Just Mumming Thread 7 - the grads grads cope with walking, own rooms and have little time for shagging

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New thread! Roll call...

Wishing for AF?
This is so not the mantra of a dedicated JSer (grads, however....)

She's clocked an hour....

She spent all day before yesterday, trying to poo. Couldn't help but laugh (and film) her little concentration face then yesterday spent all bloody day pooing.
Still, not nearly as half as much as some of you do.

That's the scary bit popz, he's a poo machine usually! Easily 6 a day. Then one serving of 3oz formula has meant two in two days. It's more than I think he is straining as well - then he cries and I feel sad for him.

It was aptimil mini but just the first milk, maybe the comfort one would help. Good job you said that about it going green as the one he did after it was slightly greener.

Just worried I've somehow affected supply, he's now not getting enough which is why he's not pooing or he's pooing green! BFing is a minefield!im at baby clinic now anyway so see what HV says and then try some of your wonderful suggestions.

POAS popz! It's been so long since I have encouraged a piss party - especially with you as the star guest!

Is an hour good min? I forget what you are aiming for now!

Good news on the extended sleep fleur, hopefully the start of a pattern. It is easier if you know what to expect in have night I am sure. Even if that's still broken sleep!

I spoke too soon - two huge poos in the space of an hour. Two sets of clothes too

You may be right about the dairy - his poo used to be liquid before but have a bit more substance to them now.

Maybe dulcet both of our babies have reached the one or two poos a day stage?

S is napping. In his sleepyhead and not on me. I think someone has switched my baby over night or maybe the strain of getting all that poo out exhausted him

I have drunk a whole cup of tea, replied to all my emails and texts, sorted out our banking, paid bills and put a load of washing on. Unprecedented.

God I dread the return of AF, it was bliss during pregnancy.

Plus pp bleeding seems to have stopped too.

1 hrs 10!
That'll do.
Still didn't achieve anything though.
Next time...

So I did end up on the floor Saturday night. When A got mr boo up in the morning E and I went back to bed and stayed there most of the morning. We ended up having a bit of a barny last night because he dared to remind me E is breastfed and then whined about how long bottles take to make when I pointed out all the crap for bottle feeding was downstairs and readily available. She also turned down a bottle from me yesterday after going almost a week without a bottle feed which is 100% not what we need so now I'm going to have to obsessively give her bottles until she'll take them again in case I get a job offer. Arg i don't need this shit. However I think my point about him never getting sex again if he doesn't stop the crotch grabbing actually momentarily sunk in as I made it a whole night grope free! la a booby trap sounds like a fab idea!

Viroids who've started weaning what did you start your babies on? E loves strawberry poridge given in foolish desperation but won't touch potato purée which is what the Ella's kitchen book says to start with...

fleur E poo's about 5 times a day and they're quite liquid... Have been wondering if that's normal at 4+ months though...

I'd quite like AF to come back now but only so I can force mrZ to try for another after Christmas because I'm ancient and it needs to be soon if I want another

Regarding poos, we had the worst poonami ever yesterday! Out at a christening do, all up the front of her nappy, out the top, in her belly button, all over her dress and MrZ's trousers. We basically had to bath her on the changing table in the toilet. Was funny though! MrZ had to go home and get changed lol. H was perfectly happy once cleaned up and in a fresh outfit lol.

Today I am mostly rocking back and forward and wishing I could disappear!!!!

Dulcet I've just been to see lactation person who told me to stop stressing about expressing on top of feeding. She said feeding should be enough to build supply that's right for baby. Are you expressing to be able to give bottle? We were going to do that last night but then I got confused about how I keep supply up and whether I pump when I'd normally feed. What do you do?

Went to see nct bf person this morning to try to sort the battle me and b are having when feeding. This morning I lost my shit good and proper because every feed was like a fight. She's helped me to learn to sit back and let him do the latch. It works but then I've just tried at home and we both ended up stressed and miserable again . It was nice to get out of the house. I drove - wasn't supposed to until 4 weeks but I phoned mw and said well I'm doing everything else so what's the real reason I can't drive. She said if I think i can do emergency stop then it's fine. Insurance company happy as long as mw happy. So nice to have my independence back. It was nice to chat to people too.

Last night was awful - he woke every hour and had groaning tummy pain for hours. Nothing I could do except massage his tummy and cuddle.

I'm not going to lie, I'm finding bf exceedingly hard. I like things that have structure and where I understand processes properly. When bf drags on or he just wants to suckle and not feed, or we battle, it just makes me stressed and I hate that feeling. I love bf when it goes nice and calmly but 9/10 times it doesn't

Constipation/wind - have you tried putting them over your two knees? Legs over one edge, arms over other, then rhythmically rubbing their back? It works here to move things along and move trapped wind.

