July 2006.....and they all roll over......

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Ladies, thought I would do the new thread as the other one is taking forever to load up.

Hi KrimKZ

No not superblue, but Splat with Reuben. Back and forth to GPs all the time - think its now time to see consultant of some kind, Im convinced GP thinks Im suffering with PND and HV only just taking me seriously after looking into effects of reflux.

Thanks for your post, will post again soon, as can hear screams coming thro monitor with DP and DS!

ps sorry he was bfed reflux soon stopped that then on SMA gold, now on Farleys - first night of changing he slept beautifully, however things have defo taken a turn for the worst this last few weeks. Maybe cos of increase in milk intake (have to feed him mostly when asleep as he takes it best then). Yep going to push for it now, as cannot accept that this is just the side effects of yet another cold and permanent congestion...... thanks for support

Only downside with Rantindine was when he was prescribed it weeks ago, he threw up several times - so didnt try it again. Have heard that this can happen with some tho

Night x

oh i hope all the babbas with reflux get better soon!!! it must be so frustrating not knowing if theyre getting enough milk!! i never knew about reflux before and have found out a lot from these threads!

Im peed off today as DH has the man flu and has spent all day either in bed or laying on the settee while I run around doing everything. The fact that he was out from 12pm until 3am yesterday watching Rugby apparently has nothing to do with his flu!

DS woke as normal at 4am on Friday night but I just laid him back in his cot after his feed and thought his crying will soon wake me up, however, at 7.30 I woke up and hes playing in his cot but what I don?t know is if he had actually been playing since I put him down so now I feel a bit guilty at leaving him playing on his own for so long

SleepIsForTheWeak- Sounds as if we all have men trouble at the mo. The problem is I bet if DH stayed at home to mind the lo?s it would be easy for them because minding is all they are capable of doing. Dh cant do anything apart from look after the lo?s so the house stays a mess, dinner doesn?t get cooked and no washing done because hes looked after them. Ummm I don?t know how I manage to do all of the housework and look after 2 children at the same time.

Krimbokrackerskayzed ? DD ?s first words were Dada, cat, then finally mama. I wasn?t impressed that I came behind the cats, If I remember it was around 7 months but not sure.
Babalon at other mumsnetters, fancy stalking like that how childish.
Usandourlittlexmascracker- You can choose to ignore my advice but I would wait re the weaning, I weaned DD at 5 ½ months as she was waking twice at night for feeds and it made no difference whats so ever. And theres others on our thread who have weaned and their lo?s are still waking. Why not give it 2 more weeks and then decide.

Ive tried loads of times to get a December picture for a calendar and this is the best have a look at this
SleepIsForTheWeak- You?ll probably find that when your parents say ?baby? they actually meant your were 1 or 2. I know my parents forget what I did when and even I sometimes think DD did things earlier than she did and have to check her baby book.

Wallace ? The pics are lovely

Hi all,

Am off to bed now but I need some help with ideas. It's my 30th birthday on 15th December and I need some help to think of something to do for it. I have been thinking about it all week and so far all I have come up with is a meal but I do that every year and I wanted to properly celebrate the fact that am gettin old and have hit the big 30

Thanks

Jeanie

PS DH was supposed to have organised me a party. He offered about 6 months ago but hasn't bothered.

CDame on for a quick hello, and there are so many posts ! Thank you all for admiring the photos - they are so lovely I am seriously thinking of getting some done with all three children (and labrador!)

Not got much to ass re birth experiences. My first two were pretty mediocre. Basically the midwives were in charge and they were really quite long. I pushed for ages, being told when to push. With Leo I felt like I was in control, and what a difference! When I went in, the midwife actually asked me what I would like from the birth, rather than telling me!

kbaby - lovely photo, even though your ds again doesn't seem that keen on his beautiful big sis

cross posted Jeanie...are you sure your dh hasn't organised a surprise party?

Just a quick post tonight you'll be glad to know. Thanks for all your kind words re the b word - I think I am gradually moving on - MN has helped ALOT.
I'm so sorry to hear about all your problems with reflux, KZ and Splat. I'm taking Aidan to the doctor tomorrow about his sickness as it's getting worse, but thankfully it's not as bad as your LOs. I do hope things improve for you.
Jeanie - I turned 30 last week . We didn't do anything special though as money's pretty tight at the mo.

Lovely piccies by the way. Kbaby - your LO looks just about as happy as Aidan is at having his picture taken!

kbaby - cute picture! And I wouldn't worry if your DS was happy playing on his own, he knows how to wake you up if he wasn't .

I had a homebirth with just TENS, so a natural labour, but DEFINITELY NOT painfree. I kept active and had baths etc, but what really helped me deal with it all was support from DH and my mum, as well as fab community midwives. Not sure if this makes a difference, but my waters didn't break until I'd been pushing a while (all over my mw ), whereas my friend's waters broke first and then she had immensely painful contractions from the word go. I think that because mine gradually built up I found them easier to deal with. I still remember 2 moments of absolute fear that I would not be able to do it (1st was at 3am when I was exhausted, 2nd was about 11am when I was in transition). I tried to prepare as much as poss for the birth, but what I tried to keep in mind is that you can't really prepare for it at all!

