September 2006 Babies - growing in front of our eyes!

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New thread everyone!

ta for posts re: ds reluctance to go to bed! The problem is not that he is hungry but the fact that he will not settle in his cot - daytime or nighttime. Naps are not such a prob as we can have those in car seat if necessary or in his pram (though a nap in his cot would be heavenly)But he can be fast asleep at the boob and then when he is placed in cot (and I have tried numerous strategies here)he wakes and will not settle back down again. He won't fall asleep in there and after last night using BW I dunno what to do next. we have dd to consider as she has to be up for school and it is unfair on her. Aslo, my entire evenign from 6:30ish bathtime is taken up with ds. I have not had one evening to myself since ds's arrival because of this and I cannot see a way round it. I don't mind bf him to sleep if only he would stay asleep. It is a nightmare. dh is up there now but ds will not sleep . As for bottles/dummies (if only he would take a dummy) I have now got playtex bottle/teat but he hasn't a clue what to do with it! If he would take a bottle, he would take a dummy and vice versa but no such luck. Feeling quite desperate and frustrated...

pistachio - ta for support - I know that this phase will come to an end but I just cannot see how! Obvioulsy little man loves to be bf and hugged to sleep so that is not gonna get any better. I tried the tough love thing but I am not tough enough! WE have dd's carol concert tonight right during bedtime/marathon feed so that should be interesting in a church.... Oh hte joys of motherhood.....

Cruise - for you that nothing's working. There's a group of mums that have used the no-cry sleep solution and I think they have a support thread. I've never read it and don't know if it's intended for very small babies but it might be worth a go. From what I've heard it's just as hard work as any of the other methods but the focus is on 'no crying'.

Here DH lost his voice a few days ago and has given it to DS2! Poor little man, his cry is now so quiet and pathetic, melts my heart!

Hello,

Well we got back from Germany on Sunday night. We had a brilliant time, it was so good to get away. DS was not fazed at all by the taking off and landing of the plane which he either slept through or fed through. We even went out to a restaurant for dinner and he just lay in his pram looking at everything while we ate
The only downer is that he still wakes every 3 hours at night for a feed but hopefully this will lengthen a bit soon.
Cori- hope Jack gets better soon.
Cruise - I hope DS settles in cot better soon.

Morning all

Cori- I hope jack gets better soon, maybe it is better to get it out of the way now.

Cruise- I hope ds starts to settle soon I know how frustrating it can be dd would not settle in her moses basket at first I honestly thought she never would but it took about a week to get her to settle by herself. I used to put her in her moses basket in the day but let her see me and I would talk to her so think that helped her to feel comfortable in it. She used to scream her head off But now once I put her down she's asleep within 5 mins
Although I will be in your situation soon because she will not settle in her cot and I am going to start putting her to sleep in it this weekend because she is now getting too big for the moses basket her head and feet literally touching the ends. And she screams when I put her in there but I have no choice now. So the week of stress will be starting soon.

I have this horrible flu type bug it makes you feel so weak im so worried that dd catches it If it makes me feel so ill how will it make her feel?

Munkibaby hope you are well, Yeah dp finds this site amazing he thinks its really good that we can all talk and share our experiences so we are not alone. He thinks there should be a dadsnet And your dh must miss you at night but he wont say. Dp and me used to sleep with dd in the middle when she wouldnt settle it was a tight squeeze but at least we were all together

I was looking through dd's red book the other day and was looking at the growth chart she is way over the line that they say is normal growth rate I know you cant follow them to the T but she is growing extremely fast. She started wearing 3-6month clothing when she was about 7weeks
But I know she is going to be tall because I am 5'9 and dp is 6'3.

Hope everyone is well

Hi Liquid,
Just wanted to let you know the results for the blood tests came back and they were negative for arthritis and anything else. The pain is still there but at least I know its not arthritis. Just waiting patiently for the pain to subside for good. Thanks for all the advice.
Sorry havent been on yahoo much, to tell the truth I dont really know how it works
I would love to see all the pics of the lo's, if theres an easy way for you to show me how I would appreciate it. Hope you are well

hi everyone,

Redz, to get DD used to the cot, you could put the moses basket in the cot for a few days at naps/night, so that she gets used to seeing the bars before you take the basket away. You never know, it might work...

