about the way she's fussy over feeding and don't know what I'm doing wrong (if anything?!- this has gotten worse as when she first learnt to BF it was all going fine for a week or so!
But now, more often than not she takes an absolute age to latch on and then it's more luck than judgement as to whether it's a good latch or not. She is either frantically rooting around but not actually putting mouth to boob, or finding nipple, having a lick but then not latching and moving away again, and she seems to get so frustrated, sucking her hands on my boob, frantically moving her head around and generally NOT latching on. Or sometimes she just arches away from me and throws her head over to one side.
So if I put her down she then (usually) carries on rooting and starts to cry so we try again until eventually she's on the boob. This can take up to half an hour before she's actually feeding.
Apart from tonight where she's decided to just go back to sleep.
I just don't understand!!
I think I'll change her to wake her up and then see what happens.

Won't do a big reply as should get on seeing as it's middle of the night, but sort of glad to hear that all the crying is normal and will pass. It's just all so overwhelming and trying to cope with newborn and put difficult traumatic end of pregnancy and birth behind me at the same time feels like a huge mountain to climb tbh. But I will try to be patient with myself.

Hi!

Another rubbish night here - although groaning didn't start until after 1am feed this time. Resigning myself that this is it and my baby is just very windy and I'm going to be awake lots all night until he grows out of it.

Does anyone else get the rage envy when you see people posting these 'milestones' cards on Facebook? My friends all have them and every morning I log on after another shit night to see someone smugly posting a pic of their baby with 'I slept through for the first time last night' written next to them. Arreggggghhhh!!!! My baby appears to be only one not doing this magical sleeping thing in my group of friends - both nct and fitness class.

Apply calming mantra La - 'all babies are different, my baby is an individual, he will sleep through when he is ready....'

...and repeat!

Purple - are you putting on barrier cream? I didn't on advice of antenatal classes and B had nappy rash regularly as we never got time to do no nappy time. I started using barrier cream because I got fed up seeing his poor little red botty and he's been clear of it since! I do a thin layer of bepanthem, getting right into his creases and under his willy. Metanium is fab for when they have it though.

Toast - the fussing at boob sounds like what B does when he's tired and also when my forceful letdown upsets him. I calm him down then try again. But the problems latching don't sound right - have you got a lactatin consultant nearby who you could ask for help? They'll watch you feed and help you with advice to improve latch.

Dulcet we put B to bed at 7pm - like J he was signalling that he wanted bed earlier as he was getting really cranky and tired towards evening and would become too upset to feed past 7pm. He's much improved sleep wise since we put him upstairs in evening. I hope it works for you!

Dulcet I don't pump for 10pm feed - B seems to miss that one out completely now so I don't bother. But should I?

Purple - I'm same as you in terms of being control freak but it really won't help for you to get a break if you don't let dh look after B himself - try to take a deep breath and step back. My dh did bedtime last week and you could've heard the screams in the next street. I went up a few times to offer help and was told to back off! Hardest thing ever

What other thread are you guys talking about?

We done ga! You are superhuman

I hate those blooming milestone cards. Although I rarely post pictures of my dd on fb. I have a work colleague who puts videos and pictures up every day (sometimes several times a day!!) Drives me nuts!

The pictures I put up are the ones which I really want to share and are normally grumpy cute face. In fact I haven't put anything on in AGES! And I actually have had people ask me to put some up.

Oops posted too soon.

It's jabs day today for little one. Not looking forward to it. Mainly because the times are all wrong for feeds. I like to make sure I can give her a bottle. Hmm need to think about it.

And to top off a potentially "great" day, I'm getting a cold that OH has given me, nice of him

Hope you all feeling a bit better today. I lost count of the amount of days I was crying. Gradually though you'll find those days get few and far between as you physically recover.

My worst one though was going to meet a friend I went in early, DD decided she was hungry. Could I find a seat anywhere? Oh no. Ended up in the bowels of a shopping centre sitting on stairs feeding baby. They were a rarely used set of stairs and I just bubbled away.

The sleep deprivation really did not help either!

I'm wittering now.

Mine took 9 months to sleep through.
Nine
Long
Months

Her first day at nursery today, settling in sesh.

I'm nervous

Hugs toast

La - anyone who reckons their baby sleeps through at B's age is a REALLY heavy sleeper or a liar... They're on for a shock come 4m sleep regression either way

La - I did a fred on the relationship board about MrP and his general uselessness as been feeling pretty low this week. The responses have kinda made me feel worse!!

