September 2006 Babies - growing in front of our eyes!

[Lysettes]

New thread everyone!

just added some more recent pics to the yahoo site..

What is this yahoo site? Would love to see piccies.

hi cruisemum - we set up a yahoo site to put pictures of us and the babies on back in August. I haven't a clue how to give you a link to it, but one of the other more technical people can!! Liquidclocks has done a link to it before, and Marls set it up, so hopefully one of them will come along in a bit and help you!

Going to go feed small baby now and then retreat to bed in hope of a whole night's sleep...

Anyone else finding it hard waking up at 7ish and it's still pitch dark? Still feels like the middle of the night!! Before I realised what time it was this morning, I heard DS1 singing to himself in his room and nearly went in to tell him to be quiet as it was still night time. It was in fact time to get up...

Clairmow - ta I shall await a technical mum to give me the link. Anyone know where Pol and Lysettes have disappeard to???

I appologise for gatecrashing your thread but I urge you all to look at this artical about the risk of cot death in car seats for young babies.

Having seen my baby go blue in a car seat (she was awake at the time, and is fine now) I urge you all to use car seats for their purpose - safely restraining your baby in the car. A travel system may be convenient and it may mean your baby can see you in their pushchair, but it is nowhere near as safe for them as laying them flat in a pram or pushchair. Please think about if you use your travel system on each occasion.

I am sorry if it sounds like I am shouting but seeing a baby go blue is scary. There is another thread which also has some other comments on .

Slightlymad - I have just read your thread - S*. My ds has his best naps there! I have just put him down in his pram, on his back and he is sleeping soundly..... Thanks.

pitachio - hope your dd is improving - big hugs.
slightlymad - haven't looked at the article yet, but personlly I hate to see people pushing babies round scrunched up in car seats, so hopefully it will raise awareness.
I have been ill again - whatever it is, i don't seem to be able to shake it off. been in bed since yesterday afternoon. I think it may just be tiredness, dehydration and not eating properly that's taking it's toll.

mabel - take care of yourself. big hugs

hi all,

Going out for dh birthday never happened after all that fuss MIL is ill with some sort of bug.So we just went out for something to eat, ds stayed with me all night after i worried myself about it.

Had a nice easy day today dd and ds away for the weekend so spent most of the day with ds2, which has been lovely dont get much time with him when all 3 of them are here.

Ds went down at 9.00 and should sleep through even though he has a chest infection at the moment. Have not been getting much sleep because of all the coughing he does i have to keep checking him worried in case he chokes and i dont hear him.

kseaj - im happy to hear the ds2 was with you afterall. i can't imagine leaving mine with anyone just yet, especially overnight! tomorrow is my dh's 30th bd, not planning anything out, however, as i'm a chef by trade, i'm going to put something nice together for him...well, that is, if i can pull away from DS for long enough! Doing the cheesecake first...the most important part! ha!

Last night, DH went out to play poker with his buddies...which is never an issue. when he returned at about 1am, he found me still awake as i had only JUST managed to settle ds to sleep for the night!!! i dont think i've ever seen ds fight sleep so much! and of course, i've started him back in the basket so laying him down in it while sleeping was a problem...then it was the hiccups to wake him, 5th attempt i think it was gas. finally, i think he gave in and went to sleep around the 7th attempt! ha!

but he woke, AGAIN, about 15 minutes later. but to my massive shock , DH came in and MADE me lay back down and he took over. i couldn't freaking believe it!! took ds downstairs, winded him, changed him, fed him with sma i had prepared, and put him to sleep with him!! !

i think i was awakened by ds crying his little head off downstairs this morning, i dont know for how long, to be honest, as i was in SUCH a deep sleep! ((forgot what that felt like!)) hubby was sleeping next to him and wasnt even awakened by it... kinda scary. but anyways, took ds upstairs, fed him and put him bakc in basket...and he's been asleep there ever since...even now! ((and its 10am!))

supposr i should wake them both up after i relax a little more and have my coffee...we're heading to wales today to visit DH's long lost, estranged mum. wish me luck. heheheh

happy sunday ladies.

Guess we must all be busy with dh and lo's today. I am starting Baby Whisper sleep thingy tonight. Wish me luck! I jsut hope it doesn't hamper dd's chances of sleep... Any top tips from those who have had success by it? bedtimes have become a real issue with ds only settling with being rocked or on the breast then he wakes as soon as he is in the cot. . He has also started waking in the night again too after sleeping for around 8 - 10 hrs at night.
Gonna start using it for daytime naps tomorrow too. Want to get this sorted this week as dd breaks up on Friday and it is not going to work me hauling her out of bed everymorning to take ds for a drive so that he can nap . Feel kind of scared.....
Munki - keep up with the moses basket thing - I wil be thinking of you. Enjoy your dinner - esp cheesecake

Oh My God! I am having the most horrendous night ever. I decided to try Baby Whisperer methods of getting ds to sleep without being bf/rocked to sleep. all started well, bath, b at 6:30pm He was asleep on boob by 6:45pm so Imoved u/s to cot where I placed him slightly roused awake. He has been screaming the place down since. i have sat by his cot, shhd, patted, pupd. He is not giving in. I so want to bf and pacify him to sleep but that would mean the last 2hrs have been heartache for nothing. I am on the verge of tears here. it is breakig my heart but I don't know if I should give in. Is it supposed to be this hard? Her methods look so friendly and calm. God! What am I doing. I hate this. Help. Tell me if I ma doing the right thing/

Cruise - I was just scanning and wasn't going to post tonight but can see you need some support. It is hard and yes, it sounds so easy when you read it in books - the whole language of 'settling to sleep' sounds so gentle - yet the reality is much different. All I can say is that I've done it with both my babies and it's worked but the first night is always hard. Give yourself 4/5 days and nights of trying and keep telling yourself it's not forever and that wat you're doing will benefit you and them long term by teaching them good sleeping habits. If tonight the crying lasts 3-4 hours then there's probably some genuine hunger so do feed him again around 10.30pm and hopefully he'll drop off. IME the second night is only slightly less bad but night 3 you'll see a real change.

