Nov 2006 - part 1 - sore boobs and paper pants

[CattyB]

Hi there,

Know I'm now offically a October mum but wanted too keep up with you all so if you'll still let me be a 'Nov mum' that would be good.

Our 1st week has been remarkably good - DD (first time I've typed that one ) is a wee star. Feeding is going really well, she came out know what to do and apart from being a bit tired all seems to be falling into place. Had a good cry as my milk came in but otherwise emotions have been ok. Luckily DH is at home for the next couple of weeks - highly infuriating at times but invaluable for helping getting big brothers out to school and for making dinner.

Look forward to hearing all your baby news x

had a hv visit today and they'v refered me for counselling, she telling the doc to prescribe anti ds this afternoon adn to refer to mental health team. she also refering me to a young mums thing so i can make some mates round here as i know no-one!

she worried a bit as i have a history of self harm so they keeping a close eye on me.

keiran doing well, happy bunny except when im forcing him to eat, 2ozs and he tries to go back to sleep lazy bugger!!

Evening!

Catty,- aren't some HVs rubbish? I've got some problems with my stitches, and the HV told me to have two baths a day [fhmmm]!

I haven't even managed one bath since LO was born.

Hattie: Thanks for the advice. Have begun expressing and will try to give a bottle at least once a day!

Morning all. Sorry about this but just need to vent I am so wound up. Been up for the last 2 bloomin hours DS2 has fed and it's taking hours to get his wind up enough for him to go to sleep, he's fine when I pick him up but the second I put him down again he's sick and gets upset again. He won't take the colic drops to help him get his wind up he just spits it all out again.
Went to bed early tonight to try and catch up a bit - complete bloody waste of time that was.
When he does finally settle I'll be too wound up still to get back to sleep.

Hope everyone else is having a better night.

Aah, a bit of peace and quiet!
DS woke up this morning at 8.30 (it's now 12.00am) and he hasn't slept more than 2 hours all day. That was just one stint.
I love watching him become more and more aware of the world around him. He's 5 weeks and he's really starting to notice what's happening around him. He's asleep now! Yay! Maybe I'll get a little nap too (hope is alive!!!)

oh me and my boys, sorry you're having a tough time.

which colic drops have you got? i remember dd would never take the dentinox ones and to tell the truth they were a pain in the @rse! iv got keiran on the infacol and its a lot less flaffing and really easy to give, even if he's screaming, hes always taken them fine, but it does make for very orangy burps!!

well had my docs appt last night and im now on anti d's, and have an appointment with the community psychiatric nurse on the 2nd of Jan as iv had a history of self harm i need to be watched carefully!

now i have to break the news to my auntie that iv been advised to stop tutoring my cousin as i dont need any more stress than i already have.....i know she wont be angry as such but i think its gunna be hard for them to sort some sort of schooling out for him!

now whats happened to mumsnet?!?! its all changed and im confused!!! (fhmm)

Me and my boys - you sound exactly like me. Ivan hasn't slept for more than 2 hours at a time since monday and last night I was up every hour with him. He doesn't really want to feed all the time but is in constant motion and has clearly got tummy ache. the infacol no longer seems to be helping and I am wondering if it is making him a bit hyper because it has sugar in it and he is having it a LOT! I was considering cranial osteopathy but have read it isn't any help unless you had a vaginal delivery which I didn't.

Got sent to a homeopath yesterday who was fab. She has a baby of about 6 months and so could relate to how I was feeling. She has given me flax seed oil as it is Omega 3 without the metal, Bcomplex, magnesium zinc and a superfood. I have to have a smoothie in the morning with the superfood and oil in and take the pills at the same time - lets hope it works as I desperately want to feel better.

Hope everyone is having better days. hugs to all as it loks like we all need them

It must be catching this whole bad spell! Sorry i haven't posted in a while i have been having a tough time, Harry screams all day and i just don't know what to do anymore.

I finally gave in and have started mixed feeding him so he has a bottle first thing in the morning and last thing at night and breast all night and in the day, basiclly i was just so tired he was feeding ALL DAY lterally i have a very forcfull let down reflex so he would suck about 3 times then pull hiself off and scream then refuse the breast for about 10 mins then scream because he was hungry and so we would start again!
The health visitor just said he's colicky (wtf?) and said to persist with the infacol.

