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LaLaLaaaa · 08/08/2015 04:11

New thread! Roll call...

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ZylaB · 13/08/2015 09:04

wil yes it was me, hurt loads! You're meant to leave them but I popped mine and it felt lots better ;)

WilHarlot · 13/08/2015 09:16

I've kind of popped it which cleared the duct but it's still so painful to feed.

Yeah those early morning disturbances are a killer La.

Trying to implement a proper morning nap. Not happening. Micro won't feed and Mini is shouting Hmm .

Minion · 13/08/2015 09:23

Anyone have experience of letting baby nap too much in the day?
MINIon loves a good sleep, always has and I used to indulge her 4 a day habit. However after last week she has refused to take her third nap, just powered through.
Thought I'd be in for a world of pain but day 3 she slept from 6:30-3am, had a quick stint of shouting in her cot (felt like hours, but probes was about 30 mins if that) then not a peep till 6:45...
Sooo.. Do you think that third nap was causing her to wake more often?
She was also very unusually quiet between 6:30 and our bedtime at 10 where as we normally have to go up 2/3 times.

Thought they transisitioned to two naps later than that?

WilHarlot · 13/08/2015 09:30

I just love that you have a nap routine. Sure I must have done last time too. She goes to bed pretty early so she probably is ready to drop a nap I'd think. You'd know if she wasn't as she would be overtired and grumpy.

minimooo · 13/08/2015 09:36

Oh dear wil! Hope they both settle down for you. I had one of those milk blisters too. I left mine and it took ages to clear (mind you I stopped bf and was only expressing for about 6 weeks, so maybe that was why...) I found massaging it the shower helped - when I did that I'd get this kind of gritty/granular milk come out...yuck!

Sympathies fleur and la for the bad nights. It's totally exhausting, but it does get better xx

So, we're still in the midst of the sleep regression thingy here. It's been a very long 10 days and counting. Last night/early this morning I caved and sent dh downstairs and coslept with her. She's slept soundly for 3.5 hours straight! At last! I might have to do this more, just so that everyone can have some decent kip. I know cosleeping is against hv advice yada yada but it was sooo lovely waking up next to her this morning. She was all cuddled into me, awww!

WilHarlot · 13/08/2015 10:21

Seriously Cym, Horace, Pixie, anyone with two small children. How do you put the baby for a nap? We go out most days so she just sleeps when she can but I really want her to nap in the house sometimes so I can get stuff done. But the toddler just doesn't let it happen. Have just wasted over an hour of my life and she is still awake and I'm really cross with Mini!!!!!! Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

RPopz · 13/08/2015 10:23

Yeah when you get to that gross stringy kind of milk I think it means you found the blockage... Hmm Glad the boobah is feeling better wil!

Me and miniP have been cosleeping again this week mini - it's a lifesaver! Bugger to the HVs... I just lied to mine Smile

Dulce - I've only tried the dress on once, but I don't really think it is bf friendly... It's going to be an interesting day haha! We've booked a hotel room though so if all else fails I'll have to keep going upstairs and taking it off... Hmm

RPopz · 13/08/2015 10:24

Oh Wil Sad Is it stuff you could do with her in the sling?

Fleurchamp · 13/08/2015 10:35

I was going to say, sling. It's the only way I get anything done. S will go down on the play mat, in the sleepy head (but NOT the bouncy chair), on the sofa etc but for about 15/20 mins only. If he sleeps on me he will get a good hour or so.

Expressing is tedious and proving rather fruitless. I think I have about a tablespoon Sad

Cymraes17 · 13/08/2015 11:45

At the moment Im trying to pile clothes ready to put away. DS is entertaning baby (she s in the bouncy chair) DDs1&2 are in the living room with us playing with barbies. Baby may nap in the chair, may not. But
I follow her lead, if she is hungry feed her, when shes awake plonk heri n bouncy chair or on playmat and the other three gather around her to play. DD2 has droped the last nap a few months ago, she would sleep for an hour or so after lunch, but is now refusing. She will sleep in pushchair but have taken her seat off so she can walk.
After first feed of the morning about 6/7 ish she will go back to bed untill next feed.
I have to try doing things during the day, after 6pm she will feed constantly untill 9/10 then sleeps till morning. Its like her time for all the cwtches after the others go to bed(which should be about 7:30)
Our house is like a bomb has hit it most days, toys and clutter, and when I do manage to tidy, it doesn't last long.
Right next step, nappies in wash, lunch on the go.