Cruise, sorry to hear it's still a mare for you. Have you tried putting a hot water bottle on the mattress before laying DS down so that it's warm, and you could also put a (worn!) top of yours in there so that he can smell you when he goes down.

Liquid, yes, it's Bristol zoo we go to. We're annual members so we go quite a lot. There is a new monkey enclosure with lemurs running about around you which is cool. I was told not to walk directly under one on a branch over the path yesterday, as they have been known to wee on people!! I figured I get covered in enough wee and poo, don't need monkey wee too!!!

Redz - very relieved for you! Lets hope it all calms down quickly for you. With the transition from moses basket to cot I've heard that what Claire suggested works well and you can also put rolled up towels underneath the cot sheet in a doughnut shape around her - this will help her feel more snug and secure like she does in the moses basket.

Claire - that does sound great, though not the being weed on bit!

All our Christmas prezzies for the boys just arrived I'm having so much fun checking (playing with) them all! I think we may have gone a bit Thomas mad though....

cori - so sorry to hear bout the chicken pox, I am sure it's best to get it out of the way early though, I am dreading DS1 getting it.

Cruise - don't really know what to suggest other than making sure you spend plenty of time in her room so she gets used to it and try leaving her for longer and longer periods before you go back to her, this will reassure her that you WILL come back and you are still there. Not sure if it'll help - you've probably already tried it.

Well the Rotary Club came round our crescent last night with the sleigh and Santa. Ds1 had just got out of the bath, so watched from our bedroom window, he thought it was great, god knows what the people from the Rotary Club thought though, as there was DS1 wearing nothing but a pair of green thomas pants and holding him up was DH, just in from work, so in the process of getting changed and also half naked......'that'll be where the naturists live then.....'
We have got 2nd lot of injections on friday.....I am not looking forward to it, got a feeling they are going to be worse than the 1st lot.

Cruise sorry!!! meant Ds not DD !!

hi all

cruise have you tried using a baby comforter/blanket if you sleep with it first your smell passes on to it, i use one for ds they sell some nice ones on the baby sleep shop site.

cori hope the chickenpox are getting better they are a nightmare dd and ds1 had them young.

Redz my sil did the basket in the cot it worked.

Well ds no better with his cough took him docs yesterday told me to give him a few more days and if he is still no better they will take him to hostpital for oxygen, hope he picks up soon.
He coughs that much his eyes go red and start to run.

kseaj - sorry to hear DS is still poorly. DS1 had pneumonia twice last year and was hospitalised both times - it's awful. Just with him being so little can I urge you to take him to a&e if you're at all worried and if you notice any grunting or pulling in of the skin below the ribs then take him straight to hospital. IME GPs tend to try and treat a baby at home and it can take a while for them to improve wheras the hospital admit them, treat the infection aggressively and it clears up much quicker. You also don't have to wait for a GP referral to be admitted if you go to a&e as they just do it straight away. Hope you don't need this info but it can be helpfl to know if it is needed.

ha ha Mabel - was it you who got caught by the window cleaner?? you'll be getting a reputation...!!!!

Kseaj, your poor DS. It must be difficult watching him cough so badly. I hope it improves soon and you don't have to go to hospital with him.

Still haven't had time to set up new computer ... currently on DS1's for the interim ... 128MB memory; LOL.

Thanks Cruise ... Oh, when I'm facing another day feeling dreadful, believe me, everyone knows about it!

Liquid - Next time I will try warm milk.
DH & I in agreement Jameson has until Jan 3rd (he'll be a full 4 mos); then we'll either trade schedules (I'll go to sleep 11:30 pm to 6 am; DH takes any 3 am wakings) or we'll just warmly dress him for bed so he doesn't get cold (instead of blankets), and if he wakes between midnight and 5 am he's on his own. DS1 was sleeping midnight to 6 am every night without exception by this point. Some believe each child is different ... but this simply can't continue.

Slightlymad - Thanks! Have heard that recently from Mom as well. Good to know.