The bottles are settling a little bit but not alot, he's got a hernia and severe granulation on his bellybutton so were taking him to the dr's to have it quaterised tonight so im going to ask the dr to check him over becuase i have tried everything and im just out of ideas, im constantly in tears becuase he wont stop crying!
Poor Jack is asking for attention all the time becuase he's getting nothing because were so busy trying to shut Harry up!

I am going to get some anti d's today i did get some Omega 3 but i think it's about time to get some other help, i think im heading for a nervous breakdown all i do all day is cry and cry and i can't cope with anything even making dinner/washing up ect makes me dissolve into tears. Unfortunatley there are no parent groups near me as we live in the middle of nowhere!! Im dreading asking for them though i to have a long history of manic depression and self harming, the g.p is going to get all serious on me!

Apart from that Harry is fine i love him so much i just feel so bad that i can stop him crying

charlee hopefully the doc will be able to be some help and not get too bad at you. iv had the history too and the docs are keeping a closer eye on me coz of the self harm but they havnt been too bad about it all.

thankfully keiran isnt too bad but chloe is a nightmare and my relationship with her has really gone downhill since keiran was born so thats the problem im having, i too seem to spend all my time in floods of tears.

email me hunny, you know im always happy to hear from you! if you've lost the email its [email protected] anyone else can also email me of course im happy to chat about anything!

just a quick post from me for some advice please sorry i havent got chance to catch up with everyone yet.We hve had 2 hrs sleep so far over 3 nites. Kai is breast feeding really well in the day he sleeps really well,come nighttime he cries every time i put him down i feed him then he goes fast asleep,i put him down and he starts crying,i pick him up wind him change his nappy sing to him,he was ok for a few mins then starts to cry,last nite he was never off my breasts,from 12pm to 6.45 this morning.This is really upsetting me i feel like a failure im tired my nipples hurt.Im seriously thinking of packing bf in if only to get some sleep.Im very anxious that im not making a good mum to Kai.Please help.

Hiya debbsy - am sorry that you have not had any sleep , just a few suggestions - have you tried warmimg kai's mattress before you put him down (that way transition from you to the crib is not as noticable) and also, it sounds like he may be using you as a dummy - if you don't have any objections, maybe consider a dummy (you will have to keep putting it in at first but once he is asleep he should be fine) or another option - how about giving a formula feed for the last feed at night before he goes down, it nmight settle him for longer. I found with both ds and dd the breastfeed didn't sustain them for very long at all and they both fed more regularly but a bottle feed at night just gave me those extra few hours sleep I needed! - Hope this helps
I hope everyone else is doing okay - Freya is fine and ds seems to have improved over the last couple of days, so my tears have stopped - he is going to see father christmas tomorrow with my parents, so it will be nice to have some time alone with Freya because there is not enough of me to go araound when we are all together

Charlees - I think you need to be matter of fact with the g.p and say that you are not visiting for a lecture! The past was the past, but right now you are dealing with a bubster who needs a lot of attention which is what is wearing you down and out at this time. It's totally understandable and reasonable for you to feel like you do. Remember that medical peps should be there to help you, you don't need to prove anything to them.

Unfortunately I have to go to a specialist about lump in breat on Monday which I could really do without. I'm not worried at this point as most lumps are benign and think it is quite common for pregnancy hormones to set wierd things off. Just have more than enough to think about at the moment and my boobs are more than busy bf at the moment for anyone else to be prodding or sticking needles in them.

Q - My dd hasn't pooed in days, how long can they go? Read in books that bf bubs can go for ages, but starting to wonder....

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Hi thanks for your kind words, i did get some anti d's although the g.p wasn't particuarly happy about prescribing them he says the health visitor should have spoken to him first.

Harry has has his bb button done, it's fallen off this morning and it is sooooooo gross i will not be keeping it!
HIs hernia is spreading where the little darling screams all day although not he's getting into a slightly more consistant routine with his bottles he seems to be settling better and he is sleeping about 6 hours strieght a night and he's even going in his moses basket for a good deal of the night as well!

Harry is 5 1/2 weeks now and i am still bleeding on and off, is anyone else?

