Just Mumming Thread 7 - the grads grads cope with walking, own rooms and have little time for shagging

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New thread! Roll call...

Yes, sorry, didn't mean to bang on about PND! Hopefully no-one will need it but there is lots of support out there if you do.

Wil, yes DS1 had reflux. Baby Gaviscon helped quite a lot though it did bung him up.

Hope everyone's had a better day.

I never said hi snap! Hi!

Ah you'll be an old pro at dealing with it then Snap. You can get a thickener called Caribel (might not be spelled like that) which doesn't cause constipation. May be worth asking about instead of the gaviscon?

Sounds like he's making up for lost time La

Minipopz went down for a "nap" at 6 and he's still asleep now..... I'm screwed, aren't I!?

Treat it as his bedtime popz, he may be telling you he needs to go to bed earlier.. Though be warned thru wake up early.
We can't keep R awake past 7 at a push and she's all about the 5;30/6 am wake.

We had to lower the cot today. She's been using us as a tool for standing these past few weeks and today worked out she can use anything, thankfully we were in her room with her when she set her sights on the cot bars.
She also goes backwards, and I shouldn't laugh but is funny watching her hey annoyed when she moved away from the thing she wanted instead of towards it...

Hi Snap

I agree with Wil that PND will get worse if not nipped in the bud straight away. I walked that questionnaire that the HV gave me but my mood changes on a daily basis. That day was an ok day, yesterday was a really bad day. It helped that I went to my best friends house and cried my eyes out and drank a glass of wine.
Me and OH had a bit of a tiff and he demanded that I get out of the house for a couple of hours without him and the kids. It worked, I felt lots better and surprisingly because I've not been stressed out today neither has R. In fact this has been the best day he's had since being born! He's slept and chilled out all day, barely crying at all and it's been a pleasure spending time with him.
It is hard to pin down whether it is just feeling shit for a day or if you feel shit every day.

Hi viroids it's me creeping back and pretending I didn't fall off the planet again... A starts pre-school in September and E is rolling, she's also finding ways to entertain herself that don't involve my boobs so I'm starting to feel a bit more with it than I was for a while! Now she's rolling she's sleeping on her front so she's sometimes sleeping in the cot and I'm no longer sleeping on the floor.

la what a scary time you’ve had, glad it sounds like you and B could be out soon

wil A has a grow clock it worked for a while but she’s started ignoring it and has gone back to shooting “Daddy om nom” at the top of her lungs regardless of whether she’s hungry or not. I have no advice I’m afraid :(

fleur it sounds like you’re having an absolutely awful time of things, I think a lot of men just don’t get it, my husband thinks I have cabin fever and just need to take the girls out more in the week, he has no clue how much effort it takes to get three of us clothed at once, let alone out of the house, or that I don’t have cabin fever, I’m just contemplating ways to kill him in his sleep because all he does when he gets home is play computer games. He actually had the audacity to tell me he’d done his jobs (mowing lawn, cleaning chickens) so he was going back to the computer if that was ok, when I was literally surrounded by piles of laundry, the bathrooms needed cleaning of all his bloody hair and there wan’t a single person cleaned or dressed in the house, to say I lit a fire under his arse is an understatement, shame he thinks his debt is repaid because he's cooked dinner stares daggers at the back of his computer game playing head

zy I don’t have time to express but we’re trying to get E to get used to bottles in case i find a job so she’s getting a bottle of formula every other night or so (generally when I have a cheeky drink) for the past few weeks and I’’ve not not noticed and issues with my supply, though I had katie price boobs the other day when I gave her formula all evening!

pixie and dulcet there’s no harm in speaking to your gp if you think you’ve got PND, I didn’t see my GP when things clearly weren’t right with me after A was born and I think it’s had a real impact on my ability to connect to her, I didn’t realise how much she feels like ’someone elses' until I had E.

He usually naps 6-6.30 and then goes to bed about 8ish. He's still asleep now so am hopeful he's down for the night at least!

Min - minipopz can only crawl backwards for some reason and he also walks backwards in his walker! Bless em

Good to hear from you Boo xx

Hi Boo! Nice to hear from you. I agree, it's hard getting everyone ready. So glad Mini will be going to nursery in the afternoon and not morning.

Ah the backwards crawl. It does frustrate them so. We haven't even managed to get up on knees yet though not worrying about that at all, oh no.

