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LaLaLaaaa · 08/08/2015 04:11

New thread! Roll call...

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SnapdragonAzZ09 · 30/08/2015 18:44

Hope everyone's enjoying/ surviving the BH weekend. Bon courage to those being subjected to relentless sleep deprivation, it really is torture.

We have an opposite kind of a problem with MiniSnap. He's been described as a 'reluctant feeder' - instead of guzzling down bottles and piling on the pounds like most well-brought up formula fed babies, he takes half a feed and then just stops. Feeds can easily take an hour and I have to persevere as he is getting borderline what he needs and weight gain is slowly dropping off. Last night he went 9 hours between feeds, which may sound like heaven but is actually worrying, it's like he can't wake himself up. And us waking him up doesn't work either, he'll only take a tiny amount. HV thinks maybe he's still getting over the horrid time he had when he was born. It may seem strange but I read your cluster feeding, hungry baby stories with envy! I guess the grass is always greener...

Minion · 30/08/2015 19:06

snap
Another non milk drinker here. It's Sodding infuriating. Shit loads of formula wasted.
Feel your pain.
Well another shite night last night. Same old same old.
And today has hardly drank /ate anything but when I was preparing her lunch she was whinging cause she was being made to eat it and I wasn't quick enough?!?
In her temper she shouted mama! I heard it. Mil heard it.

I was over the moon.
Nothing since.
Probably shouldn't be willing her to say it as soon it will be mama mama mama mama til my ears bleed.
Cute tho.

SnapdragonAzZ09 · 30/08/2015 19:15

Min how old is MiniMin? Has she always been difficult to feed? MiniSnap has reflux but the Carobel has made quite a difference to his symptoms so I can't work out why he's so unenthusiastic about his milk. What does he want, caviar FFS?!

WilHarlot · 30/08/2015 19:39

That's cute Min.

How old is miniSnap now? What does the GP think? I can understand that must worry you. Micro fell down two centiles since birth and I used to think she ate like a sparrow. She eats a lot now though - although still weighs the same as a flea.

Minion · 30/08/2015 19:54

She's just gone 8 month snap and Weirdly had just a few days where she drained every bottle and ate shed loads. I assume she had some sort of growth spurt.
Gone back to normal now.
It started at 8 weeks for her. They asked reflux, milk allergy, no one told me maybe she just doesn't like it.
Which is what it is.
Loves food tho so I sneak it in there.
She's on the 50% so I've stopped caring and worrying what the formula tub says.
She's OK

SnapdragonAzZ09 · 30/08/2015 20:21

He's 8 weeks old, Wil, but the hard slog getting him to take enough from a bottle has been going on since about 3-4 weeks. We've another GP review in a couple of weeks. He's on 25th centile at the mo, so not too bad - his brother was very similar, tongue tie, reflux and reluctant to feed but he was/ is 9th centile so had less of a buffer. I'm sure he'll be fine but it's Hard going, especially with three year old P getting frustrated while I'm feeding for hours on end.

I did the same with P, Min, sneaked formula into all sorts of things to get him up to his minimum.

On a more positive note, been having a lovely weekend, makes such a difference having DP here instead of the backbreaking 12 hour days I have on my own with the boys in the week. And I have eaten a LOT of cake.

minimooo · 30/08/2015 22:03

snap that must be really worrying. I wish I had some advice, but not really had any experience of that before. Glad that the Carobel is working at least. He must be happier now that his reflux symptoms have calmed down.

Sorry she's gone back to crappy sleeping min. Hopefully she'll grow out of it soon. Must have been lovely to hear her say mama!

Hi tee! He could perhaps be starting the old 4-month sleep regression early? E started it early and it affected her daytime naps and nighttime sleeps really badly. She also suddenly found it really difficult to fall asleep and we noticed that it she doesn't just fall straight into a deep sleep anymore. She stays in a light sleep for a while we she first drops off. I read that at about that age their sleep cycle changes so that, instead of just going from awake to deep sleep, they start to sleep in proper adult cycles with light sleep, deep sleep, REM etc. I don't know if that's accurate but it seemed to make sense for E.

So the party was a complete nightmare. E cried in the car so I had to sing "she'll be coming round the mountain" for 20mins straight. Let me tell you, after 10mins you run out of things she'll be doing when she comes round the mountain. Then she screamed (and I mean SCREAMED) through the entire party. Bless her, it was just so noisy and overwhelming for her. I ended up walking her up and down the road outside to calm her down. We got in the car and fell straight to sleep. Poor little mite.

I did manage to eat my weight in cake though Grin

PixieChops · 30/08/2015 22:30

Sorry mini but I full on lolled and nearly woke up R laughing about your "coming round the mountain" sing a long. Aww Poor E though, first birthdays are a bit daunting, P acted differently at every single one she attended. At her own she'd given up giving a shit and mingled better than I did with her guests! Luckily she could walk so she just took herself off on her own and played with the other kids/ demanded attention off other adults/ ate gravel etc. I literally didn't see her for 2 hours.
Snap I can completely understand your concern. We however are at the complete other end and R is on the 98th for everything. I'm being told we need to stop feeding him so much but how the hell am I supposed to tell a 10 week old that they really should be on a diet and to stop feeling hungry. Hmm

Tee! How the hell are you? I feel like I've not seen you in ages.

