July 2006.....and they all roll over......

[xmasstocking]

Ladies, thought I would do the new thread as the other one is taking forever to load up.

goodmorning ladies!!

thanks for they new thread xmas!!

junior gave me a fright yesterday!! we were eating ommlette for lunch yesterday and dp must have tried junior to taste some. well dp went after eating and about 10 mins later junior kept rubbing his face.

within 10 minutes his face started swelling and getting all blotchy!!! i freaked out not know what it was at first, i tried call dp to come home but he'd left his phone at home!! everyone else i called didnt pick up and i started to panic!!

turned to mn, got nhs number and was told to go a&e. dp came home and we went and had to wait bloody 3 hours to be seen by gp who advised to avoid eggs till he's a bit older!!

it was how fast his face swelled that freaked me out! i hope that never happens again!!!

dd just made a mess of the dvds so better go and tidy! hope you all and your babas have a good day

xx

Morning - DH took Friday off so was working most of the weekend (what's that all about?). So me and the boy went out and about, met a friend for coffee yesterday afternoon and DS was flirting outrageously with the whole room . Put him down for a nap just before 9am today and heard lots of grumbling. I thought, ooh better finish my toast and go and tend to him, but just as I was wiping the crumbs from my hands, it all went quiet. Checked and fast asleep cuddled up with his fluffy cow, result! He woke up as I was getting into bed at 10.30 last night so thought I'd feed him to see if it would make him sleep through. No chance, just woke at 2am rather than 1am! Oh well, maybe one day...

Oh and HC - I've dropped the xmas name for the mo because I'm in denial that it's coming, also kept spelling it wrong when logging in, will resurrect on 1 Dec.

Morning ladies
Had a nice quiet weekend, recovering from a very busy week last week. Lots of unaccustomed activity, including a long lunch with the postnatal ladies on Weds, toddler group followed by a bit of shopping on Thurs, a (drunken ) night out on Thurs with the girls from work, NCT talk (with hangover and 30 grumbling babies, ouch) in town on Fri followed by Christmas shopping. I don?t usually do half of that, am usually very lazy but am going to try and make the effort to get to more toddler groups etc while still on leave, partly for me but mainly to try and get Emma used to the environment before she goes to nursery.

Prettymum how scary. Hope Junior is okay now.

Re bottle quantities, I can?t really help much as haven?t tried ff apart from the two disastrous episodes which I haven?t dared try again. When drinking EBM she has about 4-5oz a feed (she usually feeds about 6-7 times a day but don?t know how much she?s drinking during each bf). She started fussing badly again towards the end of last week ? I think my supply was affected again by going out so much last week and lack of routine so will have to be disciplined about rest, feed timings and expressing again (yawn).

Well better get on, take care all and have a good day x

Afternoon all

Woke up with a sickness bug so feel dreadful. Was going to SIL's for the day so took DD1 out of nursery so have them both to sort out. Every time I stand I feel as though I am going to pass out. Am frozen so have lit a coal fire.

Sophie woke even earlier at 3.30am so dreading tonight.

DH said there is nothing he can do about it and I will have to just get on with it! He retired to bed when he had it in July!

Hope Junior is OK today-bless him. What a shock!

Love to all

xxx

Hi all,

Prettymum- Hope Junior is ok. You must have been terrified.

Frosty- Hope you feel better soon. If I could come and help you I would. Hopefully it will only last for the day and you'll be back on track tomorrow.

I am in the process of stopping BF at the mo. I'm a little bit sad about it, but Abbey prefers a bottle so much more than my boob. She is like a different baby. She seems so much more happy and content. Do you think I was starving her? I hope not, feel very guilty.

I haven't even started Christmas shopping yet as I don't know what to get for DC's. DS wants a new bike as his was stolen from outside our house during the summer, so he is easily sorted, but DD1 doesn't have a clue what she wants. I think that means she obviously has far too many toys!

Abbey has just woken up again. She only does short power naps, so see ya'll laters

Love
Jeanie
xx

KZ - I promise we won't start a new thread until all the lo's have rolled over - more wishful thinking on my part as Josh is getting as far on his side as he possibly could but not going any further

Hi all

How good was lost!! Suffering today tho as I'm knackered!!!
Not much happening here! Evie had a couple of really good giggling fits today, you know the sort which would make us hyperventilate or wet ourselves! It was great but no one else around to see it!
Anyhow going to go now and get ready for bed as I'm sooo tired!
Night all
Jane

Sounds scary prettymum- glad he's okay! Just checking in, and posting so this thread comes up threadsim on.

Morning girls

Prettymum,god you must have been scared witless,glad he's ok now xx

Eilidh is rolling onto her side but like xmasstocking getting no further lol.She has been unwell again with a cold(passed on from big sis again)and have had a few crappy nights but hey i'm used to it now cos she's the 4th.

