Just Mumming 8 - the one with the fire crawlers, wind machines and the Health Visitor revolt

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Add your stats Viroids (or don't bother). I feel like there's something I'm supposed to write here but don't know what it is...

i was at GP for blood pressure today (which is too high to stop tablets yet, it was much better when mws were doing it in hospital and at home last week but not playing ball today apparently, so quite annoyed about that for a start, not to mention the hospital I delivered at not sending GP ANY summary and failing to give me any paperwork when I was discharged either despite me asking if there was anything I needed- that's another story) and asked her then because my insurance company said it was fine whenever GP said so- GP said at least 6 weeks! Seems totally arbitrary, because I feel able to drive, I can get up and down from the floor multiple times a day with baby in my arms after nappy changes because we have no nursery yet to set up changing table in so surely I can do an emergency stop!

Yay dulcet 8 minutes is great :) gotta start some where!

Wow mountain that's amazing! Ahhh lil I am still rooting for her, does anyone know how she is getting on!?

Hmmm I'd probably ask someone else

Hi ladies, haven't checked in for a few days - glad to see you're all just about holding on to your marbles. Mine have rolled under the sofa and I fear I may never find them again.

Dulcet, 8 minutes, woop woop! That is long enough to go to the loo/ make a cup of tea (though not drink it)/ eat a piece of cake. Small victories!

Hope Centre Parcs is ok, Pixie. I completely understand what you mean about things being more hassle than they're worth. I went to stay with family in Wales last week. Some things were harder but other things made life easier, like having people to play with 3 year old P, getting fed proper food and having company all through the day. And just having a change of scene. I was more exhausted than ever afterwards (travelling long distance by train and tube with toddler and baby isn't much fun) but I'm glad I did it.

Purple, you are doing brilliantly! I took P to his first NCT coffee group at 2 weeks and was unbelievably anxious, but 3 years down the line we're all still in touch and his best friend at nursery is an NCT friend. I dipped in and out of the group but it was nice to know they were there when I was feeling up to it.

Sorry not to acknowledge everyone, I'm on the mobile site and find it quite difficult to follow who said what.

We were back at baby clinic today for yet more weighing. MiniSnap's weight gain is minimal, despite sticking a bottle in his mouth every waking minute on HV's advice. We're being referred to speech and language therapy for infant feeding assessment and she's also suggested to GP that we're referred to paediatrician and dietitian, though she said GPs don't like being told what to do. Still no idea what to do do about the immediate problem of MiniSnap NOT DRINKING ANY FRICKING MILK.

Mammoth post, sorry!

popz genius idea about the poppers!

Hello!

The baby is asleep upstairs - eek! I've got the monitor on and it is fucking nerve-wracking! But so far so good - he went down at 7pm without as much fuss as usual and he's still asleep. Last night he did 8-1. I had a major minor anxiety meltdown before deciding to put him upstairs. My anxiety spiralled to the point where I was in massive amounts of tears. But a friend of mine put it quite plainly - he will be fine, SIDS is rare and you can either let your anxiety rule your life, or you can take control. So I bit the bullet. Still terrified though!

It means though that me and the puss-tats are chilling downstairs having a cuddle and I can have my dinner without being frightened I'm going to wake B up.

cookie I'm so pleased E is feeling better - hopefully you can catch up on some sleep.

min I hope minimin starts behaving and you get to have some proper holiday time!

How are you feeling today pixie?

purple glad you liked the class. Try to see if there's an NCT schedule for classes in your area. You dont need to be a member and they do really good classes and group meetings, usually that you just pay a pound or two to attend. We have family centres in our area too where classes are free to attend.

I'm glad you asked that about supermarket trolleys! I've not been at all because I didn't know what to do with the baby! I get my shopping delivered anyway but I have to go occasionally.

popz what's NTNP??? Trying for new baby? Ooooo! We're already talking about number 2. It's one of hte reasons I'm thinking of stopping bf before 6 months, as I'd like some time just being 'me' before being pregnant again. I know that's quite selfish but I got pregnant with B straight after my mc and before that I'd been trying for so long to get pg that I feel like my body hasn't been 'mine' for so long and I want a bit of a rest from baby trying/carrying/feeding.

