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Just Mumming 8 - the one with the fire crawlers, wind machines and the Health Visitor revolt

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WilHarlot · 03/09/2015 08:22

Add your stats Viroids (or don't bother). I feel like there's something I'm supposed to write here but don't know what it is... Confused

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purplewhale · 05/10/2015 19:22

Yay Zyla, well done you Smile

La I'm sending a hug, I had a bad day too.

Toast I've tried to time going out with when he's just fed, or woken him up and fed him if we've had to leave at a specific time. It totally went to pot this morning and I had to stick a bottle in his mouth in between nail coats, thanks to him throwing up his previous feed.

We arrived at baby group to him screaming for his next one, so I fed him there. An hour later he threw it up all over himself and me. By the time I'd changed him it was time to go home.

I walked in the door and sobbed and sobbed, couldn't stop myself. Eventually I stopped and decided to go to mums, I walked in her house, handed B to her and went to bed for 2.5 hours. I feel better now but still a bit weepy. I'm hoping it's not PND and just hormones. He's 4 weeks old and I'm wondering if I can expect a period soon. Maybe I've got a bit of PMT

ZylaB · 05/10/2015 20:08

Oh purple big hugs. I think we've all been there. I've sobbed and sobbed because all H did when I took her out was scream for a clean nappy every 10 mins, or scream for a feed because she had reflux and the milk soothed her throat, and then because she snacks instead of feeding properly. I just feed her wherever nowadays. I promise it gets easier as they grow up a bit.

RPopz · 05/10/2015 21:49

Well done zyla Smile

mountaingirl01 · 05/10/2015 22:22

I cried today too. Went shopping with my mum, sister and 5 mo neice as it was my birthday, M decided to cry for feed every time I walked into a different shop and picked something up. Ended up feeding her in multiple changing rooms. Just felt so stressed by it all. Not quite the relaxing day out I had thought it would be!

DulcetMoans · 06/10/2015 05:43

Going out is tough, I cried many times and probably still will. Once I spent 40 mins just crying in the JL feeding room. But you do have to get out. Sorry it's been a tough one though purple and mountain.

toast - It is hard to factor it all in but I do try to feed before I go out to give me maximum time. I would wake him to do that too, because I know he will sleep in the car or I pram after anyway. Then I plan trips knowing where I can feed if I need to. It dies mean just going out is never easy though but you do get used to feeding out and become less bothered.

Well done on the loss zyla! That's fab!

GPS seem really mixed on how well they deal with that 6week check la, even just in my NCT group there was a range of usefulness. A few of them weren't even asked about mood and at least two didn't even get their scar checked from section! Mine had a check list to work down and, while I didn't really feel she was engaged in the appointment much and wanted me out, at least everything was covered. You could go back?

popz - just hugs and love for you. You're amazing.

Fleurchamp · 06/10/2015 08:36

Morning all!

So, S has been asleep at 8pm four nights in a row - a record! we won't mention the rest of the night

Sorry you have had bad trips out purple and mountain I remember my worst day ever was spent at a shopping centre wheeling a screaming S round with my mum telling me that he can't be hungry again.... I cried too. I think that was around 3/4 weeks.

I was still regularly crying until 6 weeks Blush

I was impressed with my check at the Drs. She didn't ask me specific questions, made it more into a friendly chat. She dealt with PND really well and made me feel that I could actually talk to her and not put on my "everything is fine" act.

I am going to see a friend today and her 4 week old. It's a bit weird as we are really close (she was the first friend to meet S) but she has kept me at arms length since having her baby. I wonder whether she is struggling.

Have a good day all

LaLaLaaaa · 06/10/2015 09:18

Hiya

Shit couple of nights here - anyone on Facebook will see my post about b groaning with trapped wind all night - gone from 4am every morning to 11pm now. Means I don't get any sleep because I'm either holding his legs up to help him fart or worrying that he's in loads of pain. He's asleep though so it can't be that painful?! I think it's due to immature gut but I'm worried that he's not sleeping well enough and it's doing harm. He seems bright enough this morning though.

I really feel for you viroids struggling to go out but urge you to persevere as it gets easier! I normally boob a bit before I'm due to leave the house and I then usually end up feeding him when out too. I used to find it hard to feed when out but now it's easier. If you're worried about being caught on the hop bf why not try and express a bit and take it with you to feed on the go?

Crying is totally normal! I used to cry every day but it got better as I got more used to both the lack of sleep and him.

I am disappointed with my PN check - hv did questionnaire with me for pnd and said I needed to speak to gp about pnd but GP didn't seem interested. She didn't ask to see my CS scar and also was useless on contraception advice. I was told to go to family planning clinic which is a half hour drive away.

Zyla - well done!!!!!! That's fantastic!

Mr La is away in London all this week so I've got DM staying which is wonderful because I've got another cold and feel like shit and she takes B for me!

purplewhale · 06/10/2015 10:42

Morning viroids.