I made the mistake of picking morning sessions wil I was all "it will be fantastic, it will get us all up and ready in the mornings and we'll have a proper routine... this weekend we struggled to keep A in at least her underwear and DH answered to door to a startled delivery man in his boxers because i forgot to tell him there was a tesco order coming and E and I were snuggled up in bed...

E sort of commando shuffles and rolls but we're no where near crawling in any direction

Im late!
Mother of 4!
1&2 will be having birthdays on tuesday (6&4 yrs old!) 3rd is 2+1/2 baby is 6weeks+6days.
Not had a chance to read everything yet.
Hope your B is better la its not nice when they are unwell.
Anyone who thinks PND is lurking, don't ignore it, get seen by your GP. Its a terrible illness, but there is light at the end of the tunnel when you have the help you need. ( a close and dear friend has been/is suffering, she could hide it very well untill one day, Im so glad I was home that day to answer the phone and take her to hospital)
Right, ive got to tidy and clean house tomorrow, bake a cake and cup cakes. At least DD2 will be at nursery all day, only the other 3 to take care of

Hi La, hi Pixie.

La, brilliant news that your wee man is doing so well now. Hopefully you'll be back at home having snuggles on the sofa very soon. Pixie, great to hear you had a better day, getting out in the sunshine can make such a difference. I know what you mean about those questionnaires, I don't think they ever quite nail it for me.

Wil, thanks for the thickener advice. Does your baby have reflux? Will see how things are tomorrow, he seems a bit happier today after poomaggedon this morning, so could all be related to constipation.

Actually don't know how you do it Cym.

Snap my first had the pukey kind and was on gaviscon and my second the silent kind and was on ranitidine. But both allergic to dairy so I think that was the problem really. Have stopped giving the little one the medication now and she seems fine.

She woke up already . No clue what's up with her tonight.

Are you allergic to dairy wil? I'm guessing not.

It's true cym, no idea how you keep going with all those babies. You're a pro - baking cakes as well! I can't imagine having two at the moment!

Great news you aren't on the floor anymore boo. Probably feels a bit weird but it is good for you I am sure.

Sounds like a couple of hours break did you good pixie, is it something you can do regularly?

How did the night go after the unexpected nap popz?

Baby J found his thumb this weekend. Damn it!

Fed J, he poo'd a bit as I did it but then he fell asleep. Bad parent to just put him down? He will be up by 6am so I can change him then...

wil H is showing no inclination to crawl at all! So please don't worry, I think H is going to be a bum shuffler once she can sit up for longer, she tries to scoot herself off our knees all the time, but put her on her front and she looks around for a bit then complains lol. It could well be that micro may get around in a different way to crawling!, don't fret :)

I'm giving this child away.
She had us up at 1:30 to 4:30. The husband got pig sick of her and dumped hey in her cot crying and she cried herself to sleep.

Now she's wide a fucking wake and shouting.

Can't be bothered.

It's supposed to get easier.

It's not.

It's getting harder.

And I don't know what to do. She won't let me comfort her. Smiles at everyone willingly but I have to really work for one.
She climbs me when I hold her instead of just relaxing.
Squirms out of my arms.
She doesn't need me.

Of course she needs you Min. I think they smile at other people because it's something new to look at for a bit. The squirming and climbing is totally normal. Micro would do that unless you put a cartoon on. That's a shitty night, no idea what the crying is about but C was up three times instead of her normal once - and I really struggled to get her back to sleep after the half four wake up. Looks like they've been chatting again and arranging mayhem for us. Big hugs.

Well Dulcet, never thought I had a problem with dairy but to be honest my digestive system feels a lot better without it. So it definitely affects me in a similar way. I won't stay off it but I think I'll make an effort to have less.

Did you leave the nappy? Always a dilemma.

Oh and thumb is good Dulcet! Anything which helps them soothe themselves is a win in my book!

Morning all

Had a much better day with S yesterday but this prompted DH to suggest that I follow a routine in the sodding baby book he read. He even turned over the corner of the page with he routine on.

I may use it to wipe my arse

S is back to his usual self today and so I have made an appointment to see the Dr about possible silent reflux. My sister was with me last week and saw what S is like. She was speaking to a doctor friend of hers yesterday who said it could possibly be silent reflux.

Fingers crossed for some answers.

