January 2014- the one where the babies move more, but sleep less!

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Hope this is ok!

Puggle if you are doing a turning chain and then starting where it joins the main bit you may be doing it right then. I find explaining crochet hard to understand. Youtube is usually my friend if I'm stuck!this explains it quite well though

I think Make It Sew

I finished the squares for Becca. When I say "I" I mean to say "I started these loads and kept cocking them up so a woman at work forcibly removed them from me and finished them" I figure Becca would like the imagery there

Book I thought you lived close but the hospital was far away for some reason, if that makes sense! Hope you can get there today.

Sunshine facebook group sounds good. I agree general crafts, as I want to try and do some different things to sewing too. I'm interested in trying paper crafts as I really enjoyed making the decorations for S's birthday. I'm rubbish at puns too so no idea re the name

Puggle definitely get back on the bike. My DP bought me a road bike all loads of kit before Christmas and I've been trying to use it on the turbo trainer but I'm so rubbish and unfit. I'm definitely a case of 'all the gear and no idea'

Nature that sounds heavenly! I'm so jealous. Hope you have a fab time.

Make it sew is a great name, even for general crafts :) I think a monthly theme would be great, people could ignore it and do their own thing, or take longer than a month, but it might be nice for inspiration.

Very jealous Nature, I hope you have a great time!

How many naps are they all having now? L was having a morning nap and an afternoon nap, but the last few days she's been refusing her morning nap. I don't know if it's because she's finally sleeping a bit more at night (although last night was not good)?

O has one nap a day. Usually between 1-2 hours long. Been that way for a few months now. She generally has it around 10/10.30 but then doesn't sleep again until bed time. She sleeps well at night (mostly) and isn't tired and cranky. She dropped down to one nap not long after she started sleeping through so definitely think she was ready.

S dropped down to one nap at around 10.5 months. She usually goes down between 11-12 and sleeps for a couple of hours. She always knackered and grumpy by tea time though!

Hmm, maybe I'll try just one nap for a while. Thank you :)

Book your sleep consultant said something about dropping down to one nap if I remember correctly though but I can't quite remember what it was.

MrsG it may be upthread if you wanted to have a look back. Can't remember when it was though, and whether it was this thread or the last one. Not much help sorry!

I've just ordered some lovely fabric to make something for S so craft club is ON!!! God knows what I'll make though. Dresses are a no-go due to crawling, unfortunately.

Yeah nature, although it seems to vary a lot from baby to baby. She basically said that around 10-12 months they think they only need one nap and start to refuse the other one, but they are wrong and you should power through the phase as they will re-adopt two naps until roughly 15 months. That hasn't been the case for lots of people here though. Some nurseries move babies into a toddler room at 1 year old, and so they have to move to one nap to match the other children apparently. P did have a difficult few weeks where she refused her second nap completely and I had to drive around for an hour at 2 every day () but she is back to two naps now and the second is getting longer than before so I'm happy to stick with two for now.

We managed to get up to see Mum today, and they were both thrilled to bits about it, so that was lovely.

I'm happy for it to be a general craft club, but I imagine a lot of mine will be sewing. I can entertain you with the hideous tat we have to make at PND craft sessions though. Honestly, it is shocking!

Ooh yes I'd love to see the pnd craft tat! Glad you got to see your Mum too I am at the dropping nap thing. S hasn't had a second nap for over 3 months now. Maybe I should have persevered with trying to get her to sleep in the afternoon.

I have set up the crafting Facebook group... All welcome. If you search for 'Make it Sew' is should come up as a closed group (with an artists palette icon next to it). Alternatively me or felix can add you if you are friends with us on Facebook.
Any problems let me know. Please share PND crafting tat and anything else you feel like adding

We are on a weird mix of one or two naps a day. I thought E had moved to one, but her childminder is determined she should have two so then that mixes it up. I generally put her down between 10 and 11 and see how long she sleeps for. If it's short I try again in the afternoon. Sometimes she just spends half hour playing in her cot but I figure at least I try.

Today is my last day as a SAHM for 8 months..... Feel sad. Feel like I should be doing something but am watching Jerseylicious. Feel like this is probably why I should go back to work...

I might have found the group, is the cover picture rolled wool and a box of woll saying 'nailed it'?

I'm sat by Ls cot soothing her back to sleep for the 6th time since 7pm. For two nights she slept well-ish. but the last two and tonight have been really bad. Going to persevere until the 20th hopefully, but if it doesn't get better I might go mad. I have no idea what I'm going to do about naps!

MrsG sympathies.

We seem to have ended up in the habit of picking O up if she wakes in the night (she used to just settle herself back to sleep) but I think she was worked this out, and once she has woken we couldn't get her back in her cot as she would just cry again. So mean mummy came out last night. I picked her up once or twice last night but refused to let her fall back to sleep on me, I'd let her stand up and I'd give her a cuddle but her feet had to stay in the cot, and then I'd lie her down and keep my hand on her, took me and Dh two hours to get her back to sleep, but the perseverance paid off and she slept through till 7.30 and was the happiest baby this morning. So hopefully she might get the message that there will be no more nighttime cuddles and she has to go back to sleep in her cot. If she cries we will go into her, and help soothe her but she has to fall back asleep in her cot.

