July 2006.....and they all roll over......

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Ladies, thought I would do the new thread as the other one is taking forever to load up.

I've had a killer throat too for the last couple of days KZ so you have my sympathies

I'm so relieved to hear about all these other babies who have trouble getting off to sleep and only sleeping for 30 mins. Thank God it's not just Aidan!

Interesting to read the comments about solids/sickness. Took Aidan to the dr's today - he doesn't think there is a physical problem as A is such a happy baby, but just a v bad case of possetting. He was still working on the 4 months weaning guidance so was surprised when I told him guidance was now 6 months! He suggested that I discuss with HV about possibly starting solids earlier to reduce the sickness.

Also I've just got a book on weaning (can't say by who ) and it says that you need to be introducing protein foods by 6-7 months but that baby needs to be used to first foods before this. Seems like an awful lot of foods to introduce in quite a short time if you only start weaning at six months. So I'm starting to think I might give it a go in a couple of weeks. Maybe

evening ladies, we have another unsettled baby here!! why is it that when you think you have night time sorted it then decides to go all haywire!! just got him off to sleep again now!

junior rolled over today!!! yey!!!
ive got some really cute pics of him before he started doing them

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twinkleinsantasey - I've got that book to !

I started DD1 on solids at 24 weeks. We followed her routine for a 4 mth old & it was absolutely great. DD1 is a great eater as well.

I would hold off as long as you can. I will be doing the same with DD2 (still breastfed). perhaps trying to get to the 26 weeks this time.

Hope that offers some reassurances for you.

to should be too

Splat - sorry I probably sounded really patronising describing pyloric stenosis when you knew all about it! I know this sounds bad but it was actually a relief when they diagnosed it on Josh because I was really struggling to cope with all the vomiting and at least we knew it would be cured - although handing him over to the nurse for the operation was the hardest thing I have ever had to do! I don't know how you feel but feeding him became a chore and me and DH were on edge constantly waiting for him to vomit (it was sometimes 2 hours after feeding) - the only time we could relax was once he had been sick until the next feed time - I was scared to take him out aswell. Again, hats off to you for coping this long. Really hope it gets sorted asap. Josh is still a sicky baby but he possets more than vomits now and is never bothered by it.

Scary vomit story alert - yesterday morning when I picked Josh out of his cot, he pulled his face like he had an awful taste in his mouth and then spit up clear fluid which I thought must have been saliva - anyway when I picked him up some of it dropped on to his (blue) grobag and when I looked later, it had bleached it to a pink colour!! I am assuming it must have been really strong stomach acid coming back up - no wonder he pulled such a funny face but scary how strong that acid must have been!

Pretty - what a gorgeous little boy!

Twinkle/KS - got the killer throat aswell!

those of you who are waiting until 24 weeks to wean - are you going to do it then anyway even if your lo shows no signs of wanting solids?

Hi everyone

Thank you for your thoughts re weaning. They helped me get the idea into perspective and have decided to wait because although Zack's sleep patterns are bad they have always been bad but the night following that decision he woke every hour and a half last night it was back to every 2 hours. I'm off to clinic this morning for a weigh in so will discuss with HV.

Something to smile about though- I have dropped a clothes size -yay!!!

Had more rows with DP but have since made up so fingers crossed now everything is out in the open we can settle down a bit. He has been feeling left out and neglected, I'm trying to be understanding but I'd like to see how he would cope with being woken every 2 hours every night for weeks on end

Zack awake so better go x

Morning all

Sorry to hear some of you are poorly . I am actually well today but just so, so tired. Weaning Sophie has made night waking worse-bit distraught about it really. From being a once a night girl she is 2, 3, and even 4 times a night now. Got to be something to do with having less milk as she is full on food alone. Mum insists I give her a bottle of SMA at 11pm but I really don't want to. Can't speak to my HV about it as I shouldn't have weaned her anyway.

DH usually takes DD1 to outlaws on a Tuesday but he is just getting lazier and rang them to tell them to pick her up-grrrhhh! Anyway, luckily DD1 is old enough to use the phone to ring them and tell them she was ready for collecting and only FIL came-phewee! Just not in a fit mind to cope with MIL due to extreme tiredness-am liable to flip at any moment. DH said I was nasty this morning-er, no just tired. He played squash last night so he is more tired than me of course. Feel that if I sit down and have a good weep it might help.

Sophie crying so better go but I'll be back later if still awake. Lovely pics girls. Sophie was 5 months yesterday so have snapped a couple of pics so will try and get them on later.

