Just Mumming 8 - the one with the fire crawlers, wind machines and the Health Visitor revolt

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Add your stats Viroids (or don't bother). I feel like there's something I'm supposed to write here but don't know what it is...

Oh and nervous about cats. Cat 1 jumped up ONTO B the other day! I think he doesn't register he's a thing at all! Another reason I'm nervous about putting him upstairs. But I really think it's better for him

Cat 2 is coming around to B abc has no longer left home. He sits in same room now, hooray!

Sounds like you're doing great mountain They take a while to figure out the whole day time night time thing so don't feel like you have to be doing stuff to make it happen. It'll come, just go with the flow. Nip soreness is definitely most likely that you're not used to them being sucked 23 hours a day Lansinoh! Glad the poo was ok.... Must say, mine wasn't as bad as I expected.

Glad you got to grips with the caboo La! There's definitely a knack to it. I really didn't like ours - but I've learnt so much more about slings since then, I'd probably not mind using it next time.

Think nip shields are for pain but also can make latching easier if babies are used to using bottle? HVs don't like them is all I know....

Desperately waiting for the app here too!!

Hello is this thread for anyone? The thread for my post natal month seems to have gone vv quiet. Think they all on fb. But I don't do fb.

Anyway
Fudge = 35yo
To a gorgeous DD 13wo

Who is currently hiccuping after taking her 4th bottle about 2hours early. And after sleeping hunners whilst her papa looked after her never sleeps more than 30mins at most for me is trying to tell me a story in between the hiccups.

Actually think she's talking to her muslin. Her new bff

Welcome fudge! All welcome here.

I am getting on well with the caboo - it's great round the house and usually S sleeps in it but today, he just screamed and screamed. Poor boy.

I hate that it's raining and I can't take him out for a walk either, some fresh air would do us both good

fudge I am not sure how FF works - what do you do if your LO wants more than is allowed? At least with BF you just keep feeding them...

Hi fudge! You're very welcome! Congratulations on your wee one :)

Fleur do you have a rain cover on buggy? I take B out with ours covered and he doesn't seem to care about the rain, but it gives him some fresh air.

Mountain - my first poo was horrific after CS and I couldn't feel myself wee. It would just fall out. Very odd.

Thanks fleur

Well we feed on demand tbh, a rough routine of a bottle every three hours but she is gradually moving up from 5oz to 6oz. Going through a phase of some days not finishing her bottle v draining it dry!

It's been raining here too. I bought myself a waterproof jacket at weekend. Need waterproof shoes/boots so we can get out no matter the weather. As sometimes the walk is my only time for peace & quiet as DD will sleep in pram.

If DD isn't crying from teething, wanting food, flipped onto tummy and can't roll back then she's crying as she is tired but refuses to sleep. Seems constant. So a walk is necessary. Else I'm crying too!!

I just thought nipple shields might help with crap latch. I don't know anything about them. I just bought some. I didn't manage to use them yet as I pumped for an hour then he got angry. He did take the 30mls I pumped though so I feel a bit better.

I'm going to the midwife tomorrow after photo shoot. I've also found the local LLL groups, although they aren't that close. I'll see how we go tomorrow, and if need be will drive 20+ miles for more help

My recovery is definitely on the up and B is fab. I need to stop beating myself up over the feeding. He's happy and thriving and whilst I might have got things wrong, I am doing my best.

Sorry my posts are very me me me.

Welcome Fudge

Yeah, I have a raincover - but what about meeeee? I don't have the capability to push the pram and hold an umbrella.

I guess I could wear my waterproof?

Just isn't that appealing.

I was going to go to the high Street after seeing midwife today, but it started raining and I chickened out for the same reason fleur she might be safely tented inside the pram but I didn't want to get wet!

la I am in awe of you and purple (and others) the idea of doing this with a major abdo wound! The reason I was able to get online to quickly was that thanks to my work WiFi I could get on whilst in hospital and I was bed bound for 2 days so needed to!

Plus I knew that you guys were my best source of information!

