Just Mumming Thread 7 - the grads grads cope with walking, own rooms and have little time for shagging

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I've never heard of colic resulting in being up screaming from 4.30, it's usually an evening thing. I think I would go back to the doctor Fleur and ask for a paeds referral. There's no harm in getting a proper check over. My doctors were going to do one for me but I was pretty sure it was the dairy thing so didn't bother but I think you need some extra input. Sorry you're having such a tough time. The poor wee guy needs way more sleep than that too which is probably making him more upset. Something is going on if he's only sleeping for 7 hours a day.

Been up since five here. First baby, then toddler at 5.40 who then again woke baby. Both are wide awake .

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Fleur what you're describing sounds similar to what B is doing. Happens mostly in morning - starts to cry, pull up legs, look very sore and strain as if needing poo/fart. Screams. I was struggling to feed him because he was so rigid with the pain. Yesterday it was clear nothing was budging so we called HV. She said it was colic but I don't think he's crying enough for colic.

It sea more like trapped gas in stomach/bum.

I've started him on Dentinox and he seems less painful this morning, although he's still straining constantly. He strains in his sleep and wakes himself up

Anyone got any spare matchsticks?
This child will kill me. Sleep deprivation is awful.
And you know the absolute worst thing? She fucking doesn't piss about with naps... Ooh noooooo. Just at bastarding 12 o clock mid fucknight!
I got the grand total of 4 hours.
When the fuckety fuck sleep regression fucking end?

Sorry for all the fucks.

Actually, I'm not.

Ish

End of tether here too min

Looks like we are set for another day of screaming in this house. He is currently on boob looking at me with his big gorgeous eyes looking all cute - but then 15 mins later he will melt down into uncontrollable crying.

la S only really happy on the boob. He fusses a bit but only after he has been on a while as I think either he has to work a bit harder for the milk / the boob is almost empty.

I agree he definitely has some wind/ tummy issues as he is clearly in pain. He farts and poos a lot but he looks like he is straining most of the time.

I am checking whether we can use our private medical insurance to take S to a paediatrician - maybe I am over reacting but it seems that the Drs have a set procedure which is fine but will take ages. I Honestly don't think I could cope with another 6 + weeks of this (if not more)

la how are you coping with all the screaming? I feel on the verge of tears 90% of the time.

Grrrr back in after changing password for gazillionth time!

Thank you for the book recommendations viroids. Will get onto Amazon today and get ordering.

Will catch up in a bit. E just woken up from her nap...

What's he like when you take him out Fleur? Maybe get a GP appointment today? Firstly, they may be able to help you but if not get the referral in place. Then if you can get a private one before that, just cancel. How long have you been dairy free for now?

My child cries all the time but I'm pretty sure it's because she never gets any sleep.

I posted message but it's vanished so this is test to see if it's me being stupid

Fucks sake where did message go then?

I said that its shite you're having such a crappy time Fleur and I would definitely take him to see doctor. B is fussy and screamy and sore but nothing like what you're describing as it isn't constant and he will sleep for 3 hours once down. Saying that it's very frustrating when he wants to feed then pushes boob away and screams but I'm starting to understand him a bit more and realise when he needs to be burped which is why he's not latching.

It definitely sounds like he's not sleeping enough from your diary so a lot of it could be over tiredness

B is still grunting crying and straining in sleep but it's better than yesterday. Not sure if it's the Dentinox, leg bicycling or lack of citrus but whatever it is it's an improvement.

Does everyone else's newborn grunt, strain and fart lots in sleep? B does it constantly! Wonder weeks says we are in a development period growth spurt just now - would explain some of your stuff too Fleur? Straining a lot during feed is meant to be normal

Wil get to the doctors!

Pixie good on you for getting help - i hope the anti depressants start to make you feel a bit more in control and lighter.

Min you sound utterly over it. Can you get out for a break?

Coping with screaming Fleur - I don't is the answer, I hate it, I cry lots!

She's just had a massive meltdown so I laid on the sofa with her and hummed Wheels on the bus.
We both fell asleep and im currently trying to persuade her to stay asleep.
la going out later to get her weighed.I'm hoping she will lighten up.

I cry mostly every day. I hate to say it but I need to get it off my chest before I start announcing just how shit everyone is to their face. Basically everyone messages me saying how they want to help- my parents, parent Iin laws, siblings etc but they never fucking act upon it. I'm mentally and physically exhausted today after having a mild panic attack last night which I think is due to the tablets, and I've said to my mum if she can just have them both for 2 hours so I can get my head down. At first it was yeah ok and now it's "oh I might be busy now" I need their fucking help! What do I need to do to get some help round here? Literally be jumping out of my bedroom window? I get no time to myself at. All to just read a book or even go for a piss! It's a joke! I thought life was sometimes difficult with P but Jesus Christ this is actually like torture.

La R grunted and farted loads! He's 9 weeks now and not as bad anymore. Seemed to do it more at night when we wanted to go to sleep.
Definitely sounds like over tiredness as well Fleur.
So sorry everyone who's having a shit time. It's so bloody hard!