Have a good day.

xxx

Hi ladies,

Frosty- {{{{{{{hug}}}}}}}. You sound like you need one hon.

I think there are a few others on here also who could do with one so...{{{{{{hug}}}}}}.

Sorry for not replying individually I have a brain pain today. And cant cope with all the schrolling(sp) up and down trying to remember what people said.

I have read all your posts tho and will reply later if my headache dissapears. Bye for now.

hi all

I had a read of my "Birth and Beyond" book by Dr Yehudi Gordon last night.
He has a great section about relationships, communicating with partners, and some of the common problems which arise after having a baby. It is very honest about how having a baby can often weaken a relationship unless you take steps to prevent it. And they make suggestions how. Wish I had read it 2 months ago!

Also the section on weaning was quite good, and they recommend weaning anytime from 4 months. I think I will start this or next week - he will be 22 weeks. Just 2 teaspoons of baby rive a day to start with.

Going to buy the weaning book by the lady who you can mention! Annabel Karmel - 5 stars on Amazon.

S is finally asleep - after 45 mins of playing inhis cot - so gonna use this half hour wisely and get my work out the way

ciao

Sleep - great minds must think alike as I was reading that Birth and Beyond book this morning! Didn't read the bit about partners though - maybe I should....I was reading about development and I am even more proud of Josh now as it says in there that rolling from back to front is a skill that very few babies master before 7 months - and to think he did it at 4 1/2 months [proud emoticon] - still can't roll from front to back which it says is the easier one to do!!

TwinkleInSantasEye ? I have the same book and it is really useful. When I weaned dd I used the book and starting weaning at 23 weeks I just shortened the duration of her steps to get dd onto protein at 7 months. We then switched to Annabel karmel book after a while as the recipies are far nicer.

Prettymum ? the pics are lovely and I cant believe how well he is holding his head up on his tummy, ds still hates his tummy and just manages to raise his head to 90 degrees before collapsing he has never raised up on his chest like your lo.

Xmasstocking ? in response to your question yes ill start then anyway as iron reserves start to run out after 6 months and bf doesn?t offer as much iron as food. That said though in finland they don?t wean until 8 months old.

FrostytheSnowman- big hugs, why don?t you speak to your hv as they don?t seem to advise waiting to 26 weeks anyway, they may come up with something helpful. You could also try a dream feed, I was dream feeding ds. It?s a bit harder trying to do it with the breast but did make him go 3hrs from that feed. Although ive decided to stop it now as when he woke at 5am I couldn?t get him back down so now I feed at 6pm,8pm,12am, 3am and 8am, so far he has gone straight down after the 3am until 7am, although ive probably jinxed it now.

just thought I'd add something about Annabel Karmels book - would you cook her recipes & eat them ? I generally wouldn't - or maybe I was just put off with the carrot & tomato flowers

OTOH the other book, well we still use it now & I'm very proud of daughters eating habits.

Just a thought & if anyone wants to buy my AK book, let me know !

kbaby-I started the dream feed on Saturday night and for a couple of nights she went until 3ish-but not last night! Oh, and it was DD1 waking me at 1-30am on Sunday night-oh joy!

My HV is a bit of an ogre-when Sophie has her jab in December I will talk to her then as she will be 25 weeks.

Crikey-she is crying again! Has just done an enormous poo mind you so probably peckish. Will I ever get my wrapping done?????????

xxx

Those with 'the other book', is it specifically a book on weaning with recipes etc. I have the more general book which has a small section on weaning and wondered if that was it or whether there is a specific weaning book?

Mojo- Can I buy it from you please?

Have to pop into work now, hope to pop back later and catch up with you all properly x

the other book hee hee !

Yes there is a weaning book. The CB Guide to Weaing. What I really liked is the sense behind it - times to wean & why. Also she is very pro savory food - ie introduce lots of veg, a wide variety of food & no sugar laden yogurts. I would say she promotes sensible eating, so there are 3 sensible meals a day. We are still eating (amongst others) her lentil shepherds pie & my friend is a big fan of the chicken oaty crumble !

hey everyone

regarding the dream feed, i found that it helps, but i do tend to go bed late so he gets it around 12 or 1 am and after this feed he can sleep through till 7-8. but he woke last night around 1 and 6 for a feed and we all incuding dd slept till 9 this morning which was good!!

i need to find a good weaning book, which one is most popular?

gotta go, little ones belly is rumbling!

sleep - wiah id read that book when i was PG, cause that is when my Ex told me he wanted to dump me!
Apparently hes sleeping with some1 else, i went out with his mates at the weekend for their birthdays, one of them tried to get off with me, and i said i wasnt over my ex yet, and he said 'oh, well, hes f**cking someone else'.