deeplybaffled · 13/08/2015 11:56

Thanks for all the advice, viroids! Does anyone know if you can rent pumps from the hospital in the first instance? Nct suggested buying one now, but they aren't cheap, especially if you don't know if it'll work for you and / or might just be one baby in family #oldgimmer.
am definitely keen to try to bf and expressing but trying to get my head round all the logisticsSmile

SnapdragonAzZ09 · 13/08/2015 13:35

Wil, I'm equally struggling with toddler thwarting any efforts at daytime nap in Moses basket and have given up and succumbed to the sling. Every time I tried to get the baby settled P would come in and roar/ prod/ jump/ cry/ brandish noisiest toy in the house. He did the same when we were struggling to establish breast feeding, and it was pretty much impossible with him around. I felt angry and resentful towards him and then felt awful. I think it's pretty common for second child to snatch naps whenever they can manage, in sling, buggy, car, etc.

WilHarlot · 13/08/2015 14:15

Thank you, I have calmed down now Blush . All my other friends seem to manage it but maybe it's because their toddlers go to childcare sometimes so they have a stab at establishing a routine on those days.

I have read about hospitals renting out pumps but never received any info that suggests ours does Deeply. Can you ask MW? Medela pumps seem to go on special deals periodically on amazon and suchlike places. Keep an eye out.

LaLaLaaaa · 13/08/2015 14:59

Had to post my first post half finished coz dh was in military mode shoving me out door. Has taken til now to find time to finish it!

Mini I'm sorry you're having tough time with sleeping. RE co sleeping I say whatever works for you! I co slept with B in hospital both to comfort him and get him to sleep. It was lovely

Wil that sounds so utterly frustrating! Would white noise help to lessen the impact of mini noise/disturbance?

Cym yet again I bow down to you and have no frigging idea how you do it! bows down reverently

Deeply you can rent pumps from nct or from mothercare I think? We bought ours 2nd hand on eBay then bought replacement parts for the bits that need to be hygienic. Medala swing. It's good but I preferred the symphony they had in hospital which is way too expensive.

We tried the whole me going to bed early and dh doing late (10pm) feed of expressed milk so I could have extra couple of hours sleep. Was disaster - I'd expressed 120ml which he sucked down quickly then started roaring. Poor dh was in shock at having a screaming baby and no food so no way of stopping him screaming. Id thought 120 ml would be enough for a feed! We haven't tried it again yet. Definitely no problem with him actually taking bottle, he was fine doing that. HV has suggested feeding a bit at a time and winding in between to get him to slow down.

Dulcet - B has started fussing like mad latching on, same as you described. He pounds me with fists, pushes me away but then gets frustrated and yowls that boob isn't in his mouth. It's like a battle :(. I've been trying different holds and approaches to see if it makes a difference. He also chokes a lot and coughs which mw said was because he guzzles and my flow is fast squirts him in the face HV has just been and suggested swaddling him for feeding and trying more upright positions to slow him down.

Yesterday we had another exorcist vomit moment - all over me and couch. My fault, I don't think I winded him properly so he must've had wind then eaten more on top of it and the whole lot came back up. He looked so sad poor love!

We are starting to think about routine. During day it's pretty set - 10, 1, 4, 7. But we are trying now to work a bath in somewhere between 7-10 pm and get him into idea that night is quiet sleepy time. Advice is contrary though - some say feed before bath, others say feed after bath. Either way he doesn't much like baths. HV has just said feed after bath so I'll do that tonight. She said don't worry much about routine until 3-4 months as that's when they start forming habits.

Once he's asleep he sleeps through anything and wakes up like clockwork for his feed time regardless of whether he went to sleep 3 hours earlier or 20 mins. It's uncanny.

I'm feeling a bit better for having had more any sleep but it's still hard going.

The biggest drain just now is the sheer number of visit requests. I just simply can't hack all the people coming round who want to. People don't realise how tiring it is having to make normal chat. Yesterday it was lovely to see my sil but she arrived at 12:30 and didn't leave until 5pm. I can't make conversation for that long! My brain was mush by the time she left.

Went to photographer this morning to see our photos she took and chose prints for a multi frame and then some digital prints to be able to print off ourselves. It was extortionate but they are so beautiful I really don't regret spending the money! So many gorgeous newborn ones!

HV has just weighed him - 10lb 14oz! He's 98th centile. I produce big children!

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LaLaLaaaa · 13/08/2015 15:22

Is it that she's physically waking micro up wil or is it the noise? Do you have option of putting micro in different room to mini with monitor on?