Honestly though - I do think you've forgotten the newborn stage! ha ha! ;) (sorry)

Loving the sleepsuit tip pis! but sorry MiniP is being a bit of a monster! My world was rocked the other day by the revelation that vests can come off downwards as well as over the head, so I'll be utilising your tip equally!

How did work go dulcet? Ive got my first KIT day next week for half a day - woo!

I slept a bit last night and dh let me have two hours extra this morning which made me feel like a NEW WOMAN! woo! He's forgiven me for calling him a selfish c* the other morning for pulling a fast one and not giving me any rest, despite promising.

mountain - the bits we had to buy for the 2nd hand pump were the actual funnel bit and the pipe that goes to the pump. we bought the pump mechanism second hand and bought all the bits news.
Baby group sounded poo - don't be put off though keep going, there are so many different ones and you can find the ones that work for you. My favourite is 'baby play time' - translated as 'put sleeping baby down on massive fluffy rug with all other babies and then mums chat to each other'. Excellent.

toast give your mw a cal and ask if you can drive. They told me I could at 3 weeks and insurance company said as long as mw was ok with it then they were happy. It's to do with the emergency stop. I told mw that I was lugging around a 12lb (at that point!) baby each day and so an emergency stop was a piece of piss!

B is nearly over the jabs horror - he was really not himself for three days afterwards and he's definitely found his lip now. My 'good morning darling!' this morning got response of lip stuck out, red face and then huge scream. Nice to see you too son! But he's a good boy really.

zyla - 9 times????!

That was Pis's idea I think snap! How old is minisnap? Is he actively losing weight?

It's not terrible Dulcet . I know you had a tough start. I didn't enjoy those first few weeks either... spent most of them crying iirc! I feel like next time it will be easier in that I will be expecting it to be awful, iyswim!?

NTNP = not trying not protecting La. I don't know how long I'll be able to do that without getting obsessed with it again! Depends on how long minipopz keeps boobing for as well I suppose.

I have mostly forgotten the horror of newborns. And labour. And pregnancy

That's one epic sleep B!! Well done for keeping the anxiety in check La

Ha yes, getting my Pises and my Popzes mixed up!

MiniSnap is 12 weeks. We've had feeding issues since day one. He's dropping centiles but not actually losing weight. I don't think his weight gain looks that awful but GP wants weekly weights and HV wants us to feed him every two hours and wake him up for feeds at night. None of which addresses the actual feeding issues of refusal, writhing, arching, screaming when the bottle comes near him. And I'm shoving milk at him so often I don't think he even knows when he's hungry anymore. Bleugh.

Have they ruled out colic/ reflux/ intolerance/ tongue tie? Is he generally happy and alert, meeting developmental milestones etc? Does he have plenty of wet and dirty nappies per day? Dropping down the percentile chart is not really an issue in the itself - although hvs like to get a bee in their bonnet about it! Babies can take a while to find their place and settle on the chart where they should be. I don't think it necessarily means there's anything wrong or that you're not feeding him enough or "properly". Have you read the book "Help, my child won't eat" ? Bit of a misleading title as its actually mostly about babies, feeding, weight gain etc. I think it might help you. It's really about just trusting your child to now when and how much he really needs to eat, and how negative associations can easily form, forcing them to feed when they don't want to. (Hope that doesn't sound judgey - it isn't meant to!). Perhaps he just isn't that hungry!? Disclaimer: I'm a total lentil weaver so feel free to disregard everything I say Minipopz hasn't been weighed since he was 8 weeks old

Thanks Popz, that book does sound interesting. Mini was born with severe tongue tie. His initial op was botched zany done without adequate pain relief (long story) and had to be corrected by a paediatric surgeon. So he was in considerable pain for the first few weeks of his life. We couldn't establish bf and now he struggled with ff too. He has reflux, you can hear the liquid going up and down and it makes him cry. He can hardly feed at all in the mornings, gets a bit better as the day goes on but can only take tiny volumes, hence the advice to feed frequently to maintain his calorie intake.