La I saw your post on Facebook but I don't really have any helpful advice I'm afraid but to echo what other people have said you're doing a grand job!

I agree with everyone this phone app is a lid of cock wombles ball sacks

WilHarlot · 31/08/2015 07:51

Yeah I hate having to log in all the time.

Poor E Mini. MiniWil used to do that a lot. At least there was cake though.

RPopz · 31/08/2015 09:16

pixie I feel like you're getting really bad advice from your HV... why do you have to stop feeding R because he's 98th percentile?? Somebody has to be! Its a whole spectrum of normal, that's the whole point! Angry

cookielove · 31/08/2015 09:50

pixie in no way should you reduce the amount you are feeding him, that is terrible advice!!

I am on the mobile site as I never got on with the app, this is much easier to navigate and it keeps me signed in!

My friends baby is a slow slow slow drinker she would take hrs to take a bottle and wouldn't drain it she was a dot too! She did great on solids too still a teeny one though.

E is much better he seems to be on the tail end of his cold phew!!

RPopz · 31/08/2015 11:26

What's everyone doing for bank holiday?? It's pissing it down here. DH is at work. We've been up for hours... Bored now!

Fleurchamp · 31/08/2015 11:37

I am at my MIL's eating cake while she rocks S Grin

So grim and miserable out. DH is in a bad mood - last bank holiday before Christmas grump Sad

SnapdragonAzZ09 · 31/08/2015 12:25

It's been so wet for such a long time that all our washing smells musty. MiniSnap is asleep on me and his babygro smells of it. Poor mouldy baby.

I'm really surprised you've been told to reduce feeding, Pixie, surely a baby's appetite is what it is. Like Popz said, someone's got to be the biggest and someone's got to be the smallest (P is 2nd centile for height!). HV are full of crazy shit sometimes. One told my breastfeeding friend to stop feeding her baby so much because she was apparently putting on too much weight.

Mini, I sympathise with the car singing. You get louder and more desperate as they ratchet up the screaming and you all end up hot and hysterical. Fun times!

I think I will be mostly spending the BH staring at the bomb site that is our flat and wondering how I'm going to get it presentable for viewings in a few days' time - we put it up for sale this week, eek!

WilHarlot · 31/08/2015 13:25

It's the mobile site I'm on Cookie, I hate it.

I like your MIL Fleur, she sounds ace.

Aw that's like Micro Snap - 2nd centile for height and just below the 9th for weight. Makes her easier to carry anyway.

No bank holiday here so business as usual. Fx the little one sleeps for the next hour so I can do a quick blitz round before nursery pick up. Place is a jungle.

LaLaLaaaa · 31/08/2015 14:01

Hey y'all!

Dulcet - how the heck did your infection happen? Is that CS related? How are you feeling now?

I seem to be getting af - is that usual? It's only been 5 weeks since my CS. It's very light pink so I'm presuming it's early AF anyways.

I'm fascinated by the weight loss following birth - in the days after I had B I had only lost 1-2lb and felt cheated! He was nearly 10lb! Now that the swelling etc has gone down though it's been just over 2 stone. I'm still 1 stone over the weight I was before getting pregnant though (Magnums and Dairy Milk).

pixie everyone I know who's been to Canada says it's amazing. I'm dying to go because I'd love to see bears and whales in the wild (probably not why anyone chooses to move tehre though!). How come you need to stop feeling R so much? B is 98th ccentile too but everyone seems to think that's a good thing? He's certainly porky enough - obviously becacuse he's my child I think he's amazing but he really is starting to resemble a pig ever so slightly! Especially when kicking off and going red in the face.

popz crawling AND standing - wow! Have you nailed everything down ;)

snap that sounds frustrating - what is the HV suggesting you do to try to encourage him to feed better?

Definitey eat ALL the frigging cake!

min yaaaay for 'mama'!!! Did you have to wean mini earlier because she didn't like milk?

my sil was 'told off' by her paediatrician for not doing enough tummy time with my dn. Apparently they need to do 1-2 hours!!! Surely that's madness? Is that true?

mini boo to puking! That's happened to me before - for same reason, that there was obviously a bit of wind behind the feed which came up and brought feed with it. I now feed him with a towel over myself and bed! suggested by someone on here I think!

I'm starting to feel like me and B are getting to know each other slowly. It's still mind-numbingly frustrating at times but I'm trying to watch him for cues and work out what he wants - and also not get upset if he cries. It's so hard to get used to the idea that baby crying is language rather than the normal 'crying' definition of sad/upset. I've been so wound up about upsetting neighbours and my cats getting upset that I was letting it bother me too much.

