Just Mumming 8 - the one with the fire crawlers, wind machines and the Health Visitor revolt

[WilHarlot]

Add your stats Viroids (or don't bother). I feel like there's something I'm supposed to write here but don't know what it is...

Just read it and yep I read it the same as you zyla! Seems strange that no one has ever actually told us that before.... I would think that as long as you and H are eating a varied (ish) diet then it's not really an issue!?

I would've thought formula had vitamins added too.

Im going to assume she's fine, my diet has been pretty good since I've been doing slimming world, and H actually quite likes veggies so far so should be fine (not that she eats much yet). We'll start on the drops today or tomorrow too.

Formula does, as long as they have enough. I think it's for when the amount of milk they have goes down because of solids :)

I think the advice is very inconsistent. My friend who lives down the road but in a different borough hasn't been told about vitamins at all. I think it's really to cover children/ families with very poor diets who don't get to play outside much.

No mention of vitamins here either. So long as one of the things they need is sugar then J should be well topped up!

You need to make friends with DH to get that second baby on the way popz! I guess angry sex will work just as well though.

Not sure what to suggest with your new friend la but guess it might have to be a bit of turning down invites or not necessarily telling her you're doing stuff. Shame if she's lonely but maybe you could tell her about other groups you've heard of that you aren't going to? Nearer her house or something?

No vitamins advised here either! Perhaps they think those in the south bask in the warm sunshine all day? aye right!

Yeah I think I'm going to selectively answer her texts. She's really nice and I don't want to be mean so I'll never consciously leave her out but I just won't offer as much info about what I'm doing. Just found out she's the only other person doing course tomorrow, then also next week's other course

She has been out on outings with my mum friends without me so hopefully I've helped her make some friends

La I don't know how long the paediatrician appointment will take. HV said over three months (!) but GP said we should get one quite quickly.

Did story reading with MiniSnap for the first time yesterday and he was hypnotised. Love him.

La we're in London so I think it's more a case of inner city children sitting in front of the telly/ computer all day!

MelbaToast has to have vile vitamins every day until she's 2 because of her prematurity, she's very good at spitting it out though and so never ends up with the full dose :(
purple and deeply the routine thing baffles me too- I know 3 weeks is too early to think about it but at some point i would like to know that there will be a rough time to wake up, get up, play/go out, bath time and bed time etc and that feeding will also happen at fairly predictable times throughout the day too. I don't really know how we transition into that from the current sleep/feed/nappy cycle that happens every 2-4 hours.

Toast you may find it easier to plan your day when feeds become a little more spaced out but I found even at 6 months it was difficult to time activities around feeds and naps. I realised I just had to be flexible and just go for it, delay naps, let him get over tired or a bit hungry and grumpy sometimes otherwise we would never have done anything.

The first routine-y thing we did was start to read a story or two and sing a lullaby before the early evening sleep, at about 12 weeks I think. That bit hasn't changed for three years!

Toast that was my thoughts too. We were half an hour late going out this morning as I mistimed his feeds and realised that I had to feed him before we went out. He's not feeding at the same times every day for me to be able to plan anything. I think I'm being too rigid and expecting too much. I also think I need to be more organised and allow more time.

We only got an hour with mil today as we had to go meet my sil, although she did get to see him awake for the first time, I felt bad as she's further away and doesn't see as much of him!

Tomorrow we are having a lazy day with just a walk round the village planned.

New car seat time tomorrow, she's just getting too heavy to be lifting in and out of the car in the seat, so I may as well move her up into the one I want which swivels, even though she's not too big for the first one...it'll make life easier!

I've just ordered over half our Christmas presents and know what we're getting for almost everyone else! There's something wrong with me.

Which car seat are you getting zyla? Does it fit the Isofix? We got a stupid combination (cabriofix and Isofix) and I'm dreading the next stage as I know we'll probably need to buy whole new kit! Had to move B up in the car seat today as he's too big for the cushion and first straps - he's only 9 weeks old for god's sake!

purple and deeply - we've started a routine with B since about 3 weeks old. Nothing complicated - we do clear night/day so during day I keep music/TV on and have curtains open, from 6:30 I have all curtains/shades closed and speak quietly to him. At night feeds I don't speak to him at all (unless he's upset of course to soothe him). We started bathing him at 4 weeks and do that every night now at 6:30pm. Depending on whether he's hungry or not beforehand I feed him before or after bath. If before then he gets a bit more after bath to make him sleepy. The bedroom is made dark with just a nightlight on and I cuddle him and tell him a story (usually something daft at the moment that I make up off the top of my head as he's too little for a proper book story - he's usually too tired for that). He's normally dropped off by that point so I put him in crib with white noise on and Ewan the dream sheep.

We've only just started putting him upstairs from bath to when I go to bed, just because he wasn't sleeping well in lounge with us in the evening. Previously we had him in the carry cot in the lounge from bath time until we went to bed but he just kept waking up. He sleeps better upstairs and we have the monitor on and I check on him regularly.

It is pretty early to have started a routine - but he seems to be falling into it OK. He is very very tired though by evening so he starts crying sometimes just from tiredness during bath and feed. I keep the bath very short so its nice and pleasant for him rather than upsetting and if he wants feeding before the bath then I just go ahead and feed him as he's only little still and feeds on demand.

