Just Mumming Thread 7 - the grads grads cope with walking, own rooms and have little time for shagging

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Snap your exercise routine sounds a lot like mine. Except I'm losing weight because I'm not eating anything else really but sugar filled shite.
I'm at the docs on an emergency appointment to talk about the possibility of PND. I can't go on anymore and I've written everything down and there's nearly 30 things Im feeling at the moment from anxiety to being constantly angry and frustrated. Just feel like life is shit and I see everyone else having a nice time and I'm stuck in a house with 2 babies synchronised screaming at me every day. Obviously there's other bits and prices as well- for example as soon as R starts to cry I'm on edge and can't relax because of how he was. It makes me feel sick to my stomach. Surely wanting to dump my kids and run isn't a good thing either? I love them but I don't want to be near them which is so unlike me.
La it does take around 3 months for colic to go unfortunately P had it and it felt like the longest 3 months of mg entire life.
Sorry for bad night again Fleur. P is the one causing all the chaos in our house now- she used to go 12 hours and now she's waking up at 11pm and 1am crying. I have to go in and give her her dummy and try and settle her.

Zyla I never did blw but definitely mixed Ps weetabix with formula rather than whole milk
P was having puréed food until she was about 8 months and then I saw one of my friends giving her dd of the same age cucumbers and grapes for lunch and I felt terrible! Apparently babies gums are really hard and can gnaw through slightly harder stuff. Needless to say as of that evening P went onto harder things and she loved it and we haven't looked back since. The only time she's choked is because of a poppadom that she was having with her chicken balti one night. I did tell ST to not give it her but he did anyway because as his nn suggests he's a silly twat!

Hi all

sending you a hug snap, poor minisnap :( it's scary when they are ill. It's so frustrating as well being given differing advice. Trust your instincts as much as you can. I hope he gets better soon. No fever is good at least.

zyla well done with all the fitness!!!

how was cinema dulcet? what did you go and see? I'm envious! I had three outings arranged today and had to cancel all three due to b being so sore and cranky, I just thought it would be better to keep him nice and calm and try to get it under control rather than cart him about as planned.

fleur can you not insert Ewan up the arse of dh, as per the book? So sorry you had a shit night :( I am going to go radge at my dh soon also - he keeps insisting on 'using up' the batteries in the house on ewan the dream sheep and they don't fucking last!!! so I get halfway through the night and he starts groaning (ewan not ds). did you get a nap at all today? I napped on couch when ds did, so feel a bit more human. have also had radio on all day which actually has brightened my mood as I feel a bit happier with something to sing along to as I'm rocking B back to sleep

Sorry about lack of capitalisation - laptop shift key has packed in.

Not ignoring weaning chat, just know nothing about it so nothing useful to add! Tis very interesting to read though and I'm storing it up for future.

zyla if you use same password anywhere else I'd change it - they posted IP addresses too

mini love your excitment about centreparcs! I've heard it is good, I've never been :) They have babysitting service also so hopefully you can have some rest? Thank you so much for advice - I did appreciate it!

I dunno what to believe/think anymore because you get different advice from different places (same as you snap!). I don't think it is colic, because the definition of colic is crying for hours and he doesn't do that. He cries in little pockets at certain parts of the day (early morning particularly) and pulls his legs up and tenses tummy. Hes doing it in his sleep too and it wakes him up. It's obviously sore in his lower digestive tract. The upper I sort through burping and it's pretty obvious when it needs doing so I can fix that. I'm going to do massage and bicycling throughout the day to try to help. I've ditched the colief because there's no way I'm interrupting a night routine that's working well to start expressing milk to give colief. Through the night he feeds, burps and goes straight back to sleep and getting up to express before feed would really upset that plus you have to give two tablespoons which pretty much is a feed!

I think it's gas in his belly - but how the heck do I get it to stop? It's so bloody sore for him, he looks in agony. HV did mention that her children had same thing and it was when she ate citrus fruits. I had pineapple and strawberry yesterday and day before, and this started yesterday. so perhaps it's that? I'm not going to start cutting out dairy etc. because I want to see if what I'm doing already fixes it.

How's the boob wil?

Sling is not going well here - put it on again today and he SCREAMED! Bum.

Damn he's just woken up...

Evening!
We're fully in the me feeding R stage as Madam is far too lazy to do it herself. Quite like it tho, it means she doesn't get as messy and I don't use mountains of wetwipes (already keeping tesco on the black)!
Is there an 8 month growth spurt? This kid devoured shit loads for dinner, followed by homemade jelly and I thought 'oh she'll be full ', turned around and she had her mouth wide open so had to crack open the second jelly.
Wish she was that passionate about milk.

Talking of milk, am I supposed to be giving her it in a cup now? I know she wouldn't drink it and it's a ball ache getting her to take her bottles as it is.

snap, bless you, hope small snap is on the mend and resting.

min I still give E three bottles a day, tried a cup once or twice but not that interested and I want him to drink it so meh!