So we had plans to get up and out and walk to the docs. Unfortunately B had other ideas and pooed and peed all over the changing mat and his clothes while I was trying to get him dressed. Cue more sobbing! Drove to the GP who was running 20 mins late and we could have walked! Cried on her, she's a bit concerned about me but said it could well be normal. Good news is no more antibiotics, bad news is they want to look at my scar again next week and also see if I'm doing any better so not really bad news. Have also booked my 6 week check for 2 weeks time. B is 4 weeks old today, must take a pic with his milestone card.
Health visitor coming round soon for more patronising
I think we will get out for a walk this afternoon, maybe get the train to the next town for a mooch. I need a Halloween costume for B Smile

La, that sounds rough without DH but glad your mum is there to help. My mum would be more use than DH but don't tell him that, he's still learning! Did you decide if you were going to visit him?

purplewhale · 06/10/2015 10:44

Oh and B also groans in his sleep. I tend to leave him to it but then I have ear plugs in due to DH snoring. I do hear if he cries though. We're now on infacol every feed

LaLaLaaaa · 06/10/2015 10:56

Purple - do chat to people if you're feeling overwhelmed but please do believe me that you're not alone! I felt completely confused and upset for the first 6 weeks that I didn't feel euphoric about being a mum. I was also hating breastfeeding. It DOES get better as you get to know your baby and start to get used to their cries and habits.

If you've not seen then do try to watch it. It really helped me as B does these noises and it's remarkable! The other day he was making a funny noise for ages before I realised it was 'heh heh' which means 'uncomfortable'. I picked him up and his nappy was totally full and I hadn't realised. The 'eh' wind one really helps too as I know to wind him before putting him down to sleep when he does that one.

cookielove · 06/10/2015 11:54

Hello hello hello :)

la I found that clip really interesting :)

We used infacol when E was little, it helped him bring his wind up, we had no issues with the other end! I love now that he winds himself :)

I use to wear ear plugs when E was in the room with me and also when he moved next door with the monitor. Now we don't use the monitor and no ear plugs and i get a much better night sleep.

With the angel care monitor I use to keep them next to each other but have the parent unit on mute which stopped the interference. My friend use to only use the kid unit and left the parent unit off all night as the alarm still works.

E is starting to drop down to one nap Shock I know he was walking and everything now but really this means he is growing up!!

comeagainforbigfudge · 06/10/2015 13:04

Oh purple try not to be so hard on yourself. In fact everyone needs to not be hard on yourself. Society has set us up to expect to be out and about at baby meets, that Breast feeding is the simplest way to feed your baby reading various threads I would say it's by far the hardest. Bottles are a faff yes, but so much easier to pin point the issues that you can bounce back to the pre baby you in the blink of an eye.

In reality, if your lucky it's a straightforward birth. If not, you need to deal with stitches, loss of blood, exhaustion from hours and hours of labour, lack of sleep, inadequate pain relief. I could go on but you get the drift.

There was clearly a reason why mums were kept in hospital for X amount of time. To minimise the amount you can do to let you recover. I have a friend who was out and about too quickly that her stitches burst!!

If you a ftm, it's a steep steep learning curve that no amount of reading/questions asking can prepare you for. I was certainly not prepared for the amount of crying I did. Those hormones!!

I'll be honest, the first few weeks I was just happy if I managed to shower and dress and get outside into fresh air. Trips to the supermarket were just about it bout all I could manage. It took a full 12 weeks until I felt more together. Even having a conversation longer than 10mins was hard going. Concentration span was shot!!

I don't know if it's been mentioned before but Google "fourth trimester".

Okay ill stop lecturing Grin but I'm sitting in Starbucks with a child who decided to fall asleep just as I was about to go back to car! So nowt else to do.

comeagainforbigfudge · 06/10/2015 13:06

Ps. To clarify bf is best, certainly, but it is not easy. Kudos to those who managed Grin

Pisghetti · 06/10/2015 14:28

Hey viroids.

Brew Cake and possible Wine for all of you having a rough ride.

I'm slightly traumatised. The blitzshitz are continuing (although her rash has gone and she seems brighter) I heard her poo this morning while we were getting ready to leave the house so I nipped her upstairs to change her. Lots of poo. Mid change she pooed again and there was just so much of it everywhere! Outfit a write off, changing mat covered, baby covered. Took ages to sort out. When she was finally clean and dressed again I popped her on the floor and went to wash my hands and heard another rumble. She'd filled another nappy and it had exploded out and up too. How can a small baby produce so much shit? Seriously - where is it coming from?! Her play mat , bouncy chair, my new sling (sob) and about a dozen outfits have had to have an emergency wash in the past couple of days. Normally she goes once every few days. Has she been saving it up for the past month?

Anyway, when we finally left the house about 45 minutes later we drove 40 miles to a Daisy mums meet up which was a waste of time. There were about 50 people there and no one I recognised so I had a quick coffee, B sucked on some manky looking toys and then we left.