Having said I was struggling my baby just latched like a pro and is now fast asleep across me. Just need to try to put him down...

I hate not being able to give advice to all you bfing viroids, just know I admire you all so much for sticking with and bow down at your persistence x
Kind of made up with MrPixie but we've still not talked properly since yesterday and for 7 hours I was say upstairs because I couldn't bear to look at him. Anyway R is off for a sleepover tonight and I reckon once P is in bed we can properly chat because I'm not happy, yesterday was just the tip of the iceberg. Fingers crossed I get to put my engagement ring back on soon if he's stopped being a twat but we shall see. I've never taken it off before but he really pushed me yesterday and I've told him I refuse to marry anyone who doesn't show me respect.

B poops once every few days. Whichever day she chooses, she'll usually go a couple of times and then it'll be nothing again for a while. Today is poop day.....

Rubbish night here so I'm not having a very productive day. I have assembled the high chair - she's not ready for weaning yet but seems to enjoy being at the table for mealtimes. Also got the jumperoo down from the loft. Got a good 30mins to snort neat coffee sort mail and stuff.

I don't think I started expressing until she was about four weeks or so? I had to wait until feeds spaced out a bit at least. I usually express in the morning from the spare boob while feeding or while she's snoozing next to me. I get a better yield if she's in the room. I usually block feed (one boob for 2-3 feeds) so the other boob is usually quite full when I want to pump some off.

I've been trying to demonstrate how to roll from front to back for B. She finds it quite funny to watch me but really isn't interested in doing it herself! I'm glad she sleeps in the Sleepyhead as that stops her rolling back to front. If she goes to sleep on a flat surface she wakes herself up doing it

Haha, zy - it's always in the nice outfits!!

Liquid poo is normal. You'll know the difference when they have diarrhoea because that is literally just water.

Perhaps he's sensing your tension La? Babies have a tendency to mirror our emotions... As I've said before, I hated bfing to begin with but it does get better. Similarly, don't feel pressured to continue if it's not what you want. But I do know a lot of women feel very emotional around giving up breastfeeding. You have to weigh up the pros and cons for you both.

POAS, mostly for nostalgia purposes. BFN. (Thank fuck!) So AF can hurry on down now cos I'm done with these cramps now.

I was impressed that H swallowed a tiny lump of carrot last night..a lump! I'm now less impressed since I've been reacquainted with it! She used to poo every 3 or 4 days after she was 2 or 3 months old, now it's every day and they've changed since starting introducing food!

la I seconf what popz says about emotions. I was really stressy in the early months that H fed every hour or so, all through the day. I went to a clinic, they checked latch blah blah, but basically she's a snacker and still doesn't go more than 2 hours in the day without a little feed. She just doesn't feed until she's really full and then sleep like most babies. Once I'd got my head around that I relaxed loads, and so did H. Instead of her crying all the time when we went out because I was so worked up that she was feeding AGAIN, I'd just pop her on when she showed signs and she was so much happier and relaxed. Basically..please try not to stress, easier said than done I know!

La you know how much I hated BF ds1, it made me miserable, so miserable that I gave up after 2weeks and never looked back. Whilst pg with ds2 I was 99% convinced I'd end up ff again, and so far were still going strong with the BF.

Every baby is different it's important that you're happy and enjoying him, I got to the stage where I was dreading ds1 waking up!

So with ds2 I'm saying that every day could be my last BF and it's no big deal. I leave formula when I want to go out, and always take some ready made with me, because sometimes this guy will fuss and kick. I said to dh we'd never be selected for a DVD as he's a noisy farting grunting kicker!

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sorry all - my last post was very 'me me me' and I meant to catch up properly but he's been a fussy bugger today and I keep not getting a chance. Add to that that dh decided to cook a wonderful full roast dinner last night, which was lovely except my kitchen looked like a bomb hit it so I've just spent 2 hours between feeds/persuading B to sleep cleaning it up.

OK so how are you all?

Yesterday I wrote a post saying how amazing I think you are pixie for standing up for yourself to your dp and also how great it is that you sorted stuff with dh fleur. But it got lost somewhere (probably deleted in my haste to press white noise app button!)

fleur thank you for bra tip! i will get on the case.

It's sO good to hear that others of you hated bf at first but it got easier! Hooray!

DS has had a nice day of lounging on my boobs and falling asleep head in boob. Fun for all the family!