From 6 months I gave E cows milk in his porridge he only gets formula if we have run out of c milk. He has it warmed in the microwave for 15 secs!

Cinema was good thanks all. We saw Trainwreck and it was quite busy. Lots of noisy babies but good as felt comfortable in there if he kicked off. Had to feed him three times in there cos he's a greedy bugger! At least it's dark!

Hope your appointment goes well pixie. Might feel better to just tell someone how you are feeling.

I was told in a BFing class that fruit could upset the babies actually la. You could try cutting a couple things out and see I guess - short of any other explanation. So hard to watch him on struggle though in the mean time.

Which centre parks mini? (Or that might be too personal!) I've never been but heard good things. We have one nearish and it's popular locally.

Good work on getting crèche booked zyla. You can give it a go and never go again if you don't think it works for you.

Keep an eye on the boob wil. Not sure how quickly the ill feeling would follow but don't want it to get bad before you get help.

S is back to being a constant screamer. Don't know what to think/ do. So exhausted/ emotional / despairing.

Mil is coming to stay tomorrow - she offered at the weekend and today I cracked, called her and asked if she could come tomorrow so I can get some rest. Bless her, she jumped at the chance.

My mum has my sister's kids this week as she is having a kitchen fitted or I would have asked her.

Just the thought of being able to get some sleep tomorrow has made me feel better.

Huge sigh.

C gets oat milk with her porridge/weetabix simply because she can't have formula and I can't express enough for that every day. If I had the choice though, maybe I would use formula.

I would definitely get used to R using a cup Min, but don't think you need to give her milk in it. I would maybe just give water at mealtimes. Don't think there's anything wrong with bottles at 8 months?

Boob is pretty sore. Think I might have to try to get a GP appointment tomorrow if I can fit it in.

La there are a million different things in your diet which could contribute to that - so hard to know. Citrus is a common one, as are carbonated drinks. Could also be wheat, eggs, nuts etc although the most common is obviously dairy. Most babies do grow out of it though -even without changing your diet. Maybe try switching to organic milk in case that has any effect?
The fact he is often uncomfortable when nursing would suggest to me either oversupply, reflux or food sensitivity. Colic doesn't make them fussy feeders I don't think.

How upsetting Fleur, does he poo ok? Maybe it's not dairy and it's something else. Can you video it and show GP maybe?

Micro is in a phase where she screams every second of the day if she isn't being held. It's exhausting and horrid.

Pixie, good for you seeing the GP and sorry you feel so shit. I understand your frustration. I have to constantly hold the baby and then the toddler is climbing all over me and I would just love some time with noone touching me!

Yaaaay we're back!!

Have you had anything spicey these past few days La? I've heard the citrus fruit thing before. Have you tried digestive massage? We did it at Daisy tinies - think there's videos on YouTube of how to do it. Also if you've got one of those microwaveable wheatbags you can use that to soothe his tummy. Poor little guy, hope he gets some relief soon.

Sorry to hear you're feeling so anxious pixie - it's the pits. Did you manage to get to the Dr? xx

Fleur - once again - at your DH! Could you talk to his mum maybe and get her to ask him to tone the attitude down a bit...? Is there a reason why he thinks he's God's gift to parenting!?

Can also recommend the BLW cookbook. Rapley's full BLW book is really good too but if you're strapped for time, the cookbook has a really good summary intro as Zyla says. I am a total BLW convert as miniP has taken to it like a duck to water. No faffing about making puree, buying separate baby food etc. I think the thing people don't like about it is the worry of choking, or the thought that babies can't "chew" food because they have no teeth. I could bang on about it for ages, but it's all in the books, if you're interested It is messy, granted. Mini P would just played and threw mostly to begin with. But a month in and he's properly eating stuff now.

Argh, it took so long to write that I missed loads of posts!

Glad you enjoyed the cinema dulce We've never managed to get to one. Have a feeling mini wouldn't sit still long enough anymore.... Glad you're feeling more confident getting out and about more anyway

Glad you'll get a little break tomorrow fleur - videoing the crying is a good idea, should help them take it more seriously!

Wil go to the docs!! Might it be mastitis?

She uses a sippy cup, is that ok or does it have to be a cup without spout?
Weirdly she gets very excited about water.

pixie, fleur lots of love to you both xx

I think that's fine Min. Usually advice is to change things when they get to about one. Poor 1 year olds - get bottles, dummies and sippy cups taken away from them. To be honest, I still give Mini a cup with a spout or a sports bottle half the time as she drinks more that way. It's only water though so i figure that can't really do any harm.

I kind of think it must be mastitis because it doesn't feel blocked anymore yet it's bright red and sore. I'm not ill though so presuming it's not the infectious kind. Will phone up if no improvement tomorrow. Kind of enjoying not wearing a bra all the time to be honest.

Zyla, I used formula on P's porridge until he was a year old and then switched to cow's milk. It was mainly for the extra vitamins in the formula. He also had yoghurt and cheese quite early on, though.

