November 2014 - The one where they won't stay still.

[MrsAukerman]

New thread, new moves, new poo!

flipflops until 9.17 this morning dd had never ever slept in the cot bed during the day for naps. Today a miracle happened: she had 2 naps in the bed, one of 1hr 15 mins and the 2nd of 1hr 30mins!!!!! AND she didn't need any settling down for the 2nd time:-D:-D but bef I get too cocky, Iit is only yhethe first day. ...

We're following a technique detailed in a book called "baby sleeping trust techniques" by Rebecca Welton - bought from Amazon. ...met her this week and she advised which trust technique to use - we basically put her to bed and as soon as she cries we go in and reassure (briefly) but don't touch/ pick her up. And we keep doing this until she sleeps. Last night it took 1.5hrs to get her to sleep (& 73 trips into her. ..). BUT, when I put her in for her first ever nap, it took 6 trips in over 8 mins

Consistency is apparently the way to get it to work so based on our experience so far, I'm sticking with it!

flipflops ps there's a lot of other things you can do as well as the brief overview I've given above and would strongly recommend that you get the book if you're interested - it's short (109 pages) & really easy to read - lots of bullet points and top tips

havent someone recommended this book to me with DS1 and we tried that technique when I was stopping bf him to sleep (a bit late at 1!) and it worked brilliantly, 1st night was the same as you, second night 10mins and 3rd night not even two mins! Although I could never replicate this in the day so may try it earlier this time with DS2. It feels a nicer way than just leaving them to cry, the resssurance that you're still there.
Sorry it's MusicAndBoons-have changed my name!

^Books not Boons, typing one handed whilst feeding!

Hello all so lovely to see the babies in the flesh so to speak! What a gorgeous bunch we've made. Will try to add a pic of my gorgeous girl, roasting in Marrakech the other week. MrsAukerman when I saw your pic of your DS his smile reminded me of DD :-)
DD is rolling with serious intent now. Had some friends over with their babies this week, who we were cooing over as they can both sit up now. DD can't, but we heard a clunk to find she had rolled two or three times to the bowl of crisps we'd placed safely out of the way, one hand holding onto the bowl, the other with crisp being licked to death! Now that's what I call baby led weaning!
Seems lots of my friends and their babies have come down with D&V. So far nothing here but I was sharing the aforementioned crisps with one of them so it's a waiting game, hopefully we'll get lucky. Sorry for those of you down with the lurgy :-(

Thanks havent I ordered the book at 2am.... I've got the NCSS which I used -with limited success - with DS1 but tbh I'm too shattered to play the long game with DS2. I need to do something and I think I might need a slightly 'tougher' method rather than the most softly-softly ones... I feel my relationship with DS1 is starting to suffer as I always have DS2 on me while he naps and I never get any alone time with him Plus as he only catnaps I feel I'm not giving him what he needs by sling naps - he needs naps where he can sleep peacefully and not get woken which doesn't really happen in the sling.
Can I ask how your DD slept before you started training? Was is on you? Pram? Car seat..? And what was bedtime like before you started?

Feeling a bit more motivated to tackle this....

OH. MY. GOD. DS slept through the night until 5.50 this morning After weeks of horrific sleep, and even before that when he slept much better, this is unprecedented.

And then the sodding cat woke him up by shouting outside the bedroom door. Anyone want a nice ginger and white cat?

I am in shock. I was awake between 3 and 5 worrying about him and wondering why he hadn't woken up for his feed. What is wrong with me?

Do I dare to hope he might repeat it?

flipflops are you new or have I missed somebody's name change?

Yes am new....was following one of the earlier threads but first time poster!

Congratulations thisis! I wish DD does it any time soon. Up to now she has given us one 6 hour stretch, but because of BF, I was half an hour earlier up with sore boobs.

Now embarrassing mummy moment is going to follow. DD woke up at 4am, I was feeding her and when the bottle was halfway through she was holding it very firmly. So I decided she can do the hold of it and I will just watch her lying on my side. Minute later I was asleep and woke up from empty bottle flying towards me. Obviously she had finished it and whatever she did afterwards but it landed about 40 cm away from her, right in my face.

We've just had a second decent night out of ds. I think they key is porridge for pudding after dinner. Seems to keep him full. I'm making a small amount of porridge each time but obviously he only eats a ccouple of teaspoons worth so I'm eating the rest and then not hungry for my own dinner! Worth it to get a 6-8 hr stretch though.

Thisis last week my DD did two nights 7pm ish to 6am ish but then reverted back to 10pm feed and awake at 4.30am, but this week she's going through again, she slept til nearly 7am yesterday and 5.45 this morning. And then is going back to sleep for an hour and a half 2 hours later so I go back to sleep too! I'm not going to bank on her doing this from now on, though maybe I will get a settled time for a while as both her front teeth are through now.
She's sitting up well but isn't rolling over but does lunge forward onto her front from a sitting position when she wants to get something.

Next challenges will be getting her to sleep in her cot in the day time, take bottles and get more used to being with DH for when I go back to work in August. Work are taking their time over considering my request to go part time so don't know what's happening at the mo so am not rushing to do this. Would love to tell work where to go!! But need the money.

flipflops I really hope it is successful for you - you do have to stick with it and the routine as I think it's consistent approach that does the trick.

