November 2014 - The one where they won't stay still.

[MrsAukerman]

New thread, new moves, new poo!

Thanks eastmids think maybe she will get there in a few weeks then. I think I need to step our weaning up a gear & start including some protein. We're having roast dinner tomorrow so will try her on some of that. Do you add in a bit of gravy? Wasnt sure if i should due to the salt content?

havent - I dont think there really is a 'should' when it comes to naps. All babies are different . Somewhere between 6-9 months most naturally drop down to just 2 naps a day, morning & afternoon (often 9-10ish & 1-3ish) and anywhere from 12-18 months will drop down to a single nap of 1-3hrs after lunch.

Dont get me wrong dd doesnt do 2 long naps every day - if she short naps then we sometimes have 3 naps too. But more often than not she is having at least one long nap. I'm also finding her awake time has increased a fair bit recently too. She's doing around 2.5hrs between naps now, sometimes longer.

For the last three weeks or so DD has been fairly consistently having three naps. Two are 45mins (usually to within a couple of minutes!) and the other is longer, 1h30 or sometimes even longer. If she gets interrupted before 45 mins she'll usually throw a 4th nap in somewhere too. Until 3 weeks ago she was all over the shop with daytime sleeps though.

I've just thought, it was really only when she started rubbing her eyes and/or burrowing her head into a shoulder when tired that I actually knew when to put her down for a nap so that she'd actually be ready for it. Before that I just guessed based on time since last sleep and whether I thought it was hunger or tiredness and often got it spectacularly wrong.

Omama no we don't use gravy granules or stock cubes due to salt, you can buy baby stock cubes or make own stock without salt, I made a chicken stock last week from chicken carcass and used for baby stews etc.

First night with a hungry milk bottle and she only had me up once for a feed at 4:30 then back to sleep till 7! Not sure if it's a coincidence but I feel less dead either way!

thanks eastmids didnt think so.
moggle i've also been trying to watch dd more for tired signs as she seems to be handling longer awake. sometimes though, her tired signs come too late & she can be overtired before I put her down.

after me saying she's doing well with naps her last 2 days naps have been short! yesterday she had 45 mins am & just 15 mins after lunch & no more til bedtime. today another short morning nap. but she did long night of 13hrs so i guess i cant expect more!

Festival all done. Ds and I both hage colds and he's still getting that tooth through so the second day was less successful! Poor thing could hardly breath last night and I had to give either paracetamol or ibuprofen, teething gel and nose-sucker thing then boob every 2 hours to get him back asleep. Dh stayed out late and is collapsed on the sofa and it's our wedding anniversary today so at least we all feel rough!!!

Oh dear, bit of a mixed bag then MrsA! Hope poor DS recovers quickly. And the two of you, of course!

Ark, hope you've had continued success with the hungry baby milk?

Omama, I am on a baby stock making mission today! Hope the roast went down well? I was struggling for protein ideas too as DD not ready for much texture yet so she had roast yesterday blended up and is having full fat Greek yoghurt with fruit for lunch and cream cheese or peanut butter on rice cake for breakfast at the moment! I bought some coley too to make some finger sized fish goujons for her to try.

Havent, naps are all over the place here. We were down to two 1.5 hour ones but yesterday she had 3 hour long ones and went to bed an hour earlier than normal after fussing all day. I gave her some Calpol as she was miserable all day yesterday and I couldn't see what else could be wrong other than feeling off colour. Seemed to do the trick as she settled down afterwards.

eastmids I live in Ireland where there are jabs at 6 months also. He's still not right. No temp any more (though we had a rough 24 hrs) but he's still irritable and fussy.

Annoyingly, he's started having meltdowns for DH but not for me. This is awful as DH has a brilliant relationship with him and does about 40% of the parenting. But this week I've had to take over when DS was hysterically refusing to nap/feed for DH and of course the little troublemaker naps and feeds like a dream for me. Which means more work for me!

Its all about Mum, and he's started to get seperation anxiety and whines piteously if I walk across the room to do the washing up. Or even turn my back on him!

If any of you have the Wonder Weeks app, we're in the short black bit on the chart. Its "increased fussiness and irritability are common around this time" No Shit Sherlock!