Mabel - Hope you're better soon.
And Cori - hope your LO is better.

Liquid - poor baby; no voice. Hope that changes ASAP.

Still 8 lbs to lose, but fitting into over 1/3 of my closet.

Cruise - Hoping for the best with cot.

Redz - LOL at Dadsnet! Glad all's right now.

YAHOO: Yahoo group ... click "Join this group!" & someone will approve you!

My goodness Marls that's some weight loss! well done! (I've just despaired and bought myself a corset for the whole wedding thing next year!). Is Jameson wriggling out from under the covers then and waking up? - would you like me to export a gro-bag for you - don't know if you could get the to send you one direct, I could stick up a special listing on ebay or something for you if you like.

What are the daytimes like - I'm so surprised he's not sleeping through for you yet, sounds like you've been working really hard at it.

Sorry, completely forgot to put in a few ??'s there!

Sorry it's so long - lots of messages....Got back from dd's carol concert and feel really Christmassy and lovely . I love her so much and she is such a brilliant, patient, loving big sister to Dominic. Just had to share it with you all . Now for hte messages.....
Clairmow - Don't think it is a cold matress that is disturbing him as he is in grobag. He is just in the habit of falling asleep in my arms/at breast. My bugbear is that I created this mess and I have to fix it at his cost! What a stupid woman I am . Funny thing is once he is asleep in the cot he stays there for 8 - 10 hours, surely he must have to settle himself during that time if what is said about sleep cycles is true..? So he CAN do it . Dunno wht to do...

Mabel - Re: your naked ds and dp. You will have social services calling round at this rate.It must have been like the scene from life of Brian! lol. The 2nd jabs are horrid. Two needles, two nurses and synchronised jabs! I cried inside

kseaj - Ta re: blanket idea. I may try that - I'll try anything at this point! What is the baby sleep site called? Would love to visit.... Hope ds recovers frmo his cough soon - sending cyber sympathies and hugs.....x

Marls - Hope you get some better nights soon. Every child is different. My ds took to her cot no probs and was on four hourly feeds and sleeping 7 - 7 by 12 weeks. Ds is on 2.5 - 3 hourly feeds and sleeps 9pm- 7pm occasionally waking at 5 for feed. He is much more of a challenge and I though he would be easier. Good luck!

Myrtle - ditto above - hope nights improve. I guess we all have our glitches..... They are still so precious though.

Redz - Took your advice and put ds in cot today while I beautified myself. he was delighted and made some beautiful squealing/happy sounds. So it's not the location, just the routine that needs to be addressed. Down to me I guess....

Just a final word - Dominic found his thumb today, sucked from a bottle for the first time, napped for two glorious hours then one hour and made the most beautious squealing happy sound i have ever heard! Nite nite

Oh I forgot - I am now back in all pre pregnancy clothes and back to pre pregnancy size and weight. So despite my inability to be able to put my darling baby to bed successfully, at least I am thin!!!

Hi all,

Totally off the subject but I live 8 miles from the centre of Ipswich & am feeling rather spooked by the events of the past few days. Have just watched the news & we live so close to where they found body no1 & we used to live really close to where they found body no2. These sorts of things always happen else where don't they? Not on your doorstep so to speak...not very nice at all

Will try & catch up tomorrow.

Night night

x

Hi all,

Think everyone must be asleep

Clairmow - Ill give the moses basket in cot a try. She is ok in the cot during the day at times, but its the sleeping at night that she needs to get used to. So hopefully that will work.

Liquid - I have a teddy connected to a cushion that dd lays in between its called a teddycal used it when she was newborn in the moses basket she seemed to like it but then she grew and there was no space for it so havent used it for a while. I'll use it in her cot hopefully it will make her feel secure and she'll fall asleep as soon as her head hits the sheets

Marls - Congrats on the weightloss How did you do it? I still have 2stone I want to lose. I'm back to my pre pregnancy weight but want to lose a bit extra and the last two stone just wont budge their hanging on for dear life!

Cruise - Im glad that ds was happy in the cot today, Hopefully by xmas your ds and my dd will be happily going to sleep in their cots.