Sorry everyone seems to be having a crappy time of it at the moment.

min she does need you, I think they just get used to us being around more but you can guarantee she thinks the world of you.

fleur good luck for the docs!

Sorry also meant to say thanks zyla. I have the paranoia that she's not bearing weight on her legs because of her earlier problems. Which I am sure is total rubbish and I'm just being a big hypochondriac .

Min, she does need you. They react differently to other people because their reaction is different and exciting to them. Plonk her in the pram, go for a long walk. And then try to arrange someone to babysit whilst you go out and treat yourself (tea and cake, haircut, spa morning, go karting anything)
Its not easy being a mam, some days go fantasticly well, others are shite.

Morning!

Pixie - really glad you got a break, I think your dp is right that it's important to get out sometimes however it might make you feel guilty. The nurses here made me hand B over for half an hour last night, just so I could have half an hour without him on me. It meant I could sort myself out a bit and have something to eat and I felt so much better.

Hi boo waves!

Loving the crawling/walking backwards!

cym you are superwoman bows down reverently

dulcet the poo nappy debate is one I have regularly. B does it in stages, mostly during feed. Often I'll feed one boob then do nappy then give other boob. He'll sometimes poo a bit more during second boob and I am guilty of sticking him back down without changing, as he's all sleepy and doing nappy wakes him back up. I figure these nappies wick away moisture effectively so if it's only a little one then he'll be ok til next feed (in 3 hours).

min they are sent to try us and no more so than their mums - I think kids show worst sides to mum because it's more vulnerable and they feel safe, same as animals who try to hide their injuries/illness. Other people get the wary 'I'm fine!' treatment because they are strangers. You will get the smiles in time!

Sorry to all of you who had a shitty night!! Sounds like they are all being sent to try us!

Horrible night here too. Poor B - the antibiotics have kicked in and hurt his tummy so I had a ROARING child from 2pm yesterday all the way through to bedtime and through the night. We thought it was his arm canular at first hurting, but it was definitely his tummy. He was tensing it up and screaming blue murder. There was a very kind nurse who came and found me rocking him back and forward and sobbing. She took him from me, gave him paracetamol and sat with him til he went to sleep, whilst I managed to get a bit of sleep. So I had 3 hours last night - bliss. We ended up having to try a dummy to help him - it made a difference as it was something to bit down on when he was sore. It's so so upsetting seeing him in so much pain. Before we realised what it was I was getting so frustated and angry with him, because I was so tired. When the paracetamol kicked in he was my lovely sweet funny boy again and I felt like an absolute toad for having got annoyed!

He's had some more paracetamol and is currently out for the count in his hospital cot. We've got to wait for doctors rounds to find out his test results and if we're allowed to go home today.

Meanwhile my poor stitches, which had just been checked and signed off by midwife on friday, are now all red and sore - having been rubbed by me sitting in boiling hot hospital room in pants breastfeeding. The knicker elastic digs into where the stitches are and it's agony.

fleur I would also be telling him to shove his routine up his backside. Jeeeze. Why do people not realise that feeding on demand IS a routine, it's just set by baby rather than parents. B feeds every 3 hours without fail. Speaking of that he's just waking up...

..oh, I might have a few more minutes...

Hope it goes ok at the doctors! My dh keeps saying to me 'why don't you put breastmilk on your nipple before and after feeding, that's what the book suggests'. Yes it might be what 'the book' suggests, however right now I'm struggling even to remember to wipe my own fucking arse after peeing, let alone remembering to rub boob milk on my nipples. Additionally I don't much enjoy being roared at by an infant for taking too long to get boob out of bra, so I'm not about to prolong the process by nipple rubbing.

I did leave the nappy, glad I did too. Next feed was about 90mins later so changed him before that and there was barely anything in there so wouldn't have been worth the wake up.

He's done the biggest sick this morning though. Scared me. Came out like a fountain - wasted milk! He's a bit needy now too, think he feels sorry for himself. Asleep on my lap now.

Hope the doctors get round to you quickly la. Sounds like you've had some good care in there so far. Any chance DH can get some extra time off? Since he's lost some time with you all in hospital. Realise it's bit as easy as that.

You sound so low min, hopefully its better soon. Of course she needs you! It is easy for them to become used to you I suppose - you're very accessible all the time. Is she just awake over those hours or does she want something?

I don't know how possible it would be to put a routine on them at this age fleur. What book is he advocating? Good luck with the GP!