Just Mumming 8 - the one with the fire crawlers, wind machines and the Health Visitor revolt

[WilHarlot]

Add your stats Viroids (or don't bother). I feel like there's something I'm supposed to write here but don't know what it is...

Oh god wil I needed that laugh!

Absolute pits here. I've lost all my confidence and I'm scared feeding b. He has spluttered a few times at feeds since we got back yesterday and it reduced me to a hysterical mess. Mums here helping but I'm dreading her going.

I can't get the image of him out of my head - eyes open not breathing.

Since getting home he's been really snotty and mucus in throat which hasn't helped. Given him ranitidine. He doesn't seem to me to have reflux symptoms but what do I know? I'm breaking myself in two trying to feed him in upright position for reflux at same time as high up above nipple for my fast letdown. It is stressful and miserable. He then kicks off because he can feel I'm stressed.

Sorry for me me me post I'll catch up later.

Anyone experience of laryngomalacia? Lactation consultant has suggested it and now I'm even more terrified as if there's nothing wrong with him then I can think it was freak accident but if it's that then it could happen again.

Basically I feel horrendous and shit

Hi deeply! You're doing great - as pixie says if baby is still alive by end of day then you've won at parenting! Forget about anything else you have to do for now.

Sorry you're feeling like this la I'm afraid I can't add anything useful but I can't even begin to imagine how you are feeling right now

Love the poo stories

So tired. So glad it's the weekend and DH is here so I get to have a small break.

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Hello Deeply! If your little one sleeps at all during the day try and dive into bed for 20 minutes, just the rest will help even if you can't sleep. Completely understand your apprehension about DH going back to work, but in a funny way you might find it easier to get into a routine of sorts when it's just you and the baby. Until then, make full use of him and eat your body weight in cake!

La so sorry to hear you're struggling. I hope you'll gradually feel more confident the further that horrid experience is behind you. The hospital team wouldn't have discharged you back to bf if they thought it was high risk. Are they following B up?

Hi deeply! Try and catch some zzz's in the day if you can! Think it's 6-8 weeks before they sleep any length of time. I realise that sounds terrifying but it'll fly by. Hope it's all going well

Sorry you're still feeling shitty La - don't know what to suggest really. Can you feed lying down, with B on his side?

Oh god chook ... Minipopz LOVES shouting. It actually hurts my ears!!

Lol wil ... I dread poo these days.... It inevitably ends up EVERYWHERE as he's always determined to crawl away from me with his shitty arse in the air... Glad you enjoyed your week away at least.

Sympathies Min! My ERTD is yet to reappear.

Wine is being consumed here too fleur Cheers!

Purple- Pretty sure tummy time is almost straight away. It helps their necks to become more stable, my eldest hated it and point blank refused, needless to say there's never been anything wrong with her physical development, could still hold her head up on her own at 4 months- crawling at 9 months and walking at 10 months (that was a busy 4 weeks!)

Wil I think I may have my own poomageddon! My tummy is not feeling right at all! Had the shivers, achey legs and headache which have all passed and now I feel like I'm going to shit myself! Thank god I don't feel sick, I hate being sick, I pretty much nearly have a panic attack when o feel a bout coming on. Don't ask me how I managed with morning sickness because I didn't! I was just lucky that both times only lasted about 6 weeks- some women have MS every day throughout. I would've killed myself.
Hi Deeply! Not seen you in a while, hope you're well apart from your mastered zombie walk- we all have one don't you worry.
Minion I must admit that my period pains have stopped completely. Which doesn't bode well when my periods are all over the place since having R. Last time I was having a wee and then was like "oh AF is here" no warning, no nothing! Imagine if I'd been out of the house! Tell you what I'm so heavy as well it's ridiculous. I've never been a super tampon kinda girl but seriously I need a sheep because tampons don't work for me on their own anymore. Tmi I do apologise

Fleur that's a bit shit of your boss to do that! I just don't have a job, I got pregnant so soon after having P and in the meantime my company went bumpf so ended up on JSA (that was lovely-not). Nobody wanted to hire a 5 month pregnant woman because I could realistically only work about 12-14 weeks. At one point I was encouraged to go on ESA until I'd had R and recovered and now I get nothing. No help whatsoever as I didn't work enough to get maternity allowance and obvs no job = no stat mat pay. It's a bit shit really but in a way I'm glad because I really fucking hated my last job. It was awful.

Anyway no news here apart from impending case of the shits! P and R are both fine albeit P is teething and R is on his second leap so sleep is few and far between.
It's ST birthday on Sunday and we are going out for a meal with his family. To be honest I'm not looking forward to it, every time I eat R screams, then I start feeling anxious and it puts me off eating. At this rate though if I end up with the runs I won't be going anywhere!

