Just Mumming 8 - the one with the fire crawlers, wind machines and the Health Visitor revolt

[WilHarlot]

Add your stats Viroids (or don't bother). I feel like there's something I'm supposed to write here but don't know what it is...

Mountain she's maybe just suckling/comforting. If she doesn't have whole nipple in mouth (where they do the wide big mouth latch on) then she's probably just hanging out on mummy. Some babies are more sucky than others and that's why some mums choose to give dummies to bf babies so that they can be put down without the screaming! I use one because B is very food focussed and would permanently camp out on mummy if he could (I do let him do a lot for cuddles though because he loves it and it makes him happy!)

Check whether she has whole nipple in mouth and if she is rhythmically sucking. If not then you can gently break latch with your little finger. If she won't settle off boob then offering something to suckle can help but that's your choice to make as they recommend not using dummies when in early bf. (It's never harmed B in terms of latching though)

Cluster feeding is normal but generally they would be actually feeding not just comforting

B is sleeping on my lap, wee angel. Honestly I've never felt more helpless in my life as I felt today seeing my baby not breathing. Horrific.

Pixie sod the cleaning. Gin!

Popz sorry your wee one is being a grizzler! Hopefully it's not a long leap?

Mils! Mine is nice but very old school and likes to 'pass comment' which is why I love that she's in Scotland and I'm in South East of England :)

Oh god la that's so awful! I'm pleased that you are both ok

Well we are firmly in the grip of leap 2 ( I downloaded the app out of sheer frustration!) S is barely sleeping. He only wants to be on the boob (more for comfort than food) and is generally just unsettled.

So, so tired.

My house is a shithole too pixie I am going to go for a long walk and will grab a coffee and huge piece of cake with some of the nct ladies - we arranged at 3am, clearly we are all going through the same thing

So sorry to hear about B, La, what a terrifying experience to go through. God, these little people cause us so much stress. Hope you're back home and settled again soon. Big hugs.

Has he had vaccinations yet fleur? It's such hard work isn't it? B is gorgeous but when they are being demanding it is exhausting

Managed finally to feed him this morning. He's been coughing lots then screaming but he's asleep now

I didn't mention that when I ran into street my boob was still out

at boob-gate la - I worry I will do that one day I left the house in my slippers the other day

Glad B is feeding again. Have you done a baby first aid course? I'm tempted.

Jabs are next week, S had a cold and so they were pushed back a week. Dreading them.

Popz how old is MiniPopz? Tantrums are so wearing. The only thing you can do is grit your teeth and try to be consistent in your response. P has tantrums over the smallest things at the moment ( he's three). Sometimes I think his own behaviour frightens him and he needs to be held until he calms down. I'm so excited that you're going to train as a bf support worker - a voice of sanity and experience in a crazy world of duff advice!

popz thanks for the welcome, and aoery to hear your little one is being a monkey, my eldest dd did the same around 8/9 months I'm not sure how old your little one is? It didn't last long a couple of weeks at most then I went back to work and she snapped out of it thank god but I remember the feeling well. Hope it isn't a long phase for you either!

la that sounds absolutely horifgic you must have been beside yourself, thank God for the level headed lady passing by.. But having your boob out did make me smile (only because I know B is ok)

Sorry to hear some are having feeding/sleeping issues this raising kids lark is hard bloody work isn't it!

I do apologise for the typos above M is trying to steal my phone as I type, I think she is about to eat it.. Blooming teething

Oh la you poor love. How terrifying!

So our 3 hourly night time routine is now BF for 10-20 mins, go make a bottle, give him the bottle, change his bum, try to get rid of hiccups - usually by holding vertical for a few minutes and giving a bit more milk. Then he falls asleep again.

Surely I shouldn't be doing all this when DH is off work?
Should I be doing it all when he's back at work?
Hopefully the formula will go in a week or 2.
Opinions please

la that is terrifying, thank God that lady was there. Hope you're ok.

fleur I highly highly recommend all new mums and dads (and everyone in the world) do first aid courses

She is latching fully on, just keeps falling asleep!! I have tried her with a dummy which works for about 10mins (although that's a good 10mins! )

purple in a word - no. Your DH should be doing his bit especially whilst off work. As much as I slate my DH he was amazing during his paternity leave.

Remember you are still recovering too, it took me at least 4 weeks to start feeling normal again. Don't rush into too much.

Sorry chook I forgot to welcome you. Hello!

Meeting nct ladies. They are always, always extremely late I am always on time which means S is usually ready to boob/ scream by the time the rest get here.

Your DH should be doing everything except the feeding, Purple! I don't think I changed a nappy in the first three weeks. Pregnancy is exhausting, childbirth is exhausting and you've had major surgery. He needs to look after you.

Definitely get your dh to pull his weight purple, this is perfect time for him to bond with baby and learn his own ways of doing things with him, such as how to soothe him without boobs!

Fleur how annoying - I'm always early so end up leaving early because B is overtired

I have done first aid course but was due a refresher when pg and the course was cancelled. I actually signed up me and dh for new course yesterday morning before all this happened. frustratingly though even though I knew what to do it just exited my brain when I saw him not breathing. I just panicked!!!

Still waiting to see doctors. Hopefully home today, mum is coming to stay to give me some support.