I hope everyone else is ok.

Charlees-my LO is 5 1/2 weeks too and I stopped bleeding just a few days ago. My HV said it can go on for up to six weeks but that it shouldn't be heavy bleeding at this point. If it is, I'd get it checked out.

debbsy--how old is your LO? I second the suggestions already made, but it could also be a growth spurt where they want to eat constantly. There's one around 10 days and six weeks. Could that be it?

I think my LO is going through her six week growth spurt right now. She has been crying constantly in the evenings and wanting to eat every two hours (before she would easily go three/four hours during the day). She really looks like she's in pain when she cries in the evening, and I think a lot of it is gas pain. Her tummy is so hard and I can feel that it is just full of gas. I give her some gripe water mixed with warm water and massage her tummy and she will really toot! Sometimes this helps and she goes off to sleep, other times she just keeps crying until she passes out from exhaustion (sometimes takes hours). Anyone else have hints for releasing gas?

Also my parents are visiting from the States and are driving me crazy. All they want to do is "play" with LO, and she gets overstimulated by all of these new people passing her back and forth and is a nightmare by the end of the day. Of course, they don't want to do any of the real work like change nappies, wash bottles, put her down for naps because that's the "mother's job". So basically I've got two extra "children" in my flat that I have to take care of too. DH is on a work trip this weekend and so I've really been stretched. Oh well, they are leaving early Tuesday morning and then things can get back to normal.

I found my DD woke as soon as we put her in her moses basket. We tried the hot water bottle in the basket to warm the mattress and it worked sometimes. We eventually gave her a dummy at 3 weeks and we've all had more sleep ever since. We don't use the dummy during the day, only at night, and she will hopefully not get dependant on it. I would definitely suggest a dummy, as it stopped me having to bf as much in the night and I am therefore still exclusively bf still.

I am also still bleeding a bit, and dd is 6 weeks old now. I'll be asking my GP about it tomorrow.

Hello everyone

Are we all here now? I am afraid I am well behind. DH has gone back to work today and apart from the midwife I am not expecting any visitors today (thank goodness!!!) so have managed to find a few minutes for an update!

Everything is going absolutely brilliantly here, George is feeding really welL, I've no sore boobs and am feeling really positive about the breast feeding, much better than with DS1! He is having a bit of trouble getting his wind up, he isn't screaming with it, but lots of grunting and bubbles going on that keep him a bit unsettled, we have tried loads of different ways to get it up, but nothing has shifted it very well yet so any tips any of you other mummy's have would be great

I am feeling really good overall actually, by this point with DS I was stuck with baby blues and infected war wounds feeling like a zombie surviving solely to feed and change the baby, this time we really are both enjoying it a whole lot more, I am hardly bleeding at all which has also been completely different to DS1, I was loosing constantly with him and had big clots and everything, this time after the first day or so it has just been like a really light period, and it has stopped all together a few times for 12+ hours.

I am going to go and try and read this thread now and catch up with you all, I have been dying to get on here and hear how you all getting on!

morning everyone, well had a good weekend so feeling happier at tackling this week on my own without dh even tho the anti ds havnt quite kicked in yet.

keiran was 6 weeks sat and his appointment to be registered isnt till tomo, not my fault that was the first appt i could get, i rang the mon after he was born (he was born sat!!) oh well nothing i can do about it. will be great to get the child benefit sorted tho!

we'v just moved him into a big boy bed (cot to all normal people) as dh decided that he was too big in the moses basket now. keiran doesnt care where he is but does like the mobile over the cot, keeps him entertained for a little while in the morning!! i;v been bringing him into our bed at 6 am, more for my benefit than his, i really enjoy the cuddles and its helping our bonding.

im also trying to bond with dd again, that seems to be my problem, hopefully when the anti ds kick in il be able to get my head around splitting my time better!

debbsy - i would suggest a dummy, keiran did that in hyospital when i was bf and kept screaming coz he got wind, then being sick coz he didnt acctually need the milk. on the way back from the hospital i got him a dummy and hes slept much better at night since!

i do think hes been having a growth spurt tho (6 weeks i know) as he wants to feed every 2 hrs during the eve and then twice over night where he used to only feed once at night. not that im complaining hes a really good boy at night!

oh quick question, anyone whos been using infacol have you found its not working as well now, or is that just me?!

