July 2006.....and they all roll over......

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Ladies, thought I would do the new thread as the other one is taking forever to load up.

Evening ladies

Firstly-welcome babalon I lurk on the bitchy threads and am at some of them especially the Nuchal result ones.

Also, welcome to caygill and congratulations.

Soooo many posts today and most of them contain the current black words of DH and sex.

at the BF in the Drs incident-how dare that woman say anything Obviously not a mother!

Hugs and lots of sympathy to all of you having a rough life at the mo. My &^%$£"£% DH has worked the last 3 weekends and every night until at least 8pm. Last night I had to take Marmalade to the vet as he had been fighting and had an infected absess which needed bursting. Appointment was at 6-30pm so asked if he could possibly come home to look after the girls-not on his life so I had Sophie in one hand and Marmalade in the other (both in carry cases) and a wild, tired 3 year old DD1. Got home at 7-20pm as kept waiting-DH was home so what did he do? Show DD1 how to play games on the Playstation! So I gave Sophie some food and still they sat and waited for their tea and played games. I still had to get some tea. Then today was his day off and I was told to collect the cat at 11-30am which is in the middle of DD1's dance class so I asked DH if he could collect the cat but no-he was going into work! Had to ask SIL to take DD1 to dancing. DH then phoned at 1pm and said he was going to be late. Came home and straight on the Playstation with DD1 a la last night.

Sophie has been sleeping badly since weaning. Last night was up 4 times and the night before she was constipated so screaming for a long time. I am still getting over my sickness bug so am shattered. DH is nagging about sex and said he will go elsewhere. I have been grateful for the fact that I sicked up my Monday Pill and you have to wait a week until you are safe but sadly time is running out.

On a different note now I have got that off my udders-Sophie cannot sit up at all and is not rolling over. She does lay on her side though so shouldn't be long.

Wallace-Leo is gorgeous

Sophie is 5 months on Monday so will try and put some more piccies on.

If you have got this far you deserve a medal. Had better go as DH coming off the Playstion in a mo to watch the Come Dancing results.

Enjoy the rest of the weekend. What would I do without you lovely ladies?

xxx

P.S. Does anyone know where Nuria is?????

Frosty at saying he would go elsewhere: Cheeky fecker!!!!!!!!!!!!

For got to say wallace before sorry Leo is beautiful!! Fab pics!

Xmasstocking - I dumped my issues with the birth on MN a while back. link to thread if you're bored anytime
My OP pretty much describes it. Basically, after talking it through with other MNs, I've come to the conclusion that it was the first midwife's refusal to give me pain relief that made me completely panic which made everything 10 times worse. Also I think LO went posterior very early on which would explain why I was in so much pain. I won't bore everyone with any more details here, but it is not something I want to go through ever again.
I have discussed this with DH and he does understand to a point, though I think he's having trouble understanding the link with sex. He's been very patient but I have a feeling that is running out now. Our rows wouldn't be so bad - they're not usually about serious issues - but everytime things get heated he threatens to walk out - don't think he's serious but I'm afraid it'll only take me to snap 'go on then' one time and the s**t will really hit the fan.
Sorry for moaning, on a brighter note Aidan sat upright for a few seconds today without me supporting him. He's only 17 weeks and I'm so proud of him. We have issues with naps here too. It's been getting worse the last week or so. He just fights sleep so much and, as MaeWest said, it gets worse as the day goes on. Thankfully he's usually OK at night though, once he settles.
Sorry for the long post and for dumping my problems on you lot. MN is terrific therapy!

OMG, just noticed the time when I saw my post go up. I'm off to bed!!

Twinkle - poor you - have had a quick read of your post and am at how you were treated. Have you had any counselling etc? It seems to me that until you can come to terms with what happened, you won't be able to move on. My labour was so much more painful than I had imagined, the pain was all in my back and I had very little let up between contractions - turns out Josh was facing backwards - so you are probably right about that.

Frosty - can't believe your DH said he will go elsewhere - my DH says that too but jokingly (hopefully!) Why can't men be more understanding? Is it just my DH or do all men seem to think that life will just carry on as normal after you have had a baby?

Wallace - fab photos - v cute!

Babalon - I chickened out at the hairdressers and just had it trimmed - turns out I didn't have my usual hairdresser so didn't want to risk anything with a new one. Am very pleased with the colour though - I had a very bad experience with colour 2 years ago and it has taken until now to pluck up the courage to have it done again. And it was lovely to be able to spend 3 hours on me, sit and read magazines etc - definitely go and book an appointment and have some 'me' time.

I have got the Annabel Karmel book and it does look fab - I particularly like the happy and sad faces which you tick if they like the food (or not!). I bought some of her freezer trays (missed them in the Boots sale though ) which are good as they come with a wipe-clean pen so you can write on the top what the food is and when you made it (particularly as I suspect all baby food looks quite similar )

Yes, my DS also turned back to back in labour, and my contraction has very little break between, at one point they wanted to inject my uterus with something to relax it?!?!? NEver heard of such a thing. I think I am going to request to see my notes and have them talk through it with me, they did some things which I am pretty sure verge on malpractice!