Thanks so much for the suggestions on facebook. We watched him feeding and other behaviour last night and this morning and I think people are right that it's tiredness/frustration, linked to my fast let-down. He wants to comfort suckle and instead gets this massive gush of milk in his gob, so he pulls back and screams. I've started cuddling him instead when I think hes just tired and he starts to nod off. FEeding has been less fraught (not perfect, but better) and I'm feeling a bit happier.

His wind is a bit better now that I understand when and how to burp him. I get very frustrated though that he wakes himself up with the wind - does anyone else's babies do this? He's so difficult to get to sleep, so when he wakes up with a fart 20 mins later.... sigh Grin He definitely doesn't reach deep sleep for at least half an hour - he rarely sleeps longer than 40 mins during the day. I don't know if that's bad or not, but there's not a lot I can do about it either way. That must be why he's so crotchety feeding, he never gets a decent rest poor thing.

Sleep regression sounds shite from all your descriptions!

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LaLaLaaaa · 31/08/2015 14:08

My messages are always too long because I don't get time to come on here at the moment - eek! Little time-thief DS.

Just finishing off...

Bank holiday - what bank holiday? My dh works them because people like to go out drinking, so I'm on my own and he's taken the car too so I'm a bit stuck (live in middle of nowhere). We are chilling out though because the rest of the week we've got stuff every day. Ive got to get over my fear of going anywhere with him. I'll go places but maximum hour or two, as I find it hard to settle him back into routine afterwards.

I've been reading the baby whisperer - do any of you rate it? The E.A.S.Y. thing seems to make sense in principal but I'm damned if I can wake miniLa up when he's fallen asleep feeding - and why would you if you didn't have to? It's surely one of the most natural things for a baby to do? I would feel bad for him.

snap don't talk to me about washing - I had all our washing out on the line yesterday and asked dh to bring it in when I went up to bed with ds. He forgot and it got soaked overnight with rain, so I've had to re-spin it and it's now hanging depressingly all over my tiny house.

Speaking of HV saying crazy shit. I was advised to put a muslin over DS's head and swaddle his arms when feeding! I'd said that he sometimes pushes me with his fists and stares around rather than concentrating on feeding. I think blindfolding AND restraining my son whilst feeding might be a little extreme!!!

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LaLaLaaaa · 31/08/2015 14:11

Sorry - two last questions:

Do they poo less as they get older? MiniLa used to poo every feed. He's not gone at all today yet, except for a few wet fart imprints. There's definitely stuff going on because he keeps farting, but no poo nappy yet.

Do they sleep less too during day? I'm struggling to get him to sleep longer than 45 mins to an hour at a time.

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RPopz · 31/08/2015 14:56

Yes to both your questions La Smile Are you sure AF isn't lochia still? Mine stopped and started a couple of times before finally buggering off at about 7-8 weeks. It can come back if you have an active/ strenuous day. Your poor SIL - I'd be seriously impressed by anyone who managed 2 hours tummy time with a newborn! They'd need some good earplugs and a heart of stone I reckon....

Good work on the cake fleur! I'm trying to go a whole day without biscuits/ cake.... Shock

WilHarlot · 31/08/2015 17:40

Ha how's that going for you Popz? Can't remember the last time I did that.

I use white noise to help break the 40 minute sleep barrier La. I just leave it playing during the whole nap and it seems to work.

FML I have another boob lump.

RPopz · 31/08/2015 19:27

3 more hours and I'll have done the whole day! Grin Its not before time. I have a serious spare tyre going on to the point where I'm still not 100% certain I'm not upduffed Hmm

Have you changed anything recently wil? Seems weird to be getting blocked ducts all of a sudden.

WilHarlot · 31/08/2015 19:49

It seems to have coincided with weaning but other than that I'm not sure. Think I need to do that bra calculator thing on the 'Can I breastfeed in that' page as my bras definitely feel uncomfy.

Congratulations on your shit free day! Grin

RPopz · 31/08/2015 20:01

That does make sense I suppose, if she's taking less milk. I don't understand that bra calculator Confused

I think weaning coincides with my packing the weight on too so I guess miniP is taking less milk now.

purplewhale · 31/08/2015 20:17

Oooh found you all. Just place marking for now.
This time next week I'll be in hospital for my insulin drip.
Section is 1 week tomorrow - eeek!
I'm sure I'll be back for advice when Purplebaby arrives. I feel like I've been pregnant forever but at the same time I'm going to miss my bump.
I also really don't feel ready to be a parent but it's too late now Smile

SnapdragonAzZ09 · 31/08/2015 20:27

La the HV suggested letting him take his little half feeds but more often - this would mean about 12 - 14 bottle feeds a day!

Funnily enough, like MiniMin, he's suddenly done a bit better today so fingers crossed he'll have more energy to take a bit more milk.

La I liked the Baby Whisperer at first and then ended up hating it as it seemed to be advising all sorts of things which were counter-intuitive - like the sleep after feeding thing you mentioned. She also talks about feeding in demand creating a 'demanding baby' - of course babies are demanding,that's how they stay alive FFS. And the baby's 'circle of respect'. What a load of old bollocks. Maybe try the bits that make sense to you and ignore anything that you go Confused

That is the first time I have ever used an emoji in my life.