Oh Anna I know exactly what you mean . We had this about 3 weeks ago when dd was as quiet as a mouse when I had her but as soon as dh took over, you'd have thought the house was on fire . I took her back and she was as good as gold. ... This got better but over the last couple of days she now starts to grizzle when I turn my back and god help me when I need to go to the loo

Oh, meant to say, thanks to all of you who replied re nap times .
I realise that every baby is different, but it's nice to have an idea of what others do.
Thought I had it sussed: dd was having 4 x 30-40 min naps per day for the last 10 days and the timings of them were becoming pretty consistent (please note tense used. ...)
Then today she decides to have 2 naps of 1hr 20mins each (); missed out her normal 3rd nap and now we're onto the "normal" 4th one - although I have no idea how long it will go on for now!

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7119782?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00002118

Sorry, I don't normally post links but this is (from my viewpoint at least) a lovely article.

annarose2014 can you head over to : www.mumsnet.com/Talk/breast_and_bottle_feeding/2386633-5-mo-will-take-breastmilk-from-bottle-but-not-formula?msgid=54579730#54579730

Done! Thanks amy!

Cheers Anna

Lovely article Amy

Anna we had this today too. I usually put dd to bed while dh does ds, but today ds asked if I would do his bedtime. It was lovely to spend some time with him but poor dd started screaming the moment I left her with DH, refused her bedtime bottle & got herself in a real state & I had to go up & calm her down. I felt quite sorry for them both, but dh rarely does her bedtime so theres no wonder she wasn't pleased by it. Only trouble is a difficult bedtime doesnt encourage him to want to do more

She is starting to get a bit clingy generally now, we are getting crying if I pop her down or walk away from her, & crying if other people eg grandparents hold her. I guess this is part of leap 6!

We have been away for the last week to see the PIL and show them DD in flesh finally. The 4 hours drive didn't seem much of a problem, slept through most of it. DD had met the crowd (8!) of her cousins and seemed quite excited about all the kids around, although she was getting tired very quickly from everything going around. She the naps were very different than at home where it's three of us and piece and quiet. She didn't mind to be held by others, but she did keep us in view. One night MIL was looking after her and put her to bed while we went to a very nice restaurant for a taster menu. About 6 hours away from DD, the longest I have done since she is here. DD didn't have any problem with that despite meeting MIL 2 days ago, hope that stays like that. She probably is excited to see other people apart from us two :)
There have been a lot of comments about how cheerful and content she is, which made me think that maybe it has something to do with that we did hypnobirthing? I know they claim it to be a fact, but I am always rather apprehensive to all sorts of claims. Also DH is of very calm nature so it could be anything really.

Just got back from walking 45 minutes each way to where we go to a music group. Apparently it's half term so therefore no music group today.

My username is so appropriate.

Hi everyone, been a while since I dropped by. Sounds like loads of similar stuff going on for us all - mixed/crap sleep and snot and clinginess. We were away for 3 nights and DD's sleep was utterly shocking - think she really didn't like the travel cot. It was slightly better last night back in her own cot - just 2 wakeups/feeds which I can't really argue with.

AnnaRose you've reminded me DD still needs to get her 6 month jabs too - we are pretty late. Not looking forward to that one with the 3 needles. How's your DS now?

Weaning is going OK, DD is certainly interested in food though a couple of times in recent days she has taken to loud crying when being fed - she's gobbling the food but crying, gobbling then crying, and I'm wondering if it's teething-related because her gums do look ready to pop. She's very snotty too and was miserable this morning when I handed her over to the CM - hated leaving her :( I find I am much more nervous with finger food this time around compared to DD1. DD2 has gotten into difficulty a few times - not just normal gagging - from biting off more than she can chew. She's sorted herself out each time in the end but christ it's horrible when it happens. So I'm just going to back off a bit now until she has teeth and just stick to easy finger foods like sweet potato wedges.