I feel a lot better today, probably because I can fit into a dress I couldnt fit into a month ago... see, it IS comnig off slowly.

Had a long talk with DH this morning, am exhausted. I dont know if I got through to him tho cos he still said "why dont you go back to work for 2 days a week, and I will kick back 2 days at home?" KICK BACK!?!?!?!?!?

men.

Wallace, he is completely adorable!!! Just too cute.

Krimbo, the bandage thing sounds tricky, hopefully it all heals well and quickly. S has excema so I have to moisturise him a couple of times a day to keep it in check, at least it is easy to do I guess.

He is 20 weeks now, where does the time go?
Sleeping patterns still bad woke up so many times last night I really hope the weaning helps, will need to get myself geared up for that to start next month.

Happy Sunday

sleep, frosty - men are shit but i think im the wrong person to have an opinion!

Aparently hes having it off with someone else but really dont care anymore.

Jake is ok. He stands for ages with me holding his hands and he sways his bottom to keep balanced its so cute.

dont know how old jake is - he was born 3rd july...erm..

xmas stocking - the annabel cube things are ok, but the lids dont stay on, and when i wrote on it, the frost went over the lid and wiped it all off!

Babalon..you wanted to hear my birth story..it's pretty boring though..no juicy bits. baby was due 22 jul and around 3pm on the 22nd my waters broke..not a gush..more a trickle. we had just got back from the shops and i had just stepped out the car and felt water running down my leg so ran into the house and straight to the bathroom. went to hospital but wasn't having any contractions..a young mw asked if my waters had broke or if it was just a show? as it's my 1st i didn't know, thought it was more than just a show but she said she didn't know...how was i supposed to know if she didn't??? anyway more experienced mw came to examine me, saw my pants and said my waters had def broke and i would have to have a trace. everything ok so went home, had few mild contractions from 5pm and all night so used my hired tens machine. went in on sun am to have trace again..was 3cm but still not "active labour" so was ok to come home. went in 6am on mon am as was feeling stronger contractions and didn't really know how strong they were going to get. got to hospital was only 4cm but was kept in as they would have to induce me as it was nearly 48hrs since my waters had gone. so lay on the bed from about 9am attached to a heart monitor and a drip to induce my labour. earlier that morning babies heart rate dropped a bit but they said it came back so not to worry,then at around 12pm it dropped to 40bpm so we got a bit worried and they got me ready fo a c section...a guy came in and put a clip on her head and then everything went back to normal and calmed down. Had pethadine at 7pm and amy was born at 9pm. Her heart wasn't beating when she came out so they gave compressions and oxygen and after the longest 2mins she started crying. the guy had attached the clip to me instead of her head so the monitor had been reading my heart instead of hers and she decided to poo inside of me also so came out covered in poo! that's about it..she slept most of the next 24hrs so took a while to get the hang of bf but we are pretty sorted now.

God it seems like a few of us had bad labours!
Maybe we should start a bad labour experience thread to get it all off our chests

Just a quicky left DP trying to settle DD! Had 5 hours sleep last night as LO decided at 2am it was time to play and continued this until at least 3.30 when I fell asleep. I woke up at 8 went in to check on her and she was lying there wide awake!!! Tried to keep her routine today bet she was SO grumpy hohum!

OOOHHHH Lost tonight! DP off tonight and tomorrow so think we may kick back with a glass of rose if she ever falls asleep!!!!
Laters

twink - really important to talk about it and come to terms with your labour, sounds like you had a really tough time. No wonder you don't fancy sex at the moment! I find the getting up at three in the morning, cleaning up puke and shit etc doesn't do much for the libido either.

hello twinkle - it sounds like you had a very bad experience. I hope it has helped to talk it through and hear other peoples experiences. I think it will take a bit of time to recover physically and mentally. to be continued.....

Hi girls,

Just a quick one. Figgy- Is it you that is near to Birmingham? We went there today to do some Xmas shopping and I wanted to go to Bull Ring, but we drove round everywhere and couldn't find it. How bad? Is it in the town centre. We saw a couple of AA signs and followed them, but we still couldn't see it?

