Nov 2006 - part 1 - sore boobs and paper pants

[CattyB]

Hi there,

Know I'm now offically a October mum but wanted too keep up with you all so if you'll still let me be a 'Nov mum' that would be good.

Our 1st week has been remarkably good - DD (first time I've typed that one ) is a wee star. Feeding is going really well, she came out know what to do and apart from being a bit tired all seems to be falling into place. Had a good cry as my milk came in but otherwise emotions have been ok. Luckily DH is at home for the next couple of weeks - highly infuriating at times but invaluable for helping getting big brothers out to school and for making dinner.

Look forward to hearing all your baby news x

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Hooray !!! NJ has done it

Can't get link (pretty bad for someone who's DP is a computer person) - but it's on the birth announcements...

LA

Hi guys,
Zak had a better night last night, DH went out and got infacol from tescos at about 10pm, and lo seemed a bit less stressed out. This afternoon I forgot to give it to hiim and he screamed again, so maybe it is wind. We are still thinking about a cranial osteopath.

I am having periods of feeling happy being a mum and then feeling terrified and stressed out, and start crying at the drop of a hat. Am really worried about DH going back to work on Wed, as he is doing such a good job looking after me, cooking and bring me stuff, sharing all the baby care (am crying now just thinking about it ) It's only been a week so I guess it's normal for me to feel emotional.

I am trying to bf with the help of shields as lo couldnt latch on, due to flat nipples. The mw took one look at them and suggested the shields, but I feel like I am in limbo, as they still need sterilizing etc, so it's all just as time consuming as making up a bottle, and it hurts! I just wish I could sit down and feed him without the nightmare of getting these things to stick on and trying to stop them from falling off!!!!!

Sorry about the big moan, just been having a tough few days...

Mia - I think I might know you!? Are you in London??

Hi everyone!

LA - sorry you're left alone! good luck with the induction

Mia - i think the difference with second and subsequent babies is we've already been through the 'life changing' events and therefore a second baby just slots in with less emotional change iykwim.
I think most of us have the same thoughts as you with first babies and the split in your heart over loving and adoring your newborn and longing for your 'old life' just causes enormous upset in the early hormonal days. But honestly it won't last. My dd1 is now four and time has flown so quickly - when you are there in the early days you feel - as you say - that you're in groundhog day. But they change so quickly and so do their routines that the things you are worrying about today won't be an issue next week. Give it time and i assure you you will enjoy yourself again - you will feel like your 'oldself' again. Today i sat watching a film with dd aged 4yrs snuggled up on one side, and 2wk old dd asleep in the other thinking to myself - wow i really am a mother. And the reason i thought that is because i usually go about my day not really thinking that at all - i still think i'm 18yrs old and leading my single childfree life in my head. Its just the sick down one shoulder, saggy boobs and glue all over my bum that give away the fact i'm ten years older and a mother of two!

Kaybee - yes I'm in London....where do you think you know me from? I'm in Marylebone.

Hattie--your message does make me put things a bit more in perspective. I know that there are wonderful things to come with my LO - it just sees like after a 9 month slog of pregnancy that I want all of the fun stuff to happen now! But I'm trying to take one day at a time and enjoy the little things. My LO is smiling now which is adorable!!

Oops maybe not then Mia, unless you have an older brother and three younger sisters and used to live in Royston ?

OMG i just got measured for a bra at M&S - I'm a 36H! i could give Jordan a run for her money! I'm just dreading what they will look like when i have finished feeding!!!!

Harry seems to be doing a little better so another vote here for the Infacol plus i have got it on prescription since were going through it so fast as he has it every feed every day!

Im feeling a little better today, i seem to have up and down days. DP is out buying all my xmas pressies! yay!

Where is NJ??? Hmmm to busy cuddling bubby George i bet!!! Get your bum over here!!!!!!

I appologise for gatecrashing your thread but I urge you all to look at this artical about the risk of cot death in car seats for young babies.

Having seen my baby go blue in a car seat (she was awake at the time, and is fine now) I urge you all to use car seats for their purpose - safely restraining your baby in the car. A travel system may be convenient and it may mean your baby can see you in their pushchair, but it is nowhere near as safe for them as laying them flat in a pram or pushchair. Please think about if you use your travel system on each occasion.

I am sorry if it sounds like I am shouting but seeing a baby go blue is scary. There is another thread which also has some other comments on .