I've done my Xmas name change early to cheer myself up. Have had to write my returning to work letter this morning Hope you all have a good day!

Kbaby ? Lol at your calendar pic, the expressions on both their faces are priceless
Don?t feel guilty that your DS was playing in his cot by himself - it?s good that he?s so chilled out

Twinklemegan - I read most of your thread ? just wanted to say that it sounds dreadful and I?m not surprised you were traumatised . The bit about the bath sounds horribly familiar, though I didn't have the OP problems that you did. I started having very intense contractions on the ward at night after being induced. The midwife on the wards was pretty unsympathetic and first suggested I go and make myself a cup of tea or have a bath. She said I didn?t ?look? as though I was in labour. When I said that the pains had suddenly got very much worse, she did say ?well what sort of pain relief do you want?? but at the time I was standing in a corridor in my nightie and hadn?t been examined, so I had no idea what was going on really. I said I?d try tea and a bath - I couldn?t drink the tea so she took me to the bathroom and left me there on my own ? I managed to get in the bath but was in far too much pain to find the water helpful, then started bleeding, so sitting sobbing in the bloodstained bath I pulled the cord. A different midwife came along and said ?having a nice bath??. My reaction to that question prompted them to finally examine me ? I was 6cm and got taken to a delivery room and they called DP. Then got a really nice encouraging midwife who showed me how to use gas and air and recommended pethidine which was just the best thing she could have done as I really needed calming down by then. The rest of the labour was fast and painful (5 hours in total), ending up with ventouse delivery as DD was distressed by having the cord wrapped round her neck several times. The crash team came as it took a while to cut the cord off - she had oxygen but didn?t need resuscitation. But by far the worst memory of the whole experience was the bit in the corridor and bath at the beginning, and not knowing what on earth was going on.

This seems to be shockingly common that women are fobbed off when they are in labour - can you imagine going into hospital for any other reason and being in that much pain and just being told to go off for a walk or something grrrrrrr. And (while I?m on a rant ) I also get cheesed off by those ante natal classes that seem to imply that all it takes is a few deep breaths and a sniff of lavender oil and you?ll be fine.

Anyway sorry for v long post ? be back later, so much to catch up on?

Have good days everyone xx

kbaby - what lovely photos - your dd looks delighted to have a little brother.

Beautiful photos KBaby! Esp like the one in the reindeer outfite, v v cute!

Hi Kz - will try not to overload this lovely happy thread with nasty nasty reflux issues.
Well screams in monitor was DS being sick yet again - shame he just managed to take 6.5 oz really nicely (albeit in his sleep). Anyway that finally was the last straw and DP said "Right Ive had enough we are going to the Drs first thing" at long last, he finally understands the stress it puts on you. To cut v long story short, today DS has had chest xray to make sure not inhaled any acid - waiting results - and have now been referred to Hosp for proper diagnosis. Gp spoke to Ped on phone who thinks it might now be a case of Oesophagitis (sp). Has prescribed Losec (omezaprole) but takes while to get in at Chemist - so no quick fixes there then. Thanks KZ Domperidone didnt really help with vomiting issues, as he usually brought that back with feed within half an hour before it had time to kick in.

On lighter note - he is such a gorg happy baby when not being fed! And do have to remind myself that there are worse things in life .....but what a horid start in life for our poor little refluxers when all they want is their milk . Dont want to wish these early few months away, but god I cant wait til he is walking! KZ you sound like you cope a bit better than me.

Jeez you guys, it has taken me two shifts ofreading to catch up on all your post! Would feel like I had cheated if I posted before reading all yours....i am a freak with OCD, clearly.

DP out with DS1 on a walk, it's his birthday and he is off work. Toby asleep upstairs. have made a lasagne (one of five things I can cook) and am taking a break.

So reassuring to hear that lots of your LOs are turning grumpier. We have had a VERY trying weekend with a usually sublime Toby. I have decided it is teething. I thought it might be the Hungry Baby milk giving him a stomach ache so have taken him off it just in case, but a suspicious lump in his gum, and the fact that he cheered up after Calpol has made me think it's teeth. he's only 16 weeks I'm sure DS1 teethed later than this...

My night out last week was good - drunken and fun but I wished I hadn't stayed out in retrospect, really missed my boys and couldn't wait to get back in the morning. However, it was the making of DH who really needed to have them to himself for the first time and seemed to mamage ok! The house was a BOMBSITE though when I got back, so whoever said all they do is mind the kids is dead on......tripped over a potty full of wee when I went up the stairs FFS!!