BUT if after doing this tonight you decide you're not ready to follow through then stop and don't do it - if you 'give in' before it's worked then all the crying really is for nothing and then it's not worth going through. It doesn't stay this hard though, promise. Big hugs!

Also, I didn't do the shhing and patting, I think that would have actually kept them awake but especially in your case, he can probably smell the milk on you - is your mum still there, could she do a 'shift'?

liquid - thank you so very much for your support. My ma went home on Fri and dh returned from Singapore. We were really set on doing this BW thing and to work as a team. Thing is I never bargained on it being so hard emotionally (wot a wimp). It was awful plus I didn't know if we were doing things right. He was so upset and sobbing that it broke my heart and I knew that the solution was under my teeshirt! In the end I relented and offered the boob. He crashed out within two minutes and has been asleep since. (though for how long is anyones guess). Maybe I don't have the heart to do this even if it is for the long term good. I console myself with the fact that he will not be BF for ever and maybe I should cross this bridge when he is 6mts and on solids. I guess I am hoping the prob will go away but I hated hated hated seeing him so distressed.

hi Cruisemum,

Was doing the same as Liquid, having a glance through, but it sounds like you're having a mare. Are you sure DS isn't still hungry? When he has a full feed in the day how long does it take? I think you say he started feeding at 6.30 and was asleep on the boob by 6.45? Maybe he had dropped off, but hadn't had enough, and only realised that when you put him down? IME, the last feed of the day lasts a good half hour min (and Fraser's quite quick, DS1 was a good 3/4 hour), as supply is often lower by then as you've been feeding all day. So if your DS usually takes a good half hour, but has dropped off after 15 mins tonight, he may still be hungry. But if he normally feeds in 5 mins (which F does in the morning - gigantic boobs here first thing...!!) maybe he was full and needs "training" to learn to fall asleep.

Sorry, I don't think that's probably too helpful. I'm thinking of you and hope he drops off soon, if he hasn't already... xxx

footnote - ds slept till my alarm went off at 7 this morning

cruisemum - great to hear your ds slept well after all your efforts.
It is so hard, to be honest here Ds sometimes drops off on his own, but if I know he's tired and he won't sleep (usually if I've let him get overtired) i'll give him a bit of boob to help him, i don't think it hurts at this age. At the end of the day letting them cry for a few minutes is one thing, but there comes a point where you just have to say, ok this isn't working and give them what they want. .
well I am feeling better today thank goodness, felt rotten all weekend.
I ammaking a start on packing away the 3-6 months clothes and getting out DS1's old 6-9 months stuff as Ds2 is really that huge! Problem is DS1 was wearing shorts and T-shirts at 6-9 months, so it maybe a good excuse to go and buy him some new clothes all of his own instead of wearing hand-me-downs all the time!

Jack has chickenpox!!!

cori - oh god poor thing - you too

It's quite heartbreaking as he is obviously in some discomfort but he can't tell you & am having to second guess all the time! He has loads of spots in his head, on his bum & a horrible one just underneath his right eye.... Still, maybe in some respects it's good to get it out the way??

Oh no Cori Hope he feels better soon. I think it is better when they have it young (or so I've heard!).
Cruisemum - sorry to hear of your troubles in the evening.... hope tonight is going better

oh horrible - poor you Cori! Hopefully it'll clear up soon...

Cruise, don't give up.. hoping tonight goes easier for you....

I am knackered... We went to the zoo again today for lunch and then the afternoon for my friend's DD's birthday. DS2 didn't sleep all that well and so was tired and cranky, DS1 has a terrible cold, and so kept needing snot wiping off his nose/cheeks/chin! It was fun but really tiring...

Cruise - great that he slept until 7! I know you keeop getting random suggestions so feel free to ignore any yuo don't think are any good for you but have you tried some different shaped teats yet so you could give and EBM/formula feed before bed so you know he's fed well? Or you could try not feeding him after 3.15pm (my cut-off time) and then start the evening feed at around 6.15 to make sure he's had a good 45mins before bed - DS2 is FF now and still needs that long at the end of the day just because he's so tired.

Claire - is that bristol zoo you keep going to? I'd really like to take DS1 to a zoo soon, I'm sure he'd love it - our nearest one's in Blackpool thoug - a bit grim! I think I'll wait until a weekend at my parents and take him to Chester instead.

Cori - poor Jack! Hope he gets better quickly.

I met a lady today who I last met when I was about 6! Had a really lovely time and to top it off on my way home through town both boys went to sleep! Yay - I went 'proper' shopping and got myself some new boots