In terms of your daily routine - definitely definitely try to chill out and just let him lead. My mistake at the start was to try to control it all and I was stressing myself and him out. If we're going somewhere I usually try to boob him before we go, but if he's asleep or not hungry then I just do it when I get wherever I'm going. He still feeds a lot during the day - there's no set times really, although it roughly follows the 7, 10, 1, 4 pattern. I think the best thing I learned was just to go with it and remember that I've got nowhere particularly to be and that he's a newborn for only a short amount of time. So if he's cluster feeding then just get comfy and have the remotes to hand. If he wants cuddles then I cuddle him and let him go to sleep on me if he wants.

Hi gals.
Home now, r was brill on the flight, so relieved.
I've got R on vits as she's shit with milk, had to find out from a mum friend, HV only told me about them when I questioned them.
Her room has black out blinds but as it's a bay window it's hard to keep light out. Her room is on a main riad and 4:30 is when the selfish cunting lorries start up.
We shall see if sleeping through continues eh.

That is ridiculously organised Zyla!! I don't get paid again til January now so no one's getting any pressies off me!

Ugh. MiniP needs a new car seat soon. The car doesn't do isofix though which makes our choice quite limited. Plus I don't want him forward facing yet!

I wouldn't worry about a routine too much yet viroids. I've never been massively routine led and yet miniPopz has naturally fallen into a routine of his own over time. It is difficult when all people ever say when you have a new born is "oooh are they in a routine yet?"

Just lost out on ANOTHER house. Fucks sake.

We're getting an isofix one yes. I thought I wanted a maxi cosi axissfix, but now I'm thinking a britax dual fix. They both swivel around for easy putting in and removal of child, but the britax has the option to rear face up to approx 4 years, depending on length, and the maxi cosi only to about 2 years, then forward facing...and rear facing is meant to be a lot safer.

purple was it you with access to which? Any chance you could have a peek for me please for those? Thanks!

la we got the same as you for newborn car seat, but the next stages up stay in the car mostly, so I won't be using the isofix base, these next ones have the isofix as part of it iyswim?

Oh god, I'm shit at reading things, la have you taken the wedge out of the cabriofix? Then the fabric bit out? You should do both those before moving straps up :)

popz that sucks so much about houses, sorry :(

Aw crap popz, did the same thing happen again?

toast, if you have a 2-4hr cycle thing going on then that kind of is a routine for now. At least it's as much of a routine as we have at 11weeks. Feed, play, cry until I can get him to sleep, repeat - every two hours pretty much. Unfortunately this is over night too...

Great news of the referal snap, hoping it's before 3 months thoughZ surely they can't leave you that long!

Holiday success for you then min. Excellent! Do you feel refreshed? Hopefully she has carried it on at home!

Went to the sling library yesterday and swapped the woven for something else that I can't remember the name of with buckles. I like the look of it but not used in practice yet. Never sure how long I can reasonably get out of a sling so have never done more than walk to he shops. Have any of you taken them all day in one? Thinking of going to a car boot Sunday and taking him in it then but what if he gets fed up being in it??

Yep I suppose it's sort of a routine, I guess what would be nice to aim for is knowing that, say, she gets fed at midday and then we know we can go out at 1 or something. Would make planning things easier. But reality is that it could be any time that she wakes up and wants a feed and Sod's law would state it would be right at the time I wanted to leave the house. But I am aware I'm probably wishfully thinking and the reality is just that of having a baby. I've not tried waking her early for a feed yet to try to fit in with other plans as I'm worried it would all go tits up if I did.
dulcet can you take the pram in the car and go back and swap if he gets fed up in the sling?

Well she slept through but i's bright eyed at 6am!
Tried her with milk, not fussed, so am waiting it out for 20 mins and if she doesn't nod back off its Netflix o clock downstairs

That's good though min! Glad she's following through at home

Toast - definitely wishful thinking just now I'm afraid! She's so little still and it's likely the feed times will fluctuate a bit for a while, plus when she has cluster feeding days or jabs or anything that throws day off at all then feeds can change. Just go with it if you can - you could express and take milk with you if you're worried about feeding when out but I find it's easier just to bf

It is early to start routine but we are making sure we are very flexible and if he is needing feeding earlier or later he gets it. It's just a rough thing at the moment but it seems to be working as he stopped screaming at bath, then now settles down for feed after bath which he didn't before, and he goes to sleep quite quickly at night. Last night he went 7-12:30 then 1-5 which is the best so far. The most important thing for me was helping him see difference between day and night so he now goes back down after night feed quite quickly whereas in day we'd play with him after feed and make it noisy. He is spacing things out himself though and we are just following him in terms of feeds.

Dulcet is it an ergo? I have one and love it!

Zyla - yes I took cushion out and adjusted straps. The head guard can stay in for the moment, I checked the manual. With cushion he was all hunched up and looked really uncomfortable. He looks much happier in it now. His head is nearly at the top though!

Worked out that even though B makes god awful groaning noise from 4:30am he is actually asleep! Previously I kept taking him out thinking he wanted feeding. So I just ignored it until he woke wanting feeding. How he can sleep making all that noise I've no idea!

Dulcet I'm a bit wary of that too so I take buggy on car if I go somewhere. The one thing I discovered was that I can't sit down with him in ergo so he has to come out and sit on my knee. But otherwise we've used it everywhere and he settles really well

So sorry Popz I missed where you said you'd lost another house - that's rotten! Really sorry :(