So until we started this in order to get dd to nap during the day I was having to physically push her in the pram - rocking it in the hallway / patio wasn't sufficient, I had to walk MILES each day. As soon as I stopped, she'd wake up, so it wasn't unusual for me to walk for 3 hrs each day . Luckily, the weather here this winter has been quite dry. ...when it rained I did an errand in the car and sometimes she may have fallen asleep. .. night times weren't so bad, although we did go through a period of screaming for a few hours. Lately we'd overcome this by me bf her to sleep and then very carefully putting her in the cot bed asleep. Since Fri she's been put into the cot bed awake for every nap and night sleep. ...and so far, so good. Tbh my dh was really sceptical about it all, but we had to try something as it was completely unsustainable for me to take her out for a walk twice a day.

Good luck and let me know how you get on. Oh, Rebecca Welton also has a Facebook page/group (I think it's called "walking zombies") - may be worth a look?

We too had a full night 7_5.45 we didn't go back down after but I too was awake 3-5!! He had started going to once,a night ad hoc and had done once the 2 previous night.

W eaning going well he loves anything he can feed himself potato cakes and ciabattta are a fab.

Just found out about porridge fingers! Amazing! (Google it)

DD loves porridge fingers!
I've come down with a vomiting bug overnight, grim, both the friends I was with on Friday have got it too :-( lucky it was a weekend, DH took DD out to town to hang out with the other husbands and babies of puking mums and I got to stay in bed all day. Not in optimal conditions but it was nice to just lie there in the peace and quiet!

Porridge fingers! Great tip!

dd has another cold, wondered what was going on when she woke up every hour after I put her down last night. Poor thing. Duvet day for us.

DD has started to give us kisses! The funny ones - open mouth and then plant it on our cheeks and hold there for a moment or two at the same time hugging arms around neck. So sweet...
As she has been chewing my fingers a lot for teething, I thought she has decided my cheek instead of fingers, but then no chewing followed.

Jealous of the kisses - I just get nommed on. DS is constantly soaking from his teeth but no sogn yet. We're on about 4 bibs a day, easy.

So the last couple of nights DS hasn't wanted a bottle during the night. Hallalujah, right? Well we seem to have swapped one habit for another cos he still wakes frequently, realises the dummy has fallen out and starts whinging. I pop it back in and he goes back to sleep. But it means I'm woken up just as much, in fact more!

This is ever since we bought 6month+ dummies. He loves it as it fits so well and I think we've created a dummy monster. He never liked it before but turns out it was just too small to be comfy.

The obvious thing is to go cold turkey with the dummy but tbh the reason I bought the 6month+ dummy was because I couldn't get him back to sleep during the night and he'd be awake hours!

I know some of you have had the dummy issue at night. Any ideas?

Hi, could I join please? Ds is 6months next week. We've had some ups and downs but mostly ups now, we have recently found out he is allergic to cows milk.

Took him swimming for the first time yesterday, he slept for 12hours straight lastnight! Think I will have to take him everyday, might get expensive though.

Anna ds has a dummy and we have the same problem with it falling out but it's not as bad as it was, most nights it was every hour and I was ready to throw the bloody thing out of the window. I've found using one of the dummy string things but not clipping it to him helps a little, it doesn't go flying across the cot now. Before I was searching blindly in the dark for it every time he woke. He's starting to actually try and put it in himself now too.

I have been weaning ds but I'm scared to give him finger foods in case he chokes, he gummed off a piece of kiwi at lunch yesterday and gagged on it.
Panicks me.

We do have one of those rabbits with velcro on every corner to attach 4 dummies to. It was a gift. Not sure it would help just yet though as he's still utterly crap at putting it in his mouth himself. Worth a shot though I suppose...........

DS is intolerant to cows milk to, btw. We're on Neocate. We use oat milk in porridge etc.

Hiya mumineed My DS loves swimming. We are starting BLW when DS hits 6 months on 28th May. Cannot wait as it is going to be so exciting but the choking but is very scary I agree.

Starting a new term of Baby Sensory today. The other mummies I usually go with couldn't get on this term so I have to go make new friends. Nervous!

DS slept for a grand total of about 45 mins yesterday and then had a shit night. We have had a 45 min nap this morning so crossed fingers for a better day. x

Hi Mum, welcome!

Anna, was he a total dummy refuser before? DD has rejected them since birth but wondering if I should try a bigger one. She has woken five or six times a night again for the past few days and I am knackered! Thinking about making the move to her own room just so I don't have to listen to DP snoring blissfully away as it makes me homicidal envious. Maybe a dummy would help? Though it sounds like it comes with its own problems!

Strawberry, jealous of the kisses. I just get sucked on DD definitely teething but still no signs of teeth, just ridiculous quantities of drool.

Work have asked me to go back to do an exhibition for schools on Wednesday. Do you think it would've unreasonable to ask if they're going to pay me for a full day or at least offer a day of leave in lieu when I go back?! I am still on maternity til August.

twiglet We've wondered the same about the dummy but most people who have them said if you've come this far don't do it. re: your exhibition would it be a keep in touch day and therefore paid? I'm using all 10 of mine but in my terms, basically only doing work I can do at home or lunches with my cover or team (sweet deal really, 2 hour lunch with my mat cover, work pays for lunch and my time and we mostly talk about babies)