Great. He's still at my house and he denies it (I ran home all the way from town -about 45mins- and demanded an explanation) I was very drunk I think, and upset and i cannot remember what he said, but he refuses to talk zabout it now!

AND

There was a woman with a baby who was 6months old in one of those timy puchairs you can swallow they're so small in the pushchair space. I'd done all of the shopping in ASDA military style so they fitted onto the pushchair bottom, so i got on and it was FULL of old women. The woman just egnored me and i had to take all of the shopping out and out it into the luggage bit. I had to put Jake on the floor cause i asked all of the OLD PEOPLE if they coiuld hold him they said NO, and one said to just keep him in the pushchair THERE WAS NO ROOM GRRR...
So i had to put him on the dirty floor by the door and this woman nearly stood on him. then i had to fold the pushchair and balance it ON TOP of my food. The luggage things are tiny and it was wobbling. I had to stand up with jake in my arms (of course i picked him up..im not that cruel!) all the way to my stop, one hand on the pushchair and shopping, one around my baby!

And this woman sitting opposite where it would have been usefull for me to sit just said - the luggage thing is full up, where am i supposed to put my handbag!!!

I RAN to the back of the bus and sat there and cried!

Sorry for the rant.

Kayzed - Roshi sounds like she doing well. jake is inbetween 3-6 and 6-9 cos i cant afford any new babygrows! My nan bought me some nappies and they were size 3.

I have started giving Jake a few spoons of pureed sweet potato around 7pm (i always forget during the day and my mum is home then)

pretty - Jake is the same, he goes to bed late, but i dont do the dream feed thing here.

ahh Koshka {{hugs}}
SOunds so stressful, it is a pity you have to see him every day, it is probably making it harder for you to get over him?

I hate it when people are so rude about babies and prams.. I had someone on the bus the other day who was stood in the passage way so I couldnt get to the pram area, and she just stared at me (Couldn't get passed and the bus was already moving) so when I asked her to move she kinda just stepped a bit back but I still couldn't get passed, so I had to ask her again and she was all huffs and puffs, like I had asked her to do something really inconvenient! Silly moo.

S is lying in his cot, avoiding sleep as per usual. At least he doesn't need entertaining tho, he is chatting away to himself. He has quite a husky voice - cute!

koshka- sending you loads of big hugs!!!!!!! {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hug}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
i really think you should chuck that ex of yours out!! i dont know how you do it still having him there!! i think it will help you move on if he's out!!! but only do what you feel is right.

i can't wait to start driving so i can avoid buses!!! i hate it when its freezing cold and you have to wait for a bus that hasnt got buggies on already!!!

Hi all

I feel so sorry for ppl having to use public transport on a reg basis with LO's! I'm lucky as I drive but TBH can walk anywhere in Stafford so have just being buying a few things at a time and walking!

Whoever asked ?frosty I think? Evies weaning is doing well (I think shes 23 weeks now?) Had a slight blip when she started waking in the night again but think she was letting us know she needed extra solids! BLESS!! She is now having fruit at b'fast, veg dinner and fruit pud and a small Tea (bout 3 o clock) of either veg/friut! Sleeping from about 7-7! It does get better!!!

Anyhow just a quicky, payday (if you can call it that!!) today so bought my final few pressies and gotta wrap B4 DP returns from work!
Oh how are things with everyones DH/DP? I think We're sorted now, he's just had some time off at last think its the pressure of not seeing him that much Hes working 8 or 9 days in a row now!!

Speak soon x

Evening all.

Toby is better, not as volatile, but woke up just now screaming, so gave him some more milk and some medised and he fell back to sleep. He is still getting a dream feed at 10.30 (don't know whether to give it to him tonight now though) and sometimes sleeps through till 6ish, but more often wakes up about 4am for some more milk....

I wouldn't mind that at all if DS1 sdidn't keep waking at 5.45am!! Grrrrr. It really is too bloody early to start the day......

HC, do you not give Sophie any milk at all now then???

My lasagne was "my best ever" last night apparently....Better not get too good at this cooking lark, or I'll have to do it more often.....

Bloss

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