Sounds really harsh but we were with her the entire time last night, and will always go to her if she cries, but it's just somehow become a habit to fall asleep on us and I want to break that (I think it started as she was ill and teething!). Also hoping it will help the MIL on Monday night.

I will be joining the craft group, can't knit, sew or crochet but I enjoy papercrafting and I do fancy taking up more crafts so it might inspire me!

MrsG re naps we still usually have a morning one as he gets tired by around 10:30, depending on how long that one is he may have an afternoon one. Although Dh lets him nap as late as 5pm which means bedtime can be interesting to say the least! Grrr... I left A bouncing in his cot at 7:50 last night, he wasn't crying more grumbling, and after 10 mins he laid down and went to sleep, thank goodness.

Sunshine enjoy your last day, going back will be tough but I'm sure you are doing what's best for your family from what you've described.

Book glad you got to see your mum, I've found A has made such a difference to mum's life as she is on her own now and her only other grandchild is 17.

We have a child-free few hours tomorrow afternoon, although we are too skint to do anything fancy, hope this will drop Dh the hint about stepping up the job hunt! Cousin's daughter's Christening on Sunday which is a good excuse to dress A up in the nice shirt he got for his birthday

Home time for me, happy weekend everyone!

I'd like to join the craft group too, please. I started knitting when I was pregnant - I'm a complete beginner - and managed to knit a pair of booties (which I forgot about, so H never got to wear them . I then started a hat, but haven't finished it. You lot might give me the kick up the backside to get it done. Oh, and also help me with how to do the purl stitch. It kept coming out upside down?!

It's good to hear some of you still have morning naps. This is when H sleeps best, and usually never naps in the afternoon at all. Everyone keeps telling me how the morning nap is dropped first and the afternoon one gets longer, but I can't see this happening soon. It does mean that I seem to miss out on lots of groups though, as most of them are in the morning near me. Anyone else find this?

Well done, nature on getting O to go back to sleep herself. Our sleep training was going really well until teething and being unwell too hold, and I'm back to bfing to sleep again. I must admit, I'm a little envious that you've stopped bfing too. I'm sure O will be absolutely fine with your MIL - they seem to know who they can play and who they can't!

Arrrg I'm so pleased we are only having two! Currently we are looking after my brothers three boys. They (db and dsil) drive do the boys have never walked more than 15 mins before. They whined the whole walk to Tesco, then to soft play. 40 mins tops. I say they, but the eldest almost four year old. Flip me it's exhausting!

Also, all three are usually in bed for six, but that's wicked early for us (Henry is 6.30/7, Ds1 is 7-7.30) so they are hungry for tea now, but my boys aren't. So it's a lot of fun

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I haven't been on these threads for months cause im rubbish at keeping up!

Have joined Make it sew though won't be starting anything for the next week or two so will spend every breastfeeding session til then planning my craft via Pinterest :)

million I can't believe their 4 yr old goes down for 6! What time does he wake?

Dd falls asleep somewhere between 8 and 11pm and wakes up between 7.30 and 9. ( her nap depends on how much effort I've put in to tire her out by lunchtime!)

Can't remember who said about tantrums but dd's def showing signs of frustrations. V detetmined though! We have been teaching some sign language and she can communicate most needs pretty well but I'm going to have to up my game! Anyone else tried it? I highly recommend it.

Morning! Early, innit? This 5am waking is for the birds.

million, you're a legend. I don't get involved with other peoples' children if I can help it!

Re naps: M still has 2 most days. Although yesterday she only had about 45 minutes all day.

Yesterday we went to Brighton. We had a lovely day, and M was delightful. We went on the train because the drive home from Brighton ALWAYS makes me knackered, for some reason, and I didn't fancy falling asleep at the wheel! Plus parking in Brighton costs a crazy amount now.
We had the best burger I've ever eaten in my life, and finally found an eternity ring. So all in all a good day :)

We're going out for breakfast later, then visiting my mum and then MIL. Busy one for us. Have lovely days, all. And happy Valentine's day!

Blue, we go to a signing class every week. M is really starting to pick it up now.

Well they were all awake by 6.15. But being fair, the 4year old didn't want to be. The other two woke him up.

I'm bloody shattered! Was up five times to give dn(2.5) his dummy back. Why he couldn't just do it himself I'll never know. Then Henry woke up and wanted a quick cuddle. I'm so flipping happy their folks are coming to get them about 6.

Our main activity today is making pizzas. I'm about to do the dough, then they can out their own toppings on. And voilà, lunch!

toby my "local one is the other side of the city at 10am meaning I would need to drive through when it's really busy so I haven't joined one yet. Just been learning a few at home. Might try their free trial one though. See how do-able it is.

Welcome back blue!

Million I don't know how you've managed it I can only just cope with one.

Toby you went to Meat Liquor didn't you? They have just opened one in Leeds and I'm desperate to go.

S is still off her food since having the MMR, and also has a bit of a rash. And she keeps doing runny white explosive shits!! It's horrendous. We are going to my nephews christening tomorrow down in Stoke and I hope she's not still doing runny poos

It's been fine, a few hairy moments, but ok. Although we've had some comments! I did a thread about it. I'm a little hmm for people implying I'm making stuff up, but I'll get over it.

The pizza making went well, they loved it and ate their food. I cant wait for them to go home though, I'm shattered