Allergies are making me a bit anxious too - any other babies have issues? She has a definite egg allergy and I think it is likely she is also a bit CMP intolerant - we gave her cow's milk in her porridge one day when we had no other milk and she got a bit of a red rash, though it did die down fairly quickly. We have an appointment at the allergy clinic but it's bloody months away - she'll be 10 months! I'm going to try her with some almond butter soon, I think I feel safer trying almond butter than peanut butter. And at least we have some Piriton now in the cupboard should anything become a problem.

Naps - it's usually 3 at the weekend and 2 during the week with at least one being in the cot.

How is the weather where you guys are? I swear it's been the coldest May ever here. I really wish I could get out properly with the kids without being blown over in a freezing wind!

DD has just eaten a quarter of a banana mashed with a dessert spoon of Greek yogurt No wonder she's such got fat legs! Am going to introduce proper breakfast from next week I think. She's still taking normal amount of BM but she's so mobile now I think she must be burning calories like a marathon runner.

Glad to hear from you, Greenstone! Hope she settled back into her own cot quickly and gets some better nights. Weather here a mixed bag really. We are about 1/4 mile from the Severn here and only a few miles from the mouth of the river so very wide still near us. We get slightly funny weather as a result, plus we live on top of a hill. Very windy lately but weirdly humid too. Not a great combination Feels like we need a thunderstorm but no sign of one.

Havent, sounds like a bit of cake is justified now!

Hope DS is feeling better, Anna.

I am trying to reset my baby today. Yesterday she hardly napped at all, was too tired to eat her dinner, slept through bath time, then woke up so many times in the night hungry and miserable. Today she has had a nice long morning nap on me and I'll take her out this afternoon so she naps in the pushchair. Hopefully that with help with meals and sleeping. I am making the most of the fact that DD1 is at pre-school and there is nowhere else we need to go today. DH is moping in bed with man flu which he has had all weekend, so DD2 has been sleeping with me fed all through the night when crying so as not to disturb him as we don't have a spare room. Those nights of only waking up 3 times feel like a distant memory already.

Oh thats terrible happy. Best of luck.

Greenstone its 3 injections which is awful but he only cried a little bit and was fine the rest of the day. But then he woke up in the night boiling! He became hysterical and even with Calpol and Ibuprofen he was in a terrible state. And the whole next day was the same. I kept taking his temp and it was about 36.9 and I kept giving Calpol but his little forehead was hot all day and he was inconsolable. It passed after 24 rather tough hrs though.

We had a right battle last night. DH went to put him to bed and as soon as he went to put him in the GroBag absolutely hysterical screaming started. I went up and of course he shut up for me and took a bottle. But then he wouldn't go to sleep so I left him to self-settle. I went up and down a few times so shhhh him when he got loud but then I asked DH to pop up the next time as I was tired. Big mistake. He started screaming again! I had to go up, take DS downstairs and rock him in the sitting room till he fell properly asleep, then put him in his cot. Jesus H Christ!

DH was really upset about it as he's done a hundred bedtimes before this. He's all offended, poor thing. But then this morning he left the room and DS started whinging till he came back again! So its completely irrational and I'm not sure how we're supposed to tackle these moods?

Greenstone we use oat milk in Weetabix and things. Its yummy. A neutral taste with a bit of sweetness.

Greenstone we have had the eat cry eat thing last couple days think mix of teeth and feeling grotty. We have dieticians this week for weaning advice regarding cows milk intolerance we use expressed breast milk in food Inc making a white sauce for fish pie.

We. Have also had that eat cry eat thing. For us, it seems to be exhaustion, as she falls asleep right after the meal. I got some Alpro soya milk for weetabix etc. It says suitable from 6 months in addition to food or some words very similar to the official advice on using cow's milk for cooking but not as a main drink. I had to throw away lots of EBM when our freezer defrosted a while ago. Must get the pump back out and start creating a stockpile, because, if she is still CMPI when I go back to work, I will have to hope she will drink disgusting dairy-free formula or be able to provide enough EBM to keep her going from 6am until after 9pm. That is quite a daunting task.
Thanks for pointing out the Aldi baby event. I haven't made it to Aldi for a while so wouldn't have known. I looked on the website and there is lots I want. We need a new changing mat as ours is falling to pieces, but I've not worked out how I would carry one home while pushing the pushchair