I aso struggle to get TOby to sleep well in the day - I think it is a combination of being out alot, so I rely on him sleeping in the car and buggy, having DS1 to look after so Toby gets ignored wuite alot and him not needing sleep that much. if we are home for the day and I am organised enough to get him in his cot for daytime naps, he never sleeps for longer than half an hour.....

Had a budget conversation with Dh the other night...we have decided that after Chrimble I am going to give myself an allowance from my savings and stick to it, or I will be going back to work alot sooner than planned.......need to have a win on the old Premium Bonds I think...

Love to all, welcome to all newbies and big hugs to those with reflux, it sounds horrendous, poor little mites...

Bloss

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Hi all

Jeanie: Yes it is me!How could you miss it? Where are you from? There is a bullring carpark but its underground by new street station, otherwise you should have just asked someone!
Kbaby: great pic!
All those reflux babes: It does get better! Evies 23? weeks now and seems alot better esp since starting solids!

Just a quick update of this camp! Evie has started wakng in the night again!! been three on the trot now so admitting its not just a one off! Up-ed the two three meals a day today to see if that helps but now she won't settle tonight but I'm adamant DP will do it as I'm feling like I do everything and never even get a seconds break (Pretty accuarate!) Can hear her sobbing and him trying to console her through the monitor and clenching my teeth trying not to go up as he's more than capable!!!!

Sorry bout that rant over!

Bloss - at potty of wee - I know what I would do to my DH if he did that. I think it is right that men can only mind the babies!

Kbaby - fab photos. Ds looks really pleased to be in the reindeer outfit - can't wait to put Josh in his Don't think you are a bad mum cos DS was playing by himself - he would have let you know if he wasn't happy so make the most of the time he is happy to play by himself!

Splat - big sympathies - I know what it is like to have a baby who vomits all the time (we thought it was reflux) - Josh had a medical condition which caused him to vomit everything up continually and it could only be cured by an operation which he had at 8 weeks old and he has been fine ever since (in case I have worried you
that your lo has this, it develops between 4-8 weeks normally so it is highly unlikely). He vomited continuously for a week and it was awful so I can imagine how hard it must be for it to be continuing on for this long. {{{{{hugs}}}}}}

Just been out to a Mexican restaurant - yummy! Pigged out and had 3 courses and now feel v v stuffed!!

Hi all

XS - Thanks for that, yes Dr did say (in a funny kind of way) that it was a shame it wasnt Pyloric stenosis (sp?) as it would have been sorted with an operation. Although I didnt think that at the time when they thought it might have been (6 weeks old) I am ashamed to say I do now agree with him as didnt think Reflux would be so bad. Dare I say, seems to be a bit better today - not sure if Reflux comes in waves?
FPud - Pinning all my hopes on solids! Although managed to make him sick yesterday by trying to give him rusk mixed with milk! I dont know if he just didnt like it or he couldnt cope with the tiny tiny lumps, but choked abit then blur!

Did anyone like the link to the Daisy Root shoe website - I have a DR obsession now - been looking forward to payday again so I can buy some more! Just bought Roo a jumperoo (name suits him to a T!), and now going to buy him a Baby Einstein Activity Centre , just hope I can keep hold of it til Xmas!
sorry about the overoveruse of !!!!!

splat: it took a while for solids to reduce sickness! And she does still have her moments! Def comes in waves in my experience though!
as for daisy roots, they kept falling off evie but then everything does,think she must still have tiny feet!

JeanieJingleBells- Ill be 30 on 7th Jan also. All ive come up with is a spa day for me and 2 friends, it was that or a fancy dress pub crawl.

I wrote my letter to work on Friday, Ive requested to return for a 4 day week but it means my salary will go down by £300 per month which seems a lot and I keep thinking is it worth the loss in salary for just 1 day but ive told mil now as she is worrying about having them both so I have to do 4 days now.
My pay has gone down to SMP now and we are broke as dh?s exhaust just went on his car which is £680!!!! Just what we needed over xmas. Weve never really been short of money and now having just £400 pay per month is so depressing esp with xmas parties and presents to buy.

Twinklemegan ? No wonder your still at the birth you had. I cant really offer anything im afraid as both my labours were under 7hrs and pretty uneventful, I hope you feel better about it all soon.

Splatteredsnowball ?I hope your DS gets treatment soon and starts to improve

IamBlossom- Ds only sleeps for ½ hr as well. He has to nap every 2 hrs otherwise he is so tired and then he only sleeps for 30 mins no matter how tired he was.

Ds wouldn?t settle tonight for some reason, ive tried 3 times to put him down and the last time he was kicking and crying when normally if you cwtch him in he goes straight off to sleep without a fight. I hope the rest of the night goes ok.

Sympathies to all those coping with reflux. Leo is a sicky baby, but doesn't seem to bother him thank goodness.

Leo is just not settling tonight. He hasn't slept at all all day apart from falling asleep when feeding and waking when put down Poor little bugger is so overtired.