Another fucking full on stress. I'm so over this leap 6 shit.
She wasn't much of a smiler before but this is something else.
I'm not entirely sure how much more I can take.
So I've decided to sit outside my house letting her nap as she wakes up when we go in.

Oh Pixie, that's rubbish. It's horrible starting ADs. I threw up the first time I took one and had dizzy spells for days. I made my mum drive down to England to look after me! I get fuck all time to myself either - I feel joyous if I get to leave the house with just one child as it feels like a holiday .

Babies with reflux grunt a lot La... Actually my experience is only of babies with reflux so not very scientific.

Have had an 'interesting' day which has left me knackered. I just left C with my mum to nip to Tesco and she screamed the whole time. When I got back she just went all limp, put her head on my chest and fell asleep. Feel so bad for leaving her - she has this separation anxiety really bad!

pixie - you sound like you're at the end of your tether. Anti-ds do sometimes make you feel worse briefly before you feel better. Can you get out for a walk to clear your head when OH gets home?

Sorry about the screaming Fleur Sometimes, as horrible as it sounds, you just have to shut the door on it for five minutes and go and out the kettle on or something. Then you can go back in with a clearer head. Was refluxw discounted? Because it really sounds like that to me. Can you ask the GP for ranitidine? Did you look into cranial osteopathy? xx

Hope you got some more of a nap min

I'm so tired.

Yes to sick and dizzy spells with ADs too. I get those if I even miss one day now

Apparently MrP is starting judo again so that's yet another evening out of the house for him! I just don't even like him right now. Not sure where to go from here.

Sorry everyone is having such a rubbish time I never thought it would be this hard

I have a Drs apt booked in for next week, I am going to see how S is today/ tonight and will consider bringing it forward to tomorrow. We can use our private healthcare for him from next month.

At the moment it is being treated as silent reflux, it seems they want to give gaviscon a go for two weeks before doing anything else. I feel because S is feeding well and putting on weight they are reluctant to do anything else.

We have an appointment with a cranial osteopath tomorrow.

pixie that is really shitty of your family to do that, it's like they make themselves feel better by offering and then don't follow it up

I am just feeding S and then heading off for a nap whilst S screams at his granny

And she's woken in a good mood!
Thank fuck.

Popz I think you and I need to do the same thing and start doing stuff ourselves and leaving the babies with their dads. You could go out for three hours in the evening once a week at least and leave him to deal so he might get a taste of what you're putting up with. Not that three hours is anything like real life but it sounds like he's just sorting himself out and not thinking about either of you two. So a little responsibility might shake him up a bit?

MrWil thinks I get to have fun all the time because I go for coffee with my mum friends with my baby and toddler. Oh how enjoyable and carefree that time is, bouncing a wriggling baby on my knee whilst yelling at gently reminding my toddler that throwing toys into people's hot soup isn't actually a fun game. Just the same as his nights out to the football with his mates, drinking beer.

Fleur you are having a particularly hard time and you're coping brilliantly. Good job with the appointments. Have heard a lot of good things about the cranial osteopathy.

Yeah I know wil. I think he thinks I sit on my arse all day watching Jeremy Kyle with a brew. Or I'm out seeing my mates like Sex and the City or some shit....

Can I join you in the pissed off at men club? MrZ said he's got a meeting after work today so will be later back than normal. After digging a bit I find out its a meal and possibly could be to do with some other work thing him and a colleague are cooking up. I asked if it could have been done in work hours and he said 'possibly, but they wanted to take us for a meal.' Well that's fucking lovely...I'll stay with the baby who will not entertain herself for even 2 minutes and will only sleep on me during the day then? Ffs.

AIBU? I have gone for a nap, except I am awake and S is screaming the house down. MIL is doing all she can to settle him but failing miserably. I do not want to go downstairs as I know she will want to hand him to me who wouldn't after an hour and half of solid yelling and he is not due a feed until 7pm.

Oh and yeah, totally just got that text from DH too zyla - just cos his mum is here it's clearly ok to piss off down the pub (which is something he never did before S, he's not a drinker).

Are you feeding to a schedule Fleur?

MrPis and I were invited to a party in a couple of weeks time via FB. Very little info on the invite apart from 'arrange babysitters' so when I saw that MrPis had accepted the invitation I was going to be rather publically PA and ask who he'd managed to find to babysit..... However he had asked a question and the organizer had assumed that B is coming after all (I think anyway? It's all very confusing!) The organizer is not very good at organizing stuff.... We did a camping weekend for his birthday last year (while I was a few weeks pregnant) full of pretty active stuff - hiking up tors, mountain biking, gymnastics and he forgot to plan in time to eat. We were almost passing out in the end!

Anyway I'm going out tomorrow and I can't wait. A couple of hours without being clawed at, screeched at or puked on. Although depending on how messy the night gets actually all of those things could happen

Haha enjoy Pis!

Stay in bed Fleur, let someone else deal for a while.