So I haven't read all the thread, did get through some of it though before someone wanted some attention Geroge is now sat right infront of the speakers listening to Take That's album yes I know it is sad but I like/d Take That! And it was number 1 when he was born so I had to buy it (DS1 had to put up with Gareth Gates' version of unchained melody when he was born, I did buy the single but I don't think it has ever been put in the CD player!!)

Anyway I came to say I was at Staceys wait to register Kieran, all we had to do was ring them and make an appointment for the next day, DH nipped out for it and was back in less than an hour, and the registration place was in the next town so it didn't take him long there. I thought all babies had to be registered by law by 6 weeks?

Well just to let you all know and thank you for the advice (tic tok i did what you said and didnt log at all and spent time with my dds) we have SLEPT i stuck with it,and we are now feeding properly every 3 hrs very happy mummy now!!! off to have a nice bath whilst ddh has taken Kai xmas shopping .xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Hi,

Feeling a bit better than last week although DP is doing my head in. He is bemoaning the lack of "his time" and how he has to do so much more "running around" and being a taxi - wtf??? I can't drive because I am registered partially sighted and we have a 7 week old son. If he didn't think his life was going to change then he is very silly

It would also appear that DS has reflux. He has all the symptoms with the exception of the lots of sicking. We were back at the Dr's on Friday as the poor little boy was inconsolable. He is now on Infant Gaviscon in a bottle last thing at night and it does appear to be helping. He is now sleeping properly day and night (i.e every 3 hours)rather than the awful snacking and napping we were having. I don't feel too bad about the bottle at night as it is way easier to give him the gaviscon this way, means DP can feed him and it is only 1 bottle a day so shouldn't affect my supply.

Glad things have improved debbsey xx

charlee at the wait for registration. ds was registered at 5 days

mia - hope things calm down for you tomorrow - that all sounds a bit stressful.

Right, DS is in bed so I am off to read yesterday's newspaper - think i am destined to be a day behind from now on!!

well i do haveto register him in croydon coz he was born in croydon, so obv theres loads of babies there, it is a huge town tho and all the surrounding towns have to go there etc.

bloody pain in the @rse if you ask me, at least il have a nice lump sum of child benefit to pay off our overdraft in the new year (it isnt that big btw)

right gotta convince dd she needs a nap when she obv feels theres no need for one!

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Hi all mummies and little ones. Just popping on quick to say hi and hope everyone is doing well. Alfie is 6 weeks today and getting more and more gorgeous everyday, we are now nearly ready for christmas although cutting it fine but Alfie enjoys looking at the tree anyway. He is sleeping better but the doctor says he has 3 month colic which is hard every evening and he also has reflux so he is on Gaviscon, ive been telling him how much i took when i was pg!!! I dont think i will be on again before xmas so wanted to wish everyone a lovely time with their new arrivals.

Happy Christmas x x

Hi all

Hope everyone is well and enjoying their little ones.

Thought it was about time i came up with a better name (it's Delia by the way!).

It seems we are all having problems with windy babies who don't want to sleep at night, this is very reasuring as i wondered if it was something i was doing wrong! Paige has not let me sleep in the last 48 hrs or so as she has gone back to 2oz's every 2 hours 24/7, i think she must be having a growth spurt or picking up vibes from me and my family as my nan passed away the end of last week and things have been a little tense.

We go for another weigh in tomorrow Paige's third, just waiting to see how long we are there this time as they might want to sort the 6 week check at the same time.

Hi everyone.

Stacey - we also had the delay for registration here - Benjamin was registered at 42 days old, even though we phoned for the appointment on day 7!! I was panicking that we would miss the appointment for about a week leading up to it

Breastfeeding going rather painfully here I have had mastitis (sp?) and now have blocked ducts which are very painful - still struggling on though, although am now getting pressure from family etc to abandon it, I must say if I get many more infections I probably will.

Benjamin is putting on weight really well, and while still small has put on over 5 1/2 pounds in 7 weeks although he does have very bad wind at night and yes I think that Infacol is rubbish. We have had great success with Gripe water - it produces some amazing burps!!