Catch up properly later,

Love

Jeanie
XX

evening ladies!!

junior is lying on knees at the moment staring at me and just giving me the cutest smiles and making me laugh!!!

have had a nice relaxing day!! woken up by ds at 8am and we both went back to bed around 10 and slept till 11.30am whilst dp looked after dd.

have to admit, me and dp have been having a lot of fun in bed since the post birth bleed finished and been enjoying the closeness!( im not boasting!)

but to all you ladies who are having a bad time, listen to your body and only do what you think is right and if you feel right!! don't be pushed into things you dont want to do otherwise you'll only feel even worse!!

i have to admit my relationship with my dp is getting stronger and i love him more everyday!! its so wierd because i got pregnant very soon after we started seeing eachother and only really got to know him whilst i was pregnant with dd.

we used to work together and were having a fling and my friends didnt like him because of gossip at work but when i started to get to know him better, he was a completely different person and has been a great partner and dad!! i wouldnt change it for the world, despite what some people had to say!!

well better go and get junior ready for bed so i can have some peace and quiet and read my book!!

have a nice evening all!!xx

everyone was against

jjbells - the bullring is in the middle of birmingham I've not been to it since selfridges opened. It isn't me who lives near birmingham btw!

had to go earlier, it has been interesting for me reading other peoples stories. I don't think anyone can prepare you for the experience of labour - I'm not sure I believe people who have natural, magicaland pain free labours.
I remember clearly needing to talk to people about my labour for weeks after the birth which must be part of the healing process.
At the moment I feel like time is accelerated for me whereas for other people it is at a normal pace. 6 months used to seem like a long time before my dd arrived now I can't quite believe she is heading towards being 6 months old. I feel sure friends must think I have disappeared, it is so hard to stay in touch with people.
my birth story - I had had a few twinges before I thought labour had started properly. It began 8 days after my due date at 7am and continued through the day gradually getting stronger. Iused a tens machine at first which by the afternoon I had begun to find irritating like someone prodding my back repeatedly - I guess everything is sensitised. I had 6 paracetamol all day, I was very sick had diarrohea sp! and felt pretty ill. I was inside wrtihing in pain whilst my dp was mowing the lawn and couldn't hear me. Idid start to feel frightened then and thought it sensible to ask him to come inside- this was at about5.30 pm. the contractions were very intense and about 10 mins apart - we decided to go for a walk then which speeded everything up. we kept ringing the hospital to get advice and were toldto stay at home until I felt I couldn't take any more pain. I think we eventually left home at about 9.30pm - forgot the notes and had to turn back - then contractions were evry 3 mins. I had my eyes shut by that point an dfor most of the labour - I couldn't bear to be touched - I didn't like my dh holding my hand. Shotly after arriving at hospital I was fully dilated and ready to start pushing. dd was eventually born after about 2 hrs labour with ventouse and help from a doctor. I am so glad I was in hospital...

I do remember the fear which I think never quite leaves you. I was very scared of giving birth - I am thinking of this now as I write.

I feel so lucky that my dd is so healthy and that I am alright afterwards. I am actually scared of having another one in case anything goes wrong - does anyone else understand? I feel I owe my dd a sibling.... I am actually quite anxious about this as I should have another one in the next couple of years.

sorry a bit of a ramble. had a difficult day with dd. She had injections a few days ago and has been crying most of the day...

sex - I'm afraid I'm a complete prude and can't write anything about that sort of thing...I should grow up, everyone must know that I have sex.

Hi all
Twink - Hi havent chatted to you before, but have been reading posts re labour stories and being OP..... I was unfortunate enough to have an OP baby all the way thro preg and labour.

Aquanatel classes really helped plus physio. Found out afterwards that my "irregular contractions" was my body trying to turn baby ready for birth - although he didnt turn til very last bit, and then came out with his hand against his cheek! Wish I knew that about irregular contractions before they sent me home from hosp saying "you cant possibly be in labour as your contractions would be bang on every X min and you would be climbing the walls!!"... 1 hour later after being vol sick at home I was back in the ward and was 8cm dilated!!Hmmmm 4 car journeys on all fours was v interesting!!

Although I suffered severe back pain all way to end (had to employ back rubbers during labour), plus stomach muscles seperated (diastasis (sp?!))actual labour wasnt that bad... only had gas and air at 8 cm once I returned to hosp and birthing pool - until had to evacuate due to meconium in waters. I think being able to bear pain was only due to waters cushioning the contractions and NOT laying on my back - waters only broke during very last stage I was soo away with fairys tho, that I thought it was DS being born!! If only!! Total labour was 10pm Sat thro to 7.44pm Sun so I guess I was pretty lucky really - his horrendous reflux is making up for it now tho but thats a whole differnt story.

KrimKZ - considering Cranial oest as reflux is so bad now, cant even put dummy in his mouth without him puking - now on carobel and gaviscon. Really worried about the state of his throat tho as he has terrible dry cough - which usually leads to him being sick - and has now lost his voice twice in as many weeks. Puking back whole bottle (I know coz i catch it) sometimes as many as 4 times a day and now crying when sees bottle. He has first half lovely, but second half is nightmare. He has only put on 4.5oz in 2 weeks which is really unusual for him....its really getting to me and DP now. Did cranial help your Roshi at all??? Just cant understand how it could help, if prob is related to loose muscle at top of stomach? Have deferred work and nursery til April, as just cant see how it would work, when usually re-feeding him by at least 9am every morning. Hows your LO going with reflux...soo envious of "normal" babies, would do anything to be able to put him down after feeding, instead of a stressful 45mins with a jug under his chin! sorry miserable rant over.....