Well done zyla! Impressed you lost on holiday. Two ladies came back from fortnight long holidays yesterday - one had gained 8.5lbs and the other 15lbs! Apparently that's a club record. They're both targeting mega losses next week but regret nothing Smile I chipped off 2lbs and aiming for 2.5 this week to take me to a stone. I was considering SP for a week but while I was thinking about it I made a big cheesy pasta bake which will last me until Thursday... My favourite thing about SW is being encouraged to eat more cheese because I'm bf Grin all the recipes of theirs I've tried have been fantastic except desserts. Can't seem to get them right at all. I might try tiramisu this week (taster session next week so I can hand out the extras)

RPopz · 06/10/2015 18:18

Noooooo Pis not the WW!? Shock Poor mite. Hope she's better soon. Can't even imagine having to deal with a baby with arse rain Confused

N'awww Dulce - whassat for??

I second the fourth trimester stuff that fudge recommends.

Purple - the HV was "keeping an eye" on me after my 4 and 6 week checks for PND. Try not to worry about it. Fwiw, I think it's pretty difficult to distinguish PND from just normal reaction to the whirlwind that is the first few weeks of having a new born. I cried every day for about 4 weeks and pretty much all night every night for a while! It's tough. You'll get there Flowers

ZylaB · 06/10/2015 18:20

Oh shit pis I'd forgotten! What the hell am I going to do for taster session next week?! Well done on nearly a stone! That's amazing when you've got so much less than me to lose in the first place!

RPopz · 06/10/2015 18:23

Shock Pis - not the WW!? Hope she's better soon, poor mite.

N'aww Dulcet - whassat for?

RPopz · 06/10/2015 18:26

Ok maybe the internet didn't eat it! Stupid mn!!

RPopz · 06/10/2015 18:27

As you were.... Grin

Minion · 06/10/2015 19:26

Hahaha popz!
I do so love an 'as you where's

Question for peeps with older babies than R; we all know her complete and utter dislike for milk, but it's getting worse.
She now will only have 100-120 in the morning, a full 180 most days around 2:30pm and only about 120 at bedtime.
So, shall I Bollocks off the morning bottle and give her a cup with her breakfast?

She's just not into it whatsoever.
She just wants solids.
Is she a bit young to drop to two bottles!? (9.5 months)

purplewhale · 06/10/2015 20:13

Thanks Popz that's what I can't figure out. Is this normal or PND?

Viroids I'm having a small glass of wine, it's been a long time coming. I don't know what it will fix but I feel better for it

LaLaLaaaa · 06/10/2015 20:28

purple to me you really do sound like a normal new mum - it's exactly how I felt and from speaking to friends it's exactly how they felt too. Please don't be too hard on yourself! But if you do suspect pnd then obviously seek help x

pis oh poor wee minipis!!!! That's sounds horrendous both for her and for you! I hope she gets well soon poor little mite!

popz ha! that made me laugh!

I love the 4th tri stuff - I try to remind myself of it all the time, whenever B is being clingy I remind myself of it as of course he wants to be on me all the time, its not long since he was inside me and it's a big thing for a wee baby to have to leave that! Also trying to remember that babies are doing everything for the first time and it's so overwhelming for them.

Today I learned that shopping with a wee baby is NOT as much fun as shopping without! We went to get some clothes for B (he's nearly in 6-9 months at 10 weeks old - WTF!?). What's with M&S not having loos where I can go for a pee with my baby in the buggy?? I had to change him on a table in front of everyone in the toilets by the sinks where everyone else was washing their hands - then I had to take him into the disabled loos so I could pee. He screamed when I bf him in the cafe, then all the way home because he didn't feed enough and was hungry. Meanwhile every person in town seemed to be walking straight AT me - what's with that?? And I tried to buy post-bub jeans in Topshop but they didn't have one single pair of straight cut jeans - they were all skinny. I love skinny jeans and I'm wearing mine whenever I leave the house but I wanted a pair of comfy normal jeans for the house.

Viroids....does this mean I'm too OLD to shop in Topshop now!?!??!

RPopz · 06/10/2015 20:40

I have been "too old" to shop in Topshop for some time! Bad times. I like Zara skinny jeans. I definitely do not recommend Primarni jeggings - they are wank.

Enjoy your wine purple Wine I suppose it it goes on beyond 6 weeks+ or you're feeling like you're not bonding with B then it goes into the realm of not normal. But I'm no expert obvs. I think it's doubley tough when you're unprepared for these feelings - I had NO clue about all the hormone comedown stuff, and that was hell on earth. Your body's just done a massive amazing thing though. Basically just.... Ride it out. WineWineWine

RPopz · 06/10/2015 20:42

Min - I think minipopz is a week or so younger than R but he has dramatically dropped milk feeds recently. He didn't have one until 4pm today!! He's drinking water and eating food though so I'm not too worried... He makes up for it at night though, the little bugger. Think you can get vitamin supplements if you're worried she's not taking enough milk though? Zyla was talking about it the other day I think?

gaggiagirl · 06/10/2015 20:49

Hello. I did survive the school run, with my make up on! Win!
I did loads today. I moved everything into the kitchen, swept and mopped and dusted and oiled two pine planks then I had another big bleed. Urgh.
Well done dieting viroids!