La I really don't have any useful info with regards to that condition but all I can say is that you're doing an amazing job and you're an amazing mummy to B. I really hope it was a freak accident and never ever happens again (So mote it be- sorry just a thing we hippies say when we really want something). Don't let it knock your confidence and just enjoy the time with your mum at the moment. She sounds really helpful. I just want to give your big hug and some cake and tell you everything's going to be fine.

Hello all!

Sorry to hear you have lost your confidence la breastfeeding never stuck with E so not much I can advise on with that, but I can say what I know is true that you are a great mum and you will get through this :)

pixie I have a bit if a phobia about throwing up too, I was sick last week luckily only threw up once (well several times but in one sitting). Ms was the only thing I was dreading in pregnancy and I fortunately didn't get it (hurrah) although was nauseous though! I was desperate to avoid E getting the bug as both dh and i had it we are not sure how but we succeeded :)

So E is at nursery, my nursery in my room but I am not allowed to be in with him so I float in other rooms, E is still having 2 naps a day but one nursery staff in particular will not put a down in the morning which results in him falling asleep during his lunch and having a rubbish nap and of course not eating properly grrrrr!!

Purple, it's worth asking your GP what it is. Mine was borderline but gp prescribed them anyway. The shaky-ness could also just be sheer exhaustion. Make sure you are eating enough!

Tummy time = screaming time here. You are meant to do it from the start but remember lying on your lap or on you tummy/chest all count. My HV rolled her eyes when I asked about it. (In a "yet another thing to stress new mums out way" - naughty hv)
DD was pushing off me from very early and holding her head well from an early age. But hated true lying on the floor tummy time. Has only in the past couple of weeks not cried straight away. But she rolls onto her front then cries cos she stuck there

oh wil that's funny. sorry we had our own poo-escape when we put little fudge in the bath one time. All I could hear was OH "she's pooing in the bath, what do I do" hilarious

la I know how you feel. It's scary thinking "what if it happens again". I was so scared to hold my baby after the accident. Evem now im a bit wary. Better but super cautious.

Try to remember he is fine. Keep going with the med for a bit longer, just to make sure it's working or not. Be kind to yourself and take all your mum's help. I've never heard of that condition either!

dulcet thanks for the welcome

Uh oh pixie hope you feel better soon

Need to go. Wee one having a moment. Will check back later. Have a good Saturday folks

Yuk pixie - Hope you feel better soon! Better out than in as they say I'm not good with vom either. I had killer nausea in first trimester but luckily was never actually sick. Dreading when minipopz get to the age where he's bringing bugs home from nursery/ school....

Laying on you, being in the sling, sitting up in your lap all count as tummy time. Most newborns hate it - we didn't really bother with it til minip was about 12 weeks old and he started to lift his own head. I wouldn't worry. It is just another stick to beat new Mum's with I think! Unless your baby spends 23 hours a day laid in a moses basket, I don't think scheduled tt is necessary.

La lovie I'm not surprised you're struggling. You do what's right for you and B.

We are using TT bottles and didn't know about the vent! Thanks for the tip.
He does lie on his front on me and push back. He also holds his head up if he's sitting for a wee while. I'll not worry too much about tummy time.

It seems there's a drama every day here at the moment. Last night my lochia changed into running down my leg type. I've phoned the MW and she's not concerned.

Last night E slept for 5 hours...IN A ROW! My god that sleep was awesome. She went from 1.30am all the way to 6.30am. I still felt like death when she woke me up this morning, but now I'm up and about I feel like a new woman!

pixie I'm having the exact same problem re super heavy af. I'm actually starting to get a bit worried because I can leak through a super plus tampon in about an hour (sorry tmi!) Plus it can go on for up to a week too. I'm going to go to the doctors and ask to go back on the pill so i'm going to mention it to them and see if it's normal.
Sorry about the poo situation. Hope you feel better soon! Doesn't sound nice at all.

wil! Hello! I was thinking about you and hoping you were OK. at poo-gate! Blimey, they're both keeping you on your toes!

la I'm so sorry you're feeling this way. You've been through a really traumatic experience, so it's no wonder you're feeling the effects of it. I know it's a cliché, but time really does make it more bearable. I've never heard of that condition before, so can't help more with that I'm afraid. Massive hugs xx

E hated tummy time too - screamed blue murder if we put her on her tummy. The hv got a bit arsey with me when she asked if we were doing tummy time and I said no because E hates it I started putting her on her tummy again at about 13 weeks or so and she suddenly loved it! Wants to be on her tum all day long now. She holds her head up brilliantly and is starting to get her knees underneath her too. Nothing wrong with her development at all. I hate all these "rules" that are used to beat new mums with

I woke up fine this morning and I didn't shit myself last night either which is a bonus. I had a temperature though and now I feel good. God knows what's going on! Personally I think I'm just severely run down.
Moo that's what's happening with me with tampons too- I'm having to wear a towel as well. It's awful isn't it!
Congrats on the 5 hours sleep though!