Purple I would have thought your supply will build up the more you feed. Keep plonking him on there every time he looks hungry and let him work away at it. Hiccups - exactly as you're doing hold upright or feed them out. They don't seem to bother babies I think they bother us more!

Can't remember what anyone else says..

When MiniSnap was born, there was the usual to-ing and fro-ing overnight with new mothers and babies arriving on the ward. In the morning I heard the MW go into the bay opposite and say in a shocked voice, 'YOU'VE just had a baby!' She had found the mother holding her newborn of a few hours slumped in the chair whilst her partner slept on the bed!

I know some DPs on here have been a bit insensitive at points, but none has reached that level I'm sure!

Oh and purple one way to cut your night routine is to only change nappy at night if poo. Disposable nappies are designed to wick away moisture so they should be ok for the night period. Nappy rash comes when poo and wee mix

God I'd go mental! My dh was fantastic - he has changed every nappy when he's home. I didn't do any fir first two weeks

He's full on dad during the day. I really have no complaints. He is just a bit precious about his sleep. I've had shite sleep for months so he's a bit unused to it. I will get him to get the bottle and do the nappy. He poos on every feed unfortunately.
We've only been downstairs half an hour and the washer is on, he's washed up and the steriliser is on.

Panicking completely normal la I certainly can't say I wouldn't. Plus passing lady would have been able to hit him harder as not emotionally attached. You did the best thing and got help asap.

Fuck la! You must have been terrified. So so glad he's ok x
Had a good night last night, she slept from 6:30-5:10 then after a bottle and a chat to her Ewan sheep she went back ff till 7:15. Had to go to rhyme time which is usually at nap time for her (10:30) so thought I'd leave the house earlier, so she could kip in the pram...
She had other ideas.
For the first time ever she has missed out her morning nap. And she wasn't even tired! Fell asleep n the way home so I've stealth transferred her to cot, except I wasn't so stealthy, took her jacket off and everything..
Slept right through it, must be knackered.

Do they go to one nap at 9 months?

popz leap 6 was a sodding nightmare, lasted the full 5-6 weeks here..eurghhh the tantrums.
Sympathies and gin sista!

Ffs my post didn't post last night. The gist of it was saying how completely terrifying that sounds la. I would have done exactly what you did. So glad he's OK x

Sorry about tantruming popz. Those leaps don't get any easier then?! Leap 4 was a bastard!

purple if you can get dh to do a night feed, do. The extra sleep will help you recover. I hear you.on the dh being precious about sleep though! My dh hasn't done a night feed since E was tiny (maybe about 3 months now I reckon). She still gets up about every 3 hours for a feed. As we're formula feeding, you'd think dh might take the odd feed to give me a bit more sleep, but nope! I don't mind too much as I've gotten used to it now but he complains about being tired all the time! pisses me right off!

Yay for good sleeping min!

Fuck, La! Thank goodness for kind ladies in the street! So glad he's ok. That one's going to be a trouble maker Hope you're getting some rest too, you must be exhausted with the shock and spending another night in hospital xx

All sounds normal mountain! (Sorry!) Boob can be more about comfort at that age than food. But the comfort sucking will be stimulating your milk supply to ramp up. Get a thermal mug, packet of biscuits and some box sets and get comfy on the sofa or in bed! It's hard work when they want boob all the time and refuse to be put down but it doesn't last long....

Minipopz is 8.5 months. He's generally quite good natured but he is really REALLY not a fan of being dressed/ undressed/ having his nappy changed/ naps right now! He just wants to crawl or stand ALL DAY LONG. I actually miss the cuddley clusterfeedy days - no way can I pin him down long enough to cuddle these days!

Thanks for the gin Min! Probably shouldn't be drinking on these antibiotics but fudge it....

Wil is quiet - are you lurking??

Is he on paternity leave purple? No place for subtlety in this situation I found.... Just dump the baby on him and leave the country!

Sorry to break it to you mini but they seem to get worse! Though actually, I didn't really notice leap 5 so maybe he's just making up for it with this one!

Sorry to miss anyone - catching up in dribs and drabs x

Thanks popz so long as I know it's normal I feel ok about it! Oh and you should be fine having a gin on antibiotics :)

So glad he's ok La that must have been terrifying. My HV did a basic bit of training for me on what to do if baby chokes but she said first thing I should do is call 999 because I won't remember a thing she said if I'm in that situation and they'll talk you through what to do over the phone while you wait for help.

No chance Pixie! If it wasn't for the whole menopause thing I would be pushing for another 14 year gap as that seems just about right

We had a go at sling swing today which was like a dance class with babies in slings - quite good fun! I can't seem to break her habit of catnapping though - any advice would be welcome. She dropped off earlier while her big bro was holding her so I transferred her to the the crib without waking. Success. She only slept for 20mins though, wouldn't settle in her crib and grizzled and screamed until we left the house and promptly fell asleep in the car. I've spent the last hour sat in the car outside the music place (son is having a lesson) as she's been asleep. Why can't she do that at home?? She had about 30mins in her crib this morning. I did a frantic run around the house putting washing in, pegging out, sorting clean clothes and putting them away, dishes washed, pump and dummies in the steriliser, tidy up and then as I put the kettle on for a cuppa she woke up! Should I try shush patting to get her to go back to sleep? She is usually asleep again within an hour or two so it's not like she's waking up fully refreshed. Her longest sleeps are on me but that's not helping me to get anything done.