If he didn't have an aversion before he probably does now - although we never force/ insist he is offered the bottle very frequently and I don't like it. I told the HV yesterday that the two hourly thing is exhausting for all of us and I don't think I can sustain it - she pretty much said I have to and made me feel awful for suggesting that I'd like to feed him less often. A GP I saw the other week literally rolled her eyes when I said we'd been trying to feed on demand.

He's on hypoallergenic milk at the moment but it hasn't made any difference to comfort/ amount of milk taken.

snap Will they put him on a high calorie formula? If he isn't gaining he clearly needs something more, I can find out the name if you like, so you can ask for it?

I would stop the 2 hourly thing personally. If you're all exhausted and fractious that definitely isn't going to help matters. Oh and get yourself a new HV and GP!

That would be great, thanks Cookie. x

I hear you Popz! DP partner is taking the baby for his GP review tomorrow, as I think I will lose it at her!

Snap that sounds exhausting! Definitely see if you can get a paediatric referral as your GP sounds like a tool. Two hourly feeding of a baby who might not be hungry is stressful - my baby loves boob but if I try to feed him when not hungry he screams and gets stressed. Anyone would if they're having something they don't want forced on them!

Popz I think you're right that next time you're probably more aware of what to expect so it might feel less overwhelming. My friends swear no 2 was easier but I guess it depends on the individual baby.

Crappy night last night. He went 7-1 (woo) which is obviously brill but then woke at 2:30 and wouldn't settle for rest of the night. I'm v tired!

Going for lunch with work colleagues today but otherwise I think we will be chilling on the sofa!

B has become a dribble monster - yuck!

Snap that does sound exhausting. My nephew has silent reflux and has to be fed sitting upright, it's easier now he's older though. Have you tried a cup?

La, I can believe it about supermarkets. It was fine, couldn't get a parent and child space but got a trolley for him, with a reclining seat made sure my pfb didn't touch the seat though and lay him on a muslin. He slept all the way round till we got back to the car when he screamed the place down and I ended up at my friend nearby to feed and change him! I think I'll go back to online shopping too!

We've also been talking about no2. Time isn't on our side but I don't want too small a gap. I'll be going back to work when he's 10 months old and need to be back a while. I also want to lose a good amount of weight and be able to ditch the insulin, although that's not a given. The insulin caused a lot of complications and I'd like a more straightforward pregnancy next time

We're braving the hairdresser this morning. I desperately need my hair cutting. No idea how it will go!

That's a good word for her La! Same GP that told me I should be doing sit ups 6 weeks after I had my first little boy.

I haven't tried a cup, Purple but we do feed him pretty much upright. I'm feeling hopeful about the SLT feeding assessment as it will be the first time anyone's actually watched him feed. Just hope we don't have to wait too long.

Supermarket trips remain a challenge at three years, although better than when P was two. He used to scream in a rage and lie on the ground and either go floppy or completely rigid like a plank so that I couldn't buckle him into the buggy. You always think people are staring at you but I think it's often parents who are thinking 'thank god it's not me this time'!

I found labour much less daunting the second time round, and I knew what to ask for and what I didn't want. It was a lovely water birth, I was very lucky. But it's been much harder with newborn number two than with number one, as there have been so many issues. I wouldn't swap him for the world though. It really does depend on the baby.

snap the formula is called Simulac :)

Fx you can get it prescribed!

Minimal battery on shitty wifi do a quick, hi there and hello. And to let you all know r is still sleeping through and less stressed so holiday has resumed.
Except today the weather is lightening and thundering and epic rain so trying to entertain a curious 9 month old is exhausting. X
Hope you are all well.

Thank you Cookie! x

My friend swears blind two kids is easier than one.... They entertain each other! I'm a little scared of another labour though, which upsets me as I wasn't last time. Hoping for a nice straight forward "healing" birth experience but that could massively backfire!!

Our power has gone off and I'm MISSING JUDGE RINDER!!