Well i have booked the weding in Gretna Green and have also booked the hotel so it appears I AM GETTING MARRIED !!!!!! God i get a wobbly feeling when i have to say the words.I will either laugh or cry my way thru the vows i'm sure.Our eldest is the best man and the youngest ds is going to give me away.The dd's will be flower girl and flower baby.Mum is my matron-of-honour so it'll be a family affair.

Oh Eilidh awake so better dash.Hope you are all ok xx

Sounds lovely algach

How scary for you prettymum, glad Junior is ok now.

DS is also not a roller yet, prob something to do with his increasing porkiness . He twists his top half over to reach for things and can wriggle himself off his mat but his bum usually stays static.

Jeanie, well done for bf, I'm sure you weren't starving her. Think bf is hard work for some babies, so drinking from a bottle means they can guzzle quicker, glad the transition is going well

Aaaw agalch, sounds fab!!

Emma showing no signs of rolling yet either, can?t blame it on porkiness as she?s quite a slim little thing, she?s obviously just too laid back! She has tummy muscles I?m very envious of though as she does loads of bicycling in the air

Frosty ? hope you?re feeling better today, you?ve had quite a few weeks of it now

Jeanie - Don?t feel guilty, just because she?s taking formula doesn?t mean she wasn?t happy before, like Mae said it?s easier for them to suck from bottles so that?s probably the only reason she seems to prefer it

Mae ? hope your brother is enjoying his visit and spending time with his little nephew

Oh lord after my post yesterday I decided to try formula just once more to make sure the last two times weren?t a coincidence. So gave her 1oz of Aptimil out of a newly opened tetrapak (so definitely not ?off?) in a very sterile bottle ? result was a 2 hour pukefest again. Exactly the same as last 2 times, she was okay for 2 hours afterwards then loads of vomiting (about 10 times) during the next couple of hours ? surely that can?t be normal? She sicked up her next bf as well and was white as a sheet through most of the vomiting time. And to top it off the dog started freaking out and vomiting in sympathy Like the last times she was fine after a couple of hours thankfully. So no formula at nursery then, I?ll either have to try and wean her or rely on EBM ? a bit tricky as I?m rubbish at expressing.

Oh can hear her making pterodactyl noises upstairs - have good days everyone xx

Kayzed- I bf DD until I went back to work at 5 1/2 months, This time I just found it so much more difficult because only I can feed her and with DD to look after it would be nice if DH could help out, also due to the number of times hes waking at night I am kinda hoping it may stop them. I don?t know its a difficult choice to make. Another reason is also with xmas parties coming up I cant express all the milk needed and he would have to have formula then anyway, plus I start work on 22nd jan and was thinking of weaning him onto formula by a feed a week with would take a good 6 weeks. But then again I do enjoy bf and its easier and cosier. At the moment im still coming up with excuses not to ff todays is ? he was sicky yesterday and so I don?t want to upset his tummy again and hes due his injections tomorrow and will want the comfort? DH thinks ill still be coming up with reasons to bf in January!
Frosty ? so does that mean I still have 2 more Losts to watch?
Twinklemegan- Thanks for the link 3- 4 ozs is about right then as he has approx 8 feeds a day and they say 25ozs is the average per day.

Ds isn?t giggling or laughing yet, he does a silent laugh. We also get the short power naps every 2 hrs he has 30 mins sleep which gives me enough time to run about cleaning etc before hes awake again.

Anyones lo?s still need cuddling to sleep? Im worrying about creating a rod.

Agalch- the wedding sounds fab

FestiveAtForty ? have you tried cow and gate comfort- its meant to be gentle on their tummy. I get the same thing if I overfeed ds. Sometimes I mistake him crying for hunger and feed him which the little piggy takes but he then spends all day doing little bits of sick. Yesterday he was sick countless times all over my shoulders, coat, skirt and himself so we both smelt lovely!

HMM .. last night was a feed at 7 bed at 7.15, then another feed at 10.30, 1.30 he woke at 3am and I just reswaddled him and a feed at 4.30 where he wouldn?t settle but did the minute he came to bed. Its not fair

by the way that should be only I can feed him. he hasnt suddenly had a sex change

kbaby - lol at sex change! Sometimes DS needs cuddling to sleep during the day, especially if he's got himself completely wired. He tends to feed to sleep at his 7pm feed as he's worn out at the end of the day. I don't think it's a problem right now, or that you're creating a dependent baby. Once he's a strapping toddler, maybe different .

I've started taking him out in the buggy and if he drifts of in the last 10 mins or so, I take him upstairs and settle him down. Sometimes it works and he'll suck his thumb and go for 45 mins or so. Othertimes of course he wakes after 5 mins screaming his head off because he's freaked out. Ho hum...

hello everyone.

please dont talk to me about rolling over, jake wakes me up every 15minutes every night cause hes rolled over into the edge of the cot or stuck his arm out of the cot...he used to be so good.

everything shitty here! still not so good from having the abortion 4 weeks ago, still period type pains and that.

work was horrible, and i have to work out how much i have/will earn for this tax year so i can get tax credits. if i get it wrong i will have to pay it back in april and god knows what sort of position i'll be in financially next year.