I see now, thanks Dulcet!

Good luck at nursery MINIon!

Good luck for nursery today min!!

la I had that with the sleepong through, every one else's baby was 'sleepong through' and mine wasn't, until you dig deeper and they start saying 'oh well she always gets up for a while at 4am, that's her awake time!" So....she doesn't sleep through then.. :)

Good luck to you both min! What are you up to while she is in there?

Hope you've got a quiet afternoon planned fudge, hopefully it's a sleepy one after jabs too!

BFing in those early weeks is so confusing toast. Actually it still is! Make use of the groups and the consultants here as they are so nice! You can go to hospital every day or to baby cafe Tues and Thurs which is quite social. They can all help with latch and feeding - I spent the first couple weeks showing my boobs to various people! But that forth trimester stuff is good to remember, they just want to be with us and we are their favourite person. Just keep her close and she will settle down.

I use TinyBeans for photos having, which I can recommend. Input something up everyday but only people you invite to it can see the photos/videos. It's good for the grandparents who want to see stuff but I don't want to put it all on Facebook. Good if you have friends and family at a distance too.

I'm going to NCT class today to talk about my BFing experience. Want to be honest but not scary!

E didn't sleep through till 9 months and it was only they cause I had had enough and made him although he is much better for it so there you go :)

I don't shop in topshop I am too fat but my 60+ year old mum does so you are never too old!

Have fun at nursery min

Ok baby experts, I've just noticed (such a terrible mummy for not noticing sooner!) but I think H has quite bad lip tie on her top lip...what does it mean and what should we do?!

BabyPis has one too Zyla. I don't think it really matters - she gets it from her dad and he has a gap in his front teeth and nothing more. We were talking about them in booby group this week and I don't think they'll do anything about it unless it's intefering with feeding in the very early days.

Toast it is massively frustrating when they do the fists in mouth thing when you're trying to latch them on! She just grew out of it. I did try tucking her arms under my boob too.

My baby slept through. Once. Ah those were the days..... Two feeds = very good night now!

We also had exploding poo all down me and the floor at around 5am!

We have a BF support group today more local to me so I'm heading there to ask the mw and lactation consultant who runs it. I'd like to go to the one at hospital as have heard great things from everyone but can't drive there yet.

Err someone came to the door and I've forgotten everything I was going to write...
Anyway, hope everyone has a good day.

toast hopefully you'll get some help at the group today but just wanted to add that if you feel something genuinely isn't right, aside from normal baby fussiness all babies under three months are little fuckers remember, aren't they wil? then def pursue it and get help one on one with a lactation consultant. The more I read about this boobing lark, the more I realise that a lot of MWs, HVs, doctors etc aren't good enough with boobing help and will give you wrong advice. Insist you see a specialist if you need it!! Has she been checked for tongue tie? Sorry if I've missed that!

Haha we have milestone cards. I just took his 4 week photo today. Point taken about the smug bragging ones. I'll keep those off Facebook. I just thought they were nice for memories.

Another bad night here but no plans this morning so we stayed in bed til 9. Needless to say we've created a full washer load of Bs washing overnight!

Zyla, BabySnap has an upper lip tie too (spotted when he was diagnosed with tongue tie). They don't tend to release them in the UK, just the tongue ties, as it's not thought they affect feeding.

Baby Snap starting sleeping through the night at about 6-7 weeks, and I mean right through. Fat lot of good it does us though as we have to set the alarm and wake up every three hours as the little bugger doesn't drink enough milk during the day. You can't win.

I have to say, though, we worked really hard to get P (now three) into a good bedtime and nap routine from about 5 or 6 months and it seemed to pay off. He sleeps 12, sometimes 13 hours a night and did so even when he was still having two naps a day. Of course it's probably nothing to do with us and he's just a good sleeper.

Got the speech therapist coming in a bit for a feeding assessment. What's the betting Baby Snap feeds like a dream and she thinks I'm mental and making it all up?!

I think she liked it, was a bit clingy at first but soon started scooting around, very cute.
There was a baby called Hubert!
She's back in on Friday on her own for hour and a half this time.
And because it was a hard floor she stood on her own for ages.
So proud but bittersweet.

Ah yes, the 'my s/d slept through from 4 days'
Roughly translated to.. I didn't put then to bed till 9pm and gave them a feed at 4 but yeah, slept through...uhhh no. 6:30-6:30 here... I've fucking earned it I say haha