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rm00054 · 13/08/2015 16:53

I feed one boob before bath and other one after La that way J is not too angry during the bath but he still gets a calm boob time just before bed. Works for us.
I also hated all the visitors, I so wanted to just sleep but always had people coming over. We had at least 1 visitor a day for the first fortnight or so. In hindsight I think the visits helped keep me sane and they all brought food so I can't really complain!

Min I'm of the thinking that babies can have too many naps a day. But only in terms of them needing a set amount of sleep in a 24hr period. I will wake them (shock horror!) if they're sleeping too much during the day otherwise there's the risk they won't sleep at night. Obviously this all goes out the window if they're ill or having broken sleep at night for any reason (eg teething). But if they're getting the same amount of sleep just split up into lots of little naps that's fine, but a bit annoying for you as you only have short periods of baby-free time.

I'm still confused about reflux/colic/milk intolerance. Can anyone help, this is what I have with J:

  • He is sick a LOT. Always after a feed, and at random times throughout the day. Sometimes with quite a bit of force.
  • He prefers to be upright (don't all babies?!)
  • He's very gassy. He'll be really upset then do a fart then immediately be happy again.
  • He does a big stretch at the end of a feed, arms up, head back and back arched, is this what it means when people say 'arching their back'? He only ever does this straight after a feed or when I pick him up after a decent sleep. It does look more like a stretch rather than pain related.
  • He lays with his knees drawn up. Always has done, so this may just be him.
  • He's generally happy, no excessive crying (apart from yesterday evening)

What does this sound like?

Indigoblue2 · 13/08/2015 18:48

la did I miss your birth story? Have you posted it?

Minion · 13/08/2015 19:00

rm it doesn't sound like reflux to me..
They generally arch their backs during feeding and scream if bottle is taken away (silent reflux) as the acid in tummy comes up burns their throats, milk soothes it and causes it to feel better so they swallow more acid, burning them on the way down again.
Trapped wind /colic: knees are brought up to their chests so baby looks a bit like a quaver, all curly, like their trying to touch the feet. When R had trapped wind her arm would wave wildly until she Burped.

Milk intolerance: possibly have excema, fussing during feeding (see reflux), excess cradle cap, trouble sleeping sometimes.

Hth xx

Minion · 13/08/2015 19:01

Ps stretching: perfectly normal. R's fave hobby was having a good old stretch. Something to do with it how they work out their muscles to strengthen them.
I miss her stretchies

LaLaLaaaa · 13/08/2015 20:08

RM if knees are being drawn up it sounds like wind but not if they are drawn up constantly. B pulls his up repeatedly when sore, not constant.

Just out him to bed I'm new 1 tog grobag - HV recommended bodysuit with no legs and long arms underneath as she said he might be waking up lots because of chilly arms. He looks very cute but it still looks like he's wearing too much to me. Still I'm sure we'll find out. It does look cosy. Gro egg says 23.7 degrees

He's been asleep almost all day, waking only for food and only one tantrum which I dissolved by singing his namesake song by Michael Jackson. He smiled at me!

By the way - Ewan the dream sheep works but it only goes for like 10 minutes! Blooming silly. He just drifts off and it stops and he wakes up

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FurryScoob · 13/08/2015 20:36

la open Ewan's belly & pull out his battery pack, you can change the setting to 20 minutes. You can also turn the light off which saves the battery because Ewan is a hungry sheep & gobbles batterys!

min miniS has 2 naps a day usually about an hour long but I don't let her sleep after 4pm, that way she goes down at 8 & usually has a good night.

What happened with the hacking, I've just had to log back in

WilHarlot · 13/08/2015 20:50

I have a similarly annoying problem with our white noise toy La. It senses when they cry and starts playing. But it automatically goes on to a new sound which is music. It won't play the frigging white noise which she has for going to sleep in the first place. Obviously music just makes her mad and does not in fact soothe her back to sleep. Stupid bloody design.

I take Micro upstairs for attempted nappage but the problem is Mini comes up because she is bored/thinks it's funny wee bugger.

RM J could be a happy chucker. A lot of babies have reflux as the little valve which keeps food down isn't properly developed yet. But if it isn't really bothering them apart from being sick you don't have to do anything and they'll grow out of it.

RPopz · 13/08/2015 21:21

Pink noise on YouTube - has about 8 hours solid of white noise apparently. I use the BabySleep app which gives you 30 mins.

I'm so tired Sad

LaLaLaaaa · 13/08/2015 21:47

God will this sodding child not fucking sleep!!!!!! I love him but I want to scream!

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Minion · 13/08/2015 22:01

Hugsla
Looks like last night was too good to be true.
We've had to resettle her twice in the last 5 mins.
Long night ahead I feel