Did the sand works its way through miniP popz?

min and wil sending you virtual gin, it sounds like you need it!

I sympathise with the gassy/constipated babies! Mine spent the whole of last night arching and kicking in pain and it was really rubbish to have to watch. I have to confess to falling asleep at one point - I was so knackered! Bad mum :(

min - yes, bf babies poo LOADS! every feed!

mini when do they start rolling? Well done E! I had about three hours sleep last night - ewwwww....

My LO is now being crafty - we seem to be able to bf now without the dramatic fighting each other, but he now thinks it's HILARIOUS to act like he's hungry then just go to sleep on my boob :-). Monkey.

Feeling much better about stuff this afternoon. I was a bit 'meh' at being told by bf person that I shouldn't give dummy and shouldn't give expressed bottle for another month at least, as it'll interfere with latching and supply. But tbh I think whatever helps in long run and keeps me sane!!! Totally agree dulcet that it's a minefield. I'm going loony with the lack of sleep so thought expressing a bottle for night feed would help to lessen the load, but lady this morning laid it on thick about that affecting my supply. You guys all have said it goes fine for you. I think what I'll do is express before going to bed, so then hopefully supply ok and also my boobs won't be so full.

fleur it sounds like you're having a great day!!! Really glad :)

I'm still bleeding lochia so feel like I have af! In pregnancy I had swamp foof so felt like I had my af. I am very much looking forward to the day when I don't have pads in my pants and bra!

pis do you replace the feed you give with expresse milk with pumping? Or are yours spaced out enough that you don't have to worry about it.

DS is nearly as tall as the Sleepyhead! He's a giant! Did I tell you he was 10lb 14oz a week ago? He's surely over 11lb by now! Since giving birth I've lost 2 stone of the 3.5 stone I gained. Hoping the rest melts off... wishful thinking

popz I love that you POAS!!!

Thank you for your kind words and encouragement about bf. I do love it when it goes right, but when it's a battle and he's screaming at me I need to try to relax!

Epic post la! You need a decent kip tonight for sure now. Hope little la let's you.
Thanks for the gin. We'll see how tonight fares eh

la he just wants a snuggle with mummy when he acts like he wants boob and then sleeps on you! h still does that during the day, has a bit of a feed and sleeps in me. Remember he was inside for over 9 months, he likes to feel warm and cosy with you :). (I found if I think of it like that I don't mind not being able to move from under her lol). I had lochia for about 6 weeks or so :/

We are enjoying cuddles just now :)

I'm going to go to bed early tonight and dh will give him bottle of expressed. Just to double check - do I pump before bed or do I just miss this feed out?

Think someone said earlier to just express a bit la so you don't feel too "full" or wake up with achey norks

Well R is at my parents house and P is currently fast asleep in bed. Im chilling out and watching baby faced mums! I'll sleep well tonight after being emotionally exhausted yesterday.
Still wondering whether it's worth going to the docs and discussing PND. I still feel a bit poo and I'd like it to go away. I'm just angry and annoyed all the time and ST (stupid twat) doesn't want to hug me or be affectionate because I'm like that which I kind of understand but then I'm miserable because he won't show me affection.
Thinks ST is feeling down too, but he won't admit it, the whole time of R being a nightmare just makes us even more on edge now when he cries because we're so worried he's going to go back to the way he was. Where he just constantly cried all day.

Omg my baby is in bed before 10pm Celebratory cuppa!

I only POAS because I am fat in addition to my "period pains" Just biscuits though apparently

My lochia lasted frigging ages. Gross.

La - I would express for comfort but I think if you're regularly planning on missing this feed you don't have to pump it.

I think its worth going pixie - even if just for a chat and to get it recorded how you're feeling. The GP can talk through you your options - doesn't necessarily have to be anti-ds. Hugs xx

Thanks La my ST went to work today and apparently got talking to someone else who was banished to the sofa last night. This guy told ST that he called his wife a "lazy fat cow" my ST said he wouldn't be standing talking to him if he'd said that to me. At least he knows
With regards to dumps I think P is constipated, she's not pooed in about 2 days she's drinking loads and her nappies are sodden! Just no poos!! Ah scrap that ST jut said she did two massive poos yesterday. Anyway it's bad when They are like proper little human logs! The other day she was running around the living room in her nappy and I shit you not it looked like she had a tail her poo was sticking out that bad

Proper little human logs! snort. pixie you do make me lol, hope you feel better soon and ST sorts himself out!

Human logs! Ha!!!

If you even suspect PND don't hesitate to ask for help pixie xx