I've applied for a council house, but round here i could be waiting a long time! i think i will have to get my mum to throw me out and live in a B&B or hostel for a while with jake. i cant stay here for too much longer, we're going mad and i dont know how long we stan stay civil for.

i cant afford anywhere to live around here privately, i would have to go to the nearest city and live on the outskirts, which is pretty scary for me ive only lived in nice houses in a quiet town where my whole family live.

anyways better go i need to cut jakes nails hes scratching the hell out of me!
xx

Koshka - I sympathise with the housing situation. We do own a house (just got on the ladder b4 prices rocketed), but we're mortgaged to the hilt in a TINY cottage . It's a complete nightmare with DS as well, but we can't afford anywhere bigger. Hope you get something sorted.

Aidan has stopped rolling again now - he seems much more interested in finding his vocal range and using his little hands.

Can a baby 'outgrow' bf, mentally I mean? Aidan goes in fits and starts. When he's all cute and babyish he'll still suck away quite happily. But when he's in a more fidgety mood, most of the time now, he's taken to sucking for a minute then grinning at me & chatting, or blatantly sucking his thumb instead! He also loves trying to hold his bottle himself and directing it to his mouth (or up his nose!). I also wonder if this means he's going to be ready soon to have a go with solids rather than wait till 6 months.

Evening all

Hi Koshka, good to hear from you but sorry things aren't going well for you! Is there no way your mom can say shes either kicked/or will kick you out so you get a house? Have you spoke to HV about how you're feeling and your situation? Could she not write a supporting leeter to the council?

Went to a BF support group today! They are really hot on it around here as our local MP Dave Kidney campaigns for rights and stuff! Anyhow ended put dishing out more advice than I recieved! Went to get advice about LO's boob sleep prob and they were like Hey thats OK if its what she needs, I was like what about my needs and going back to work! ho Hum!
Going to brave going to Brum on Thursday but We've decided to get the train insted of the nightmare that is the M6! Dreaded xmas shopping for DP's family who have everything! So that will be an experience I'm sure!
Speak soon all, off to wrap final pressies of mine ! Thorntons as well drool my way through it then
Jane

koshka, sorry to hear about your housing probs, hope you get it sorted, must be tough

twinkle - think it's quite common at this age for babies to start losing focus during bf, mainly because they're much more aware of the world around them. At the weekend I was sat next to DH on the sofa whilst feeding and DS kept trying to crane himself round to chat to his dad. He also grins and chuckles (meaning he falls off). My hv suggested going somewhere quieter to feed or wearing a brightly patterned top to attract the babe's attention . Don't think self-weaning truly happens until they are much older (sometime between 2 and 4 yrs). Sounds lovely that your DS enjoys your company so much

hi everyone

sorry to hear you're having a tough time, koshka, hugs to you.

xmasstocking, good idea doing a new thread!

prettymum, hope junior is ok now, what a scare.

Frosty hope you feel better soon.

kayley has rolled from her back to her side loads of times, but that was about a week ago and she hasn't done it since... quickly got bored of that one! she's been very fretful the last few days, I think she has lots of excess wind or something. she nearly always needs to be cuddled to sleep, usually as I'm asleep myself...
she keeps trying to sit up too, and loves it when I pull her up by the hands, and she's never happier than when she's propped up on the sofa watching DS up to his tricks. Thinking of weaning her soon, she seems very hungry, and not satisfied after drinking 8 oz. Is four months too early?? She still wakes at least once in the night, usually twice.
Been away for a week, so haven't had time to catch up with everyone else, hope you're all doing ok. Must go, chocolate cheesecake awaits...

Annie

Hi there again
Have you seen this thread
What a great idea!!
Algach you should def put your name down with your farepak incident you really deserve it! Have you heard any more about that by the way?

koshka - wish there was an easy solution to your housing situation. I understand completely about you wanting to stay in your town. We are staying in our small house (3 kids, 2 bedrooms!) because there is no way we will get another council house in our village, and we like living here!

Leo is so close to rolling over. He goes right onto his side from his back.

kbaby - Leo still needs to be fed to sleep at night, and some nights (like tonight!) it can take three tries of putting him down asleep before he settles. Half of me thinks I am "making a rod for my own back" the other half thinks, to hell with it he is my last baby and babies need comfort, and I fed the other 2 to sleep and they're fine! Luckily this half of me is dominant, so I am carrying on feeding him to sleep.

hi all...

Pretty, how TERRIFYING! Hope he is all recovered now.
good luck, koshka...

S rolls from his back to his front a lot, but not the other way round. He also stops BF to gaze at me, smile, giggle etc!!!

He does proper belly laughs now, too cute...
No other news this time, just wanted to pop in and say hi...

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