Min I think the advice is free flow cup for water at meal times from 6 months, and wean off bottles from about a year old as they can affect the way teeth grow and are worse for tooth decay. I know quite a few 2 and 3 year olds still having bottles, though!

I completely empathise with how you are feeling, Pixie and I think you were right to go to the GP. I felt and said some horrible things about MiniSnap and ToddlerSnap when at my worst a few weeks ago, including that I didn't want the baby anymore - I absolutely DID want this baby and but the feeding issues and changes to family dynamics and feelings of responsibility were very overwhelming and I just wanted to get off the roller coaster. Things are loads better now but I still have my moments! I hope the GP was helpful?

We've got a doidy cup... mini is more interested in biting the frigging thing than drinking water. How do they learn to use sippy cups? He'd never take a bottle so guessing he won't "get" the spout thing either....

How weird that it's flared up after all this time wil

wil get to the docs please, sounds like mastitis if it's gone all red. Go get checked out! H also seems like I mist be holding her or sitting playing with her at the moment, she doesn't want to entertain herself. I think they're in cahoots again!

Ok, formula in cereal/porridge it is I think!

popz I'm hopong H gets the hang of eating lumps soon because that's what I 'want' to do with her, but she's clearly hungry and doesn't swallow anything much with the solids, then demolishes some purée, so doing both because I don't want her hungry!

popz get a free flow dippy cup, they don't have to suck on it..they just tip it :) free flow ones are more recommended at the moment I think because they're not like bottles with the not needing to suck. Tommee tippy do ones pretty cheaply.

They get the hang of lumps pretty quickly. None of my food is pureed that smooth so it's always a bit lumpy. Today Micro was eating big fat bits of penne pasta and I thought she might struggle as the bits she bit off were quite big but she managed fine.

Yes you're right about doctor. Just have such a busy day tomorrow but if I can get in late afternoon then I'll go.

We use a free flow sippy cup like Snap said Popz. That way they don't have to suck to make the water come out, it just trickles out when they tip it.

Well I've been put on anti depressants ???? thankfully it's not a long term thing and more to do with that I've been pregnant for near on two years and my hormones are wreaking havoc and my body is all confused as to why it's not pregnant anymore. The good news is is that they should start working in a couple of weeks and I'm only on a low dose because I've caught it early on. I have to go back a week on Friday as the Dr just wants to check up on me to make sure I'm feeling a bit better. I took a list with me and it was huge. I didn't realise how bad I felt until I'd written it all down
I've told ST that I'm now on ADs and he said he'd rather not know because now he thinks it's his fault I'm bloody on them! I said there's no way a man could ever make me feel like I wanted Ads and that I would've got rid of him first! Daft bugger!

With regards to sippy cups and bottles, I threw all Ps bottles out a couple of months ago and she now has her morning and night time milk in her sippy cup. She has a flask type cup during the day that has a little straw on it. It's only watered down (like 5% fruit juice) fresh fruit juice. I only put that in to keep her regular

My mum is texting ST really long messages- they are probably discussing what colour straight jacket they should buy me. ST doesn't look amused- he likes my mum but don't think he appreciates novel like text messages. For him

On a more serious note thanks so much viroids for being there for me and asking how I am etc. it means a lot and I love you all

P has taken to full on screaming and crying at me now for 4 days. I have no idea what the hell is wrong with her but it better be her teeth and they better come through soon!!

Do you think she's upset by R's arrival?

And I agree- Wil get to the Drs!

Sorry Wil! Cross post!
I think that is what it could be now. It's like the jealousy bug has hit hard the last few days. Think she's finally realised that he's here to stay, poor P
I am trying my hardest to spend some time with her just on our own but she's become so clingy with me. I read somewhere that if both children are crying pick the toddler up first as they'll remember whereas the baby won't realise if they are picked up first or second IYSWIM
God it's just bloody hard work this mum malarkey, I need an extra me and then I'd be ok!

Just reading back after changing passwords for the nine millionth time. pixie I hope you're feeling a bit better, you're right- if we could clone ourselves it'd be much easier!
Will catch up in a bit, (will get your nork to the doctor, fleur your husband needs a jiffy - I have just the thing, see below!) but just wanted to say...

Sleeping bag poonado. Oh. my. God.

Morning all

Great that you got help pixie I hope you feel better soon. I really don't know how you do it, I am tearing my hair out with one baby!

Another early start (4.30am) in this house. S started screaming, continued screaming after feed and is now strapped in the sling whilst I wander round the house - I have to keep moving!!

I am still at a loss as to what is upsetting S - maybe it is just colic? I have been keeping a diary of feeds/ sleep/ nappies etc

Yesterday in 24hrs he slept for 7 hours, fed 8 times, had 8 dirty and a further 3 wet nappies. His poo is a dark yellow colour/ slightly runny but the gaviscon has made them much more "substantial" than before.

And tee