'Tis 4.13am in my neck of the woods. My ds has been up since about 9.00pm. He's been eating and crying and fallling asleep but then waking up again - very frustrating.
However, in the time it's taken me to catch up on this thread, he seems to have fallen well and truly asleep! Thanks mumsnet!!!

Hi everyone - Can men get PND?
My dh is driving me mad! as if I haven't got enough on my plate eith dd of 6 weeks and ds of 2 years! - I might as well have 3 children I won't go into details or you will all fall off to sleep but ARGHH! Freya still seems very unsettled during the day (although she does sleep well, so I can't really complain) but I seem to remember ds laying contentedly on his play mat between feeds and sleeps, but if dd isn't feeding or sleeping (which isn't alot during the day now) she is crying - Maybe I can't really remember ds this young and maybe it's because I can't devote all my time to her as I could with ds but I am really stumped on this one I am going to try upping her feeds to 6oz now, if she leaves any then so be it but I am sure ds was taking 6oz by 6 weeks ... I will let you know how we get on. Take Care all and enjoy your christmas shoping

It's quiet here today but i had to post.

Harry just did the most darling thing! (silly soppy mummy alert!) I was lifting him up and down right to my face and kssing his chin when suddenly he lurched forward and latched himself onto my nose!!
He was sucking for all he was worth it was so cute!

I also awoke last night to find he had snuggled into me and was licking my neck, he could obviouly smell the milk on me, i quite often wake up to find he has latched himself on and is helping himself to a boob while im sleeping if i fally asleep with my pj's undone. Cheeky sod!

Just a very quick hello to everyone, and to say I will try and catch up a bit at some point, it has just been absolutely mayhem here today.

Will try harder tomorrow, TC and love to all xxx

kaybeeandzak - just wanted to say that i also absolutely dreaded my DH going back to work (my LO is 4 weeks now) and cried about it aplenty but actually it was OK and i felt like i could get my head around how to cope with the day when i was just on my own after all.Just be kind to yourself.. Hope it goes ok for you too!

Hello Everyone

Groundhog day indeed, in fact I have no idea what day it is at all, I lost count somewhere around DS being a week old. I'm sure the midwife asks me how many days old he is to test for post natal demetia.

Mia, I've got pretty much the same problem, except I didn't have a great job, just a great social/creative life plugged into the poetry and music scenes in London. I've been surprised how much my party friends have helped out, bringing me lunch and some company when DH went back to work. Is there anyone connected with your work who could do the same for you? It might help you continue to feel connected to your old life, as I'm sure you'll be going back to it.

Also a quick tip for putting babies in their cribs that I learned from a mw last week, it's a faff, but try warming the crib matress up with a hot water bottle first, it makes the transition from your cuddle to the crib less obvious.

I'm starting to wonder about PND, I've got quite a history of depression for one reason or another and the way I feel now is nowhere near as bad as I've felt before. Yes I have times when I can't stop crying and yes I'm very sensitive to DH being insensitive, but it's not a constant low and I have no ill feeling towards DS at all. The MW suggested I go to the GP next week to be diagnosed, but I hate anti-depressants so I'm a bit nervous about going, maybe I'm in denial. Surely PND is sleep deprivation and being full of hormone soup? Is there a proper definition?

Morning ladies, sorry I have been awol for ages and ages. Sounds like everyone is really going through it one way or another. We're struggling with BF this morning!!

Just a quick couple of suggestions after skimming the last few messages.

to get sheilds to stick wet the back with BM will help them stick to you.

if you think you have PND have you tried omega 3 supplements? I had PND for 18mths with DS1 and AND with DS2 omega 3 has been absolutely fan-bloody-tastic for me. I'm just having 500mg a day and boy can I feel it the days I miss it. Just make sure it's one where the oil has been washed to remove heavy metals.

Hope these help
H x

Hi everyone

I agree with cheritongirl about DH going back to work. I dreaded it and was really nervous about being alone with LO but actually it was much better than I thought it would be. Yes, a bit boring to be on my own with LO, but I could get on with her routine and she seems to have gotten used to just me taking care of her really quickly. The weeks are now going by much faster.