Oh and re cats la I also have the fear.. Lily tried to do her usual jump on bed walk up to my face earlier, but mini m was feeding and she almost just walked over her! Shes been better than I thought she would but still scary -- although I was also really worried she would just run away and feel pushed out! Trying to give her special love when dh has mini m

Tell me to bugger off if you want purple - but if you're not in pain, I would probably hold off with the nipple shields. I suspect they will complicate the issue rather than help. I know a few mum's who have used them for sore nips and struggled to get baby to latch without them after they were no longer needed. Really sorry you're still struggling - will he not latch on at all? Do you have a bf support worker or can you phone La Leche League to see if there's anyone local? Mws don't always know a lot about bf. I know you really want to give it your best shot.

Welcome Fudge x

Oh yeah - I totally had B all wrapped up securely with his raincover today, started off down the street and realised I didn't have a raincoat myself! Need to buy a raincoat...

purple I really hope that you get the support you deserve - you're doing great and trying to work out your little individual of a baby is the hardest thing! But you'll get there :) I've no experience with shields at all so not sure how to use them to help the baby latch. The best thing I could recommend is for you to speak to LLL (which you are already doing!) and speak to a lactation consultant if there's a local one. Mine sorted me out completely and was just such a massive help!

mountain kudos for already attempting to leave the house! Took us a few days!

Can I have a grads grads opinion please from the long-term mummies?

I've been doing a bedtime routine with B, which hasn't been massively successful so far, and I think it's because we were starting too late. Normally at 7pm I'd feed 1 boob, bath him, feed other boob, then attempt story (normally he'd scream though) and put him down - which takes a while and it would be 8:30 before he's finally asleep - so he's not getting a good enough sleep before the big 10pm feed and he has snacked lots in the meantime, so doesn't feed properly at 10pm.

So tonight we brought it forward to 6. Feed 1 boob, bath, other boob, story, bed. Still struggling because by time he's had 1 boob he's sleepy, so by the time he's out of the bath he is overtired and screamy and won't take second boob.

Should I just bath first, then do complete feed rather than 1 before and 1 after? We're trying to get him in habit of having a really good sleep between 6 and 10, so that then at 10 I can give him his big dream feed to get him ready for the night. The idea is that eventually we'll drop 10pm feed and he'll go to bed at 7-ish for the night after the bath.

We do all the things we're meant to - making house quiet and dark from bath onwards to show him it's night. But because he's got to then come back down to sit in living room with us it's a bit rubbish because it's noisy and flashy from the tv. That's why I'm looking to start putting him upstairs in snuzpod in our room from bath time. He'd only be on his own up there from 7 until I go to bed (9 ish), with monitor on and us checking regularly.

To me I've just read this back and it seems garbled! Apologies.

Nipple shield = waste of time

My nips aren't that shape for a start . I just want him to latch. I'm starting with MW as she's nearest. LLL are 25 miles away and we'll go on weds if we need to. I need help in person. I've looked at YouTube etc

I am wondering now if he has silent reflux as he has hiccups loads and goes rigid and screams when you lie him flat. So that's another reason for MW seeing him. Although it probably needs GP to prescribe something.
My nephew has it and has Gaviscon in every bottle.
It might not be that but I don't think he should be screaming like he is. I tried to latch again just now when he was perfectly calm and had no wind. He screamed again as soon as horizontal

Id do bath first but that's only cause r gets very overstimulated fast so stories are done before we even go upstairs, if I do it in her room it invigorates her, then she's a mare.
We do :
6/6:15- count the stairs up, say goodnight to my dad in the picture, bath with either one of us as now she likes to stand in the bath Grrr Btw.
Bum change with nursery rhymes (husband won't sing)
Whoever night is off kisses r and tells her good night and we love you
Bottle (getting less and less but I don't think she'll give this one up)
And put down straight away, if she doesn't turn into side we do it and cuddle her sleepytot in.
Its very quick (used to be an hour til we cottoned on that she was squirming because she wanted to be put down and not rocked). Usually done in about 5-10 mins.

However, she does wake at night for milk and a chat!

Right, can I just say I love my child but thank fuck she's in bed.
Apparently after leap 6 they have the ability to really express their emotions... Too damn right she does.
You'd think I was after her leg the way she wails when it's nappy time.