Im a bit worried now about having her sleep in a different room to me. Never thought of that when I was decorating the nursery. We got a cot/bed so really big and cant fit in our room.
Its gonna be weird looking across and her not being there. Does anyone else have their lo's sleeping in their own rooms?

Cori - I know exactly how you feel, its not nice when something like that happens so close to home. Big hugs

Night all

hi everyone,

Cori, it must be worrying hearing the news every day at the moment for you - although I imagine you aren't outside much in the hours of darkness!

Redz, good luck with settling DD in her cot - Fraser has been in his own room now for quite a few weeks - we found we were waking him, he was waking us, and now we all get a much better night's sleep. I was much more blase about it this time round, think with baby no.2 I have worried less. We can still hear him clearly, but he doesn't have to listen to DH snoring...

Cruise, I think you're right - DS must be able to settle himself if he's sleeping for 8/9 hours straight. He must wake in that time and go back off again. So I guess you are right, it's a habit... maybe Liquid's tough love method is where you'll have to go... Good luck. When you look back in a few weeks time and it's worked, this will all seem like a haze.

Marls, I agree, each child really is different. DS1 slept 10-7 from 9 weeks, and 7-7 from 13 weeks. DS2 is much smaller than DS1 was, and has been much slower to sleep through from the late feed. He does sometimes wake around 4, but does go back off (usually after about 10 mins, but he did shout for half an hour the other night). He doesn't need feeding then, as he totally has no interest in feeding when he gets up in the morning if I feed him at 4... Has Jameson found his fingers/thumb? I think that's what has made it possible for Fraser...

Also, congrats on losing the weight! I am back to pre-pregnancy weight and in all my normal clothes, but the belly is still very flabby and loose. But I didn't put on much with Fraser apart from him and fluid, as DS1 is so active and keeps me on my toes so much, so didn't have too much to get rid of.

Cruise, glad you enjoyed the concert - DS1's is this afternoon, so I am excited! He has been singing 'Little Donkey on a dusty "turd"' for the last few days though.... The first time was a mistake, but DH and I laughed so much he now thinks it's a great joke (of course, it is... but I've had to warn nursery...

I wasn't redz, DH and I were having some 'quality' time ! - It's so much better since DS2 was born, I'd never felt quite 'right' after DS1 so something's changed...

Cori - I know what you mean, there was a student raped and killed just down the road from my halls when I was at uni - I didn't feel able to go out to the shops accross the road after dark for years after and I still try and get DH to go out if we need anything. I got surrounded by a group of lads on walking from my car accross the road to my old house, I really thought I was going to get mugged or worse but they were just 'having a laugh' , I hope my boys are never that cruel.

DS2's been really unhappy the past few weeks since I changed from BF to FF completely. I't's been making me really stressed out during the days (even though he;s been a little angel at night). Thing is that having DS1 with reflux I'd no idea what level of sickness/grumpiness is 'normal' adn I just knew that DS2 was a lot less sick. Got so unhappy yeaterday I called my HV who got me to describe what was going on and she thinks DS2 has reflux too but to a lesser degree - anyway she's put him on enfamil AR as with DS2 and it's honestly been like I found the 'happy mode' button! Hardly any sick now and he's SO much happier!

Liquid- that's great about the formula turning things round
Cori - sorry to hear you're close to recent events
Redz - dd has been in her own room from day 1. Orginally me or dh slept in there with her but from about week 8 when she went from moses basket to cot we have left her alone. We have to close her door too as ds is so noisy having a abth etc. It's a far cry from ds being young - we used to sneak into his room and take photos of him asleep but dd is tip toed around!!

Hope all are well and not too bogged down with the Chrismas shopping frenzy as I am here .
My ds will not nap in the day! Today he has slept for a total of 1 hours 50 mins all day! He had his usual 1 hour in the car seat during hte schoolrun and then the rest is in tiny bits and pieces during the day. He is not too cranky but definitely showing signs of fatigue. I don't know how to get him to nap longer. In fact today we were out and about and he was in his pram so he should have slept beautifully but......
I still do not put him in the cot to nap as he takes an age to settle there at night so the last thing I want is a repeat during the day. Tips anyone??