ClareBos - I wonder about the PND too, as I've got my low moments. But overall, I have more happy moments than low moments, so I think that's something. I just think I'm getting used to life with LO and of course there is an adjustment period. Maybe I'll try the Omega-3

Just wanted to tell you about my wonderful day yesterday. I had my hair done in the morning (hubby watched LO) and then had lunch with a friend. By that time I was missing LO and came home and spent the afternoon looking after her. Then I went out to dinner with another friend, as my DH had "given me the day off". I think he was really excited about looking after LO on his own. I kept texting him to make sure that things were okay and she went through one of those periods last night where she wouldn't settle for hours. I think her tummy problems were back as there were lots of pulled faces, knees to tummy and farts. At these times, she doesn't cry constantly but when we put her down in her cot if she looks sleepy, she settle for a few minutes and then the groans will start and eventually she'll start crying. No amount of winding her seems to help. We also give her gripe water and that sometimes will bring up some wind, but doesn't necessarily stop the crying.

I got home about 11 and she had been up since I'd left at 6:30. I felt so sorry for her because I'm sure she was having some digestive pain. We eventually got her to sleep and she slept for eight straight hours! She woke up this morning in a fantastic mood (all smiles for us). We're about to take her for a walk in the park.

Anyway, I hope everyone else is enjoying their Sunday.

hi guys.... quicky post to say i've made it over to here finally!!

Ryan Daniel was born on 7th december at 2.58pm... weighing 8lb 110z!!

induction started out well, then all went wrong and i ended up having a c-section under a general anaesthetic... all pretty dramatic and traumatic in the end!

we just got home today, escaped a day early thankgod! and i'm so glad to be home!

so far so good with breastfeeding, which is where we're off to now! xx

congrats to NJ and saralou finally! we all knew you could do it! enjoy your lo's while they'r tiny, its going too quickly! keiran is 5 weeks old already!

Hi everyone, i didnt know this site existed but i was just kindly informed. Im so glad there is somewhere for us all to go afterwards cos i really wanted to hear from you all. Well My little boy was born on 6th November (his due date) so im sorry this is rather belated but ive had no internet access so im now on my mums but am hoping Santa will bring me my own for xmas! We have named him Alfie Jack and he was 8lb 11oz and i was lucky with a very quick labour but it was also very scary, as he is my first and i had no time for painkillers and they couldnt find his heartbeat and he was in distress, but he is fine now apart from bad colic, bless him. He is very laid back and happy apart from when he is hungry he is putting on so much weight!! Hope everyone else is good xxx

hi Lebe glad you found us. congrats to you both. all the babies on here seem to have some level of colic so you're in good company. iv found infacol brill for keiran, but it can take a little while to have soem affect. we do however realise if we'v missed it and it can make him grouchy for about 24hrs, apparantly it has an accumulative effect.

well i should go and do soem dinner really.........hmmmm what to have for sunday tea?!?!

I second the Omega-3 recommendation. Used to take it before pregnancy and great for all around well-beingness! Really strong research on it helping with depression. Go for most 'pure' (expensive)form you can as I think it eliminates metal traces. Good ones are those mixed with Evening Primrose Oil.

DH going back to work was dreaded day for me also but not as bad as I thought. You have to just get on with it eventually and means you can do everything your own way!

DD doing well I think! Still unpredictable as to when she will do things, sleep, cry, eat etc but mostly sleeping at night which I'm enjoying.

Deffon going to get some Omega 3 oil then sounds like just what i need!!!

Not a great day today, my termanily ill grandad is not good we are guessing that he will pass either tonight or tommorrow. It will be a blessing in a way he is in alot of pain.

Harry is doing fine i think he is coming down with something he's been really quiet and sleepy today he's not feeding alot it's probably a bloody cold!!!!!

Hi everyone

My little boy Arthur is one week and 3 days old - he was born on 30 November 2006 (just made it into November!)

We came home from the birth centre 40 hours after he was born (two lovely days of paper pants and wobbly legs) and I've found being at home scary - especially as the place is a mess and I haven't had the energy to do any housework!

Also haven't caught up on the sleep I missed the night he was born. Arthur has decided nights are definitely not for sleeping in.

And still feeling a bit on the weak and wobbly side!

Anyone else felt like this a week after giving birth?

On the plus side Arthur is beautiful and seems to be growing every day!

well id love to take omega 3 but unfortunatly theres no way i can afford it so will just have to see what the hv and doc suggest for me, when they finally get round to diagnosing me, apparantly last week it was too soon to tell as id only felt like it for around 5-6 days!

I looks like almost everyone from the November antenatal thread has made it over here now. Congratulations to all who have had their babies in the last week and who I've not managed to say hi to yet.

Quick question - is anyone breast feeding but also giving formula on an infrequent basis? I want to go to a christmas party and am finding expressing hard work. Will it be ok to give Isabelle a bottle on that evening so I can leave her with DH?