Please let this be a phrase

From P being little (12 weeks) she's had the bath, bedtime story, milk and bed. It's important that the last part (milk) is done with as dark a room as you can manage with little to no communication as that gets them stimulated. As she's gotten older it's more CBeebies bedtime hour- 7pm upstairs, runs around squealing with nappy half off, chase her into the bathroom, ST takes over and coaxes her into the bath- 10 minutes of screaming whilst ST fights to brush teeth, wash bits, wipe face etc- warm milk in bedroom still wrapped in towel- pyjamas on- quick cuddle- given bedtime toy and put in cot- throw duvet over- run out of bedroom and escape downstairs for brew, coffee, rum, bottle of wine.
Ps routine hasn't changed one iota since R has arrived. He just slots in 10 mins earlier so he misses a bit of the bedtime story on CBeebies- usually screams the place down- has his bath still screaming- gets dressed still screaming- bottle gets shoved in gob still screaming- once placed in bed and wrapped up with plenty of blankets, shove dummy in and he goes off. Between the hour of 7pm and 8pm if anyone dares knock on the door or the phone rings all hell breaks lose! It is the busiest hour of the whole day!

I am also trying this la so glad you asked.

I regularly use the monitor as I have a stupid townhouse which makes it hard to always be on the same floor as S.

Currently on boob 1 - feeding a snotty baby is hardwork.

Thank you pixie and min!

So perhaps feed after bath is best option and I'll start to look at us putting him upstairs.

Fleur don't knock it - we live in a poky modern terrace bleurgh

Purple - could be tiredness, that's another option. Or still wind. My baby can be winded multiple times and still have wind!

Does sound quite like reflux. Hope you can get sorted.

Tbh La - I think you're a hero for even attempting a routine already! Just trial and error I guess, you'll get there

Bloody hell - just google 'when to put baby upstairs' - don't do it viroids! I'm now terrified about SIDS risk and shitting myself about putting B upstairs. Apparently the noise of people around stops them going into deep sleep when SIDS is then a risk.

God - there are so many different bits of advice and rules to follow now. I hate having him in the lounge with us - it's completely stressful wondering when he's going to wake up and trying to eat ice cream without the spoon clinking on the bowl. Put me right off me Vienetta it did!

Aw purple that reflux/trapped wind/overtired cry is the pits.my dd has had terrible trapped wind/reflux

Things we've tried:

Try propping one end of cot/basket. You can get wedges but we used a folded up towel under moses basket. Or books under one end of cot.
A wee bit of baby massage might help as well. Although tbh it hasn't helped my dd. infacol or gripe water.
We keep DD as upright as possible for at least 20mins as well.

Currently using dentinox colic drops. Some impressive burps happening

La we do bath @half 7 then bottle and bed. We do want to read a book as well but DD wants her bottle as soon as we put her grow bag on. And then pretty much falls asleep as we try to burp her cutest thing ever at this point so tonight I read her book to her whilst OH fed her.

(I really really struggle to get DD to sleep during the day but now I'm thinking I should have a wee routine of nappy change, back in grow bag, bottle then hopefully a sleep!! Hmmmm will report back if I'm successful)

But yy to the advice. It's a minefield out there! Trust your instincts I say

Oh La!!

He just latched, in a more sitting position with no screaming. Didn't get loads in him but maybe we can salvage this

Purple I wonder if biological nursing might help with positioning as it would have him on his front in a more upright position. There's a quick 'how to' here and loads more info if you google it. Worth a try?

La I gave up on evening baths altogether! I thought she hated baths full stop but she actually enjoys one in the morning or afternoon. Bedtime routine is nappy change (usually involves a song or nursery rhyme or two), into sleep suit and sleep bag, turn on musical mobile thingy and feed her on my bed lying down (lights low - I have a dimmer). Pop dummy in once she's finished with boob and attempt transfer into crib.

She crawled earlier only about a foot or so but was still a surprise. She is still dragging her tummy on the floor but has worked out how to use her arms instead of her face as she had been doing. Aldi baby event starts Thursday - I'm buying all the stair gates! And all the long sleeved bibs - absolute necessity for weaning. She still isn't sleeping much though. I've been tearful today as I've been so tired. At least I can lie in tomorrow.....