Good news on not shitting yourself.

Try propping up on a cushion for tummy time. I think most babies hate it until they're a bit more mobile though. I couldn't keep C on her back if I tried now.

I've never heard of that La, what is it?

Hi to new people, I seem to have missed loads.

Hi all, just dropping in to say a tentative hello. I've not been on mumsnet since being hospitalised 3 weeks ago and since then MelbaToast arrived last week- story was up on the fb page the other day so I won't repeat it all. She's here and safe and well, but 6 weeks early so still in SCBU whilst she grows and learns to feed. It's a slow process and I just can't wait to get her home now. DH and I are both staying here with her so we can be involved in all her care, nappies etc and I can start to bf (as much as she can manage) which is brill. But I'm going stir crazy being stuck here! I can't wait to get into our new normality (ie getting home and settled as a family of 3) rather than stuck in limbo like we are at the moment.
So anyway, just thought seeing as I have all this time on my hands at the moment I'd find the grads grads Fred and say hello!

Yay toast! Glad things are going well, you've had a rough old time. If you need anything or just some company then just message me. Not sure what support you have here but I'm a 20min walk from the hospital and happy to help.

What an adventure wil! Sounds like you have some good reactions there - is sofa recovered?!

Great news on the 5hrs mini. Hope it's the start of something new. Then tell us how you did it!

Keep your legs crossed pixie, just in case!

Hi Toast, you're sounding super positive which is great. Hope little melba can make it home soon. Do they have any idea about timescales?

I do have good reactions Dulcet. One of my proudest moments was catching a full pint upright as it came flying off the end of a table obviously not achieved much in life.

Was thinking about staying up for an hour for once but as the rugby world cup seems to have overtaken my television think I may as well go to bed.

Oh and sofa is leather thank god.

Hello Toast!

Viroids with reflux experience, can you help? MiniSnap's weight gain continuing to drop and we're on a 'little and often' feeding routine as he is taking such tiny amounts and so distressed if we try to get him to take more. GP has prescribed Aptamil Pepti 1 as it is easier to digest. Has anyone used this? It seems very thin - did you have to add extra thickener to it (currently using Carobel but not sure how much to use).

I've been put in touch with a speech and language therapist who specialises in babies and feeding (I'm a speechie too) and she is hopefully going to come and watch MiniSnap feed. I can't wait as I'm so desperate to speak to someone who knows what they're talking about and can't take much more of this feeding stress.

Hi Toast! Congratulations on tinytoast Glad you're getting to be as involved as possible, must make things a bit easier. Hope it won't be a long stay on scbu for you all.

Pretty cool that you're so close by Dulcet! Mini JSers meet!!

Hooray for not shitting yourself pix Always a good night!

I really want to set fire to the Wonder Weeks app and then chuck it in the fucking sea. Every leap its like I'm presented with a different baby! This week's new thing is apparently HATING the car seat. All car journeys are now accompanied by a chorus of screaming.... The pram and sling are also out of favour. So basically anything I've ever used to settle him in then. Excellent.

Welcome Toast, glad things are going well

Hurray to not shitting pants

My issue seems to have stopped thank god. I can live without that!

Oh Popz I feel your pain, micro is not a fan of the carseat. Although she is much better in the buggy than she used to be. Her whole life is one long leap I think.

Snap I don't know about the milk. I'd be inclined to use same amount and phone the dietician on Monday if you have one. What a worry for you. If it's any consolation my mum said my sister wouldn't eat as a baby and only weighed a stone when she turned one. She was fine though.

Are you a children's SALT? Totally going to start bugging you for information

Micro is up for a feed already. Wouldn't settle with MrWil. Been up for a bloody hour and had only gone to bed two hours previously. When when when will she ever bloody sleep?

Thanks for the welcome! Madam had a meltdown last night after a pretty good day and just refused to settle from about 11ish until about 2 ish, and scared me by suddenly screaming as if in real pain, with that high pitched terrifying note in the cry. Think it was just bad wind and very sudden but not nice.
Hirer a stretchy ring sling yesterday from the library....will see how we get on. Asked for the most idiot proof one that they had, on the grounds of completely lacking any sense of spatial ability, and that was her suggestion, so hoping that madam takes to it......

Welcome toast I hope little
Melba is doing well and you will all be home soon

rpopz say it isn't so??? S will only sleep in the sling or the car seat during the day. If that stops I have no more ammo

snap I have no idea about thickeners, sorry. Could you give it a go and then see for next time unless this will result in a huge anxiety inducing meltdown, in which case do whatever is necessary to stop/prevent

Minipopz is a lot older though fleur .... I think it's because he lives to crawl right now, and anything that impedes that (dressing/ undressing/ nappy changes/ seats/ sleep....) is like, the end of the world... Hopefully it'll pass. Hopefully

